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Any way Supernus frames it this is far from what they led us to believe. For years they spoke of Qelbree as the second coming.

This product is terrible. If it does work it isn’t tolerated. If a patient doesn’t experience severe sedation they are experiencing hypomania. Not too mention we have no dosage response in our data.

Gary, we are selling a bag of shit and you just made it worse with this bonus plan. The product hasn’t even been out for a year and you are already cutting bonus! Come on man.
 






anonymous said:
Any way Supernus frames it this is far from what they led us to believe. For years they spoke of Qelbree as the second coming.

This product is terrible. If it does work it isn’t tolerated. If a patient doesn’t experience severe sedation they are experiencing hypomania. Not too mention we have no dosage response in our data.

Gary, we are selling a bag of shit and you just made it worse with this bonus plan. The product hasn’t even been out for a year and you are already cutting bonus! Come on man.
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I wish I could disagree with any of this
 












anonymous said:
Any way Supernus frames it this is far from what they led us to believe. For years they spoke of Qelbree as the second coming.

This product is terrible. If it does work it isn’t tolerated. If a patient doesn’t experience severe sedation they are experiencing hypomania. Not too mention we have no dosage response in our data.

Gary, we are selling a bag of shit and you just made it worse with this bonus plan. The product hasn’t even been out for a year and you are already cutting bonus! Come on man.
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This kind of exaggeration makes you no better than the people you are criticizing.

Were we oversold on Qelbree’s potential? Yes. No qualms here.

Is the product terrible? No. A lot of kids are doing really well on it while avoiding the more serious AE’s of stimulants.

Does the data show dosage response? No. Neither does almost every other ADHD med.

Is the bonus plan crap? Kinda. The select few with 1-3 docs blowing up will get paid well. The rest will make less while grinding for scripts.
 






anonymous said:
This kind of exaggeration makes you no better than the people you are criticizing.

Were we oversold on Qelbree’s potential? Yes. No qualms here.

Is the product terrible? No. A lot of kids are doing really well on it while avoiding the more serious AE’s of stimulants.

Does the data show dosage response? No. Neither does almost every other ADHD med.

Is the bonus plan crap? Kinda. The select few with 1-3 docs blowing up will get paid well. The rest will make less while grinding for scripts.
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You said nothing different than first poster. Ok a handful of kids are doing well on Qelbree so what. We were literally told docs would write this product all day every day. They will soon start blaming the reps. We have been down this road before.
 






Did the market need another NS? My HCP’s just want to treat a condition the most effective way. Q unfortunately is not that treatment for the majority with this condition. The best SSP/POA will not change that fact. Either will GC negative comments about regions that can’t sell.
 
























anonymous said:
Stop what? Drinking the Kool aid?
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Have you all worked anywhere else in this industry? Or have you even read the other boards on this site? Relatively speaking, this is a pretty decent gig. Of course there is micromanaging, and bonus payouts can be disappointing, but where is that not the case? As someone who has moved from company to company over the past couple decades, the grass is always greener elsewhere...until you've been there. I read somewhere that the common element in every one of your dysfunctional relationships is YOU. That applies to your career as well. I don't love my job, but I've finally learned to just do it to the best of my ability and enjoy other aspects of my life. Since I've adopted this perspective, I actually find myself being happier here. Sure, Qelbree might not be the blockbuster we thought it would be, but for god's sake, the company is allowing you to GIVE IT AWAY! At least do THAT well! We've also got a nice franchise in PD with therapies that have a profound impact on patients' lives. That's something to feel good about. If you're reading this, you're probably making close to 200k or more with bonus. Not bad for someone with a bachelor's degree and no real skills or experience that qualify you to do anything else. On the flip side, you could drop a years' salary into business school and maybe become a stock broker. Talk about exciting.
 






the animal is a lion said:
Have you all worked anywhere else in this industry? Or have you even read the other boards on this site? Relatively speaking, this is a pretty decent gig. Of course there is micromanaging, and bonus payouts can be disappointing, but where is that not the case? As someone who has moved from company to company over the past couple decades, the grass is always greener elsewhere...until you've been there. I read somewhere that the common element in every one of your dysfunctional relationships is YOU. That applies to your career as well. I don't love my job, but I've finally learned to just do it to the best of my ability and enjoy other aspects of my life. Since I've adopted this perspective, I actually find myself being happier here. Sure, Qelbree might not be the blockbuster we thought it would be, but for god's sake, the company is allowing you to GIVE IT AWAY! At least do THAT well! We've also got a nice franchise in PD with therapies that have a profound impact on patients' lives. That's something to feel good about. If you're reading this, you're probably making close to 200k or more with bonus. Not bad for someone with a bachelor's degree and no real skills or experience that qualify you to do anything else. On the flip side, you could drop a years' salary into business school and maybe become a stock broker. Talk about exciting.
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what rep is making $200K?! Hahahahaaaaaa no one and IF anyone is it’s like 1-2 reps out of 190 reps. Please…. Everyone is making less money than ever and this new bonus plan does suck.
 
























the animal is a lion said:
Have you all worked anywhere else in this industry? Or have you even read the other boards on this site? Relatively speaking, this is a pretty decent gig. Of course there is micromanaging, and bonus payouts can be disappointing, but where is that not the case? As someone who has moved from company to company over the past couple decades, the grass is always greener elsewhere...until you've been there. I read somewhere that the common element in every one of your dysfunctional relationships is YOU. That applies to your career as well. I don't love my job, but I've finally learned to just do it to the best of my ability and enjoy other aspects of my life. Since I've adopted this perspective, I actually find myself being happier here. Sure, Qelbree might not be the blockbuster we thought it would be, but for god's sake, the company is allowing you to GIVE IT AWAY! At least do THAT well! We've also got a nice franchise in PD with therapies that have a profound impact on patients' lives. That's something to feel good about. If you're reading this, you're probably making close to 200k or more with bonus. Not bad for someone with a bachelor's degree and no real skills or experience that qualify you to do anything else. On the flip side, you could drop a years' salary into business school and maybe become a stock broker. Talk about exciting.
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LOL you’re clearly from the Parkinson’s Division claiming to have been at multiple other companies and now making anywhere even close to $200k or more with bonus at Supernus. Sorry but you have not been with Supernus long enough to have an opinion on our division. You are also clearly paid much more appropriately and better than us over here in ADHD.

I do agree with just doing the job at hand to the best of your ability
 






the animal is a lion said:
Have you all worked anywhere else in this industry? Or have you even read the other boards on this site? Relatively speaking, this is a pretty decent gig. Of course there is micromanaging, and bonus payouts can be disappointing, but where is that not the case? As someone who has moved from company to company over the past couple decades, the grass is always greener elsewhere...until you've been there. I read somewhere that the common element in every one of your dysfunctional relationships is YOU. That applies to your career as well. I don't love my job, but I've finally learned to just do it to the best of my ability and enjoy other aspects of my life. Since I've adopted this perspective, I actually find myself being happier here. Sure, Qelbree might not be the blockbuster we thought it would be, but for god's sake, the company is allowing you to GIVE IT AWAY! At least do THAT well! We've also got a nice franchise in PD with therapies that have a profound impact on patients' lives. That's something to feel good about. If you're reading this, you're probably making close to 200k or more with bonus. Not bad for someone with a bachelor's degree and no real skills or experience that qualify you to do anything else. On the flip side, you could drop a years' salary into business school and maybe become a stock broker. Talk about exciting.
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You better start producing over in PD.
 






anonymous said:
You better start producing over in PD.
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Let’s not play the petty division vs division game. If you’re so jealous, tell your RD you want to move over to PD so you can get paid more to work a territory twice the size of your current one in a disease state you know nothing about and deal with buy/bill dynamics.
 






anonymous said:
Let’s not play the petty division vs division game. If you’re so jealous, tell your RD you want to move over to PD so you can get paid more to work a territory twice the size of your current one in a disease state you know nothing about and deal with buy/bill dynamics.
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I could sell circles around any rep in the PD division. That’s all that matters chief.
 


















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