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Time to shut down NIBR

Re: Time to go F yourself

Please stop drinking before noon and never, never post after you've had more than two- its just sad and makes you seem way, way dumber than probably are, which unfortunately is still pretty dumb.

Nice comeback (not), but fact is you still are not producing useful results. Get back to the lab and produce. Or you'll fire yourself. And the rest of us.
 




Re: Time to go F yourself

Please stop drinking before noon and never, never post after you've had more than two- its just sad and makes you seem way, way dumber than probably are, which unfortunately is still pretty dumb.

NIBR Researcher channels Pee Wee Herman, "I know you are but what am I?" Did you study science because you are socially inept? I think that your remarks show why they won't let you out of the lab or attend conferences with people who don't wear pocket protectors! Believe me when I say that unless you can do something for which they award you the Nobel Prize then you have already topped out or are at close to, say 30%, of your maximum lifetime yearly earning potential.
 




WOW! this sure is touching a nerve....

After the OTC debacle, I guess we need those new molecules! Can someone lie a little bit faster about the positive results... Oh no..that was at GSK....
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

So the reality is the stupid one is you. Better said, the sad pathetic one is you. I'm sorry that Big Daddy novartis doesn't have a neuscience drug that you can sell (off label) as effectively as you sold tregretol and trileptal - the reality of the situation is you (sales rep) are now irrelevant. I'm sorry to have to tell you this on CP I wish there were another way. I really liked FN with you on this post, but soon, VERY soon, you'll be living your car with no wifi, no Internet and no way to continue your abuse of the researchers that will save this company from abject ruin. Unfortunately it will be too late for you. Bt maybe ... Just may be ... Sometime in the future you'll be able to wash off just enough of the stench and slime of the real you that you'll find fulfilling work back in sales ... Would you like to biggie size that? (time to go F yourself!)

You can spew all the negativity you want......won't matter because if YOU and your NIBR lackees don't start producing marketable, decent-sized commercial opportunities, we are all going down. Your vision is so short-sighted that there does not exist corrective eye wear for you. Sad to think that our most elite thinkers are actually SO STUPID. Really sad. You don't realize it, but it is you that is doing the fucking.....of all of us.

When will you wake up out of the fog you are in and realize if you don't REALLY deliver, we all lose?

What you should be saying is "we realize productivity of commercializable NCE's is not where it needs to be and within NIBR, we are looking for ways to improve that output." No, you don't say that, continue blaming the wait staff when the problem is that the cook's SUCK! You need a good slap in the face to wake the fuck up.
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

You can spew all the negativity you want......won't matter because if YOU and your NIBR lackees don't start producing marketable, decent-sized commercial opportunities, we are all going down. Your vision is so short-sighted that there does not exist corrective eye wear for you. Sad to think that our most elite thinkers are actually SO STUPID. Really sad. You don't realize it, but it is you that is doing the fucking.....of all of us.

When will you wake up out of the fog you are in and realize if you don't REALLY deliver, we all lose?

What you should be saying is "we realize productivity of commercializable NCE's is not where it needs to be and within NIBR, we are looking for ways to improve that output." No, you don't say that, continue blaming the wait staff when the problem is that the cook's SUCK! You need a good slap in the face to wake the fuck up.

Well said.....
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

You can spew all the negativity you want......won't matter because if YOU and your NIBR lackees don't start producing marketable, decent-sized commercial opportunities, we are all going down. Your vision is so short-sighted that there does not exist corrective eye wear for you. Sad to think that our most elite thinkers are actually SO STUPID. Really sad. You don't realize it, but it is you that is doing the fucking.....of all of us.

When will you wake up out of the fog you are in and realize if you don't REALLY deliver, we all lose?

What you should be saying is "we realize productivity of commercializable NCE's is not where it needs to be and within NIBR, we are looking for ways to improve that output." No, you don't say that, continue blaming the wait staff when the problem is that the cook's SUCK! You need a good slap in the face to wake the fuck up.

Tempe, temper You FN dummy, I said it before and its still true (but you apparently can't handle the truth) research takes time and money ... And-We'll have to fire all the sales reps (especially you) before the next NME is available ... Sorry.

So long sucka, not going to miss you! Bah-Bye!

And please Go F yourself!
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

Tempe, temper You FN dummy, I said it before and its still true (but you apparently can't handle the truth) research takes time and money ... And-We'll have to fire all the sales reps (especially you) before the next NME is available ... Sorry.

So long sucka, not going to miss you! Bah-Bye!

And please Go F yourself!

I'm not a rep or in sales. I'm not a dummy, and can handle more truth in a day than you have in your entire pathetic and apparently naive life. I'm in R&D you moron. Not in NIBR, but I'm not stupid enough to think money can just be spent without accountability. I'll be here long after YOU are gone. I've seen your type come and go many times.

Thanks for at least saying "please," but that won't help when you are begging to keep your job when the cuts begin (and they will). Your poor attitude (so clearly obvious from your tone) must come accross in droves in your work. The closest you will ever come to actually bringing a successful NME forward is writing about it here on CP.

You have a lot of nerve telling someone to go F themselves, hiding like a coward behind the anonymity of CP. You're a big man here on these boards, aren't you? Reality is, you are a little man....a man child who has made no material contribution. I know your type. Full of yourself and nothing but a drag to whatever initiative you are part of.

I understand this game can only end in a draw, but all those reading this are saying "what a jacka$$ this NIBR guy is." You epitomize everything wrong with NIBR. We are running a business here, not a blue-sky research initiative for you to fail at for 20 years.

All you can do is reply with more derogatory remarks....that is the only weapon in your feeble arsenal. I await your confirmation.
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

I'm not a rep or in sales. I'm not a dummy, and can handle more truth in a day than you have in your entire pathetic and apparently naive life. I'm in R&D you moron. Not in NIBR, but I'm not stupid enough to think money can just be spent without accountability. I'll be here long after YOU are gone. I've seen your type come and go many times.

Thanks for at least saying "please," but that won't help when you are begging to keep your job when the cuts begin (and they will). Your poor attitude (so clearly obvious from your tone) must come accross in droves in your work. The closest you will ever come to actually bringing a successful NME forward is writing about it here on CP.

You have a lot of nerve telling someone to go F themselves, hiding like a coward behind the anonymity of CP. You're a big man here on these boards, aren't you? Reality is, you are a little man....a man child who has made no material contribution. I know your type. Full of yourself and nothing but a drag to whatever initiative you are part of.

I understand this game can only end in a draw, but all those reading this are saying "what a jacka$$ this NIBR guy is." You epitomize everything wrong with NIBR. We are running a business here, not a blue-sky research initiative for you to fail at for 20 years.

All you can do is reply with more derogatory remarks....that is the only weapon in your feeble arsenal. I await your confirmation.

Pretty brutal anal drill job!
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

I'm not a rep or in sales. I'm not a dummy, and can handle more truth in a day than you have in your entire pathetic and apparently naive life. I'm in R&D you moron. Not in NIBR, but I'm not stupid enough to think money can just be spent without accountability. I'll be here long after YOU are gone. I've seen your type come and go many times.

Thanks for at least saying "please," but that won't help when you are begging to keep your job when the cuts begin (and they will). Your poor attitude (so clearly obvious from your tone) must come accross in droves in your work. The closest you will ever come to actually bringing a successful NME forward is writing about it here on CP.

You have a lot of nerve telling someone to go F themselves, hiding like a coward behind the anonymity of CP. You're a big man here on these boards, aren't you? Reality is, you are a little man....a man child who has made no material contribution. I know your type. Full of yourself and nothing but a drag to whatever initiative you are part of.

I understand this game can only end in a draw, but all those reading this are saying "what a jacka$$ this NIBR guy is." You epitomize everything wrong with NIBR. We are running a business here, not a blue-sky research initiative for you to fail at for 20 years.

All you can do is reply with more derogatory remarks....that is the only weapon in your feeble arsenal. I await your confirmation.
Look NIBR is overstaffed and full of wannabe academics who failed at university work. Mark Fishmann is ruining Novartis and somehow got his puppet Tim Wrong at the top. This is why Novartis wont reach 70 and will languish in the 50s until Tim is gone and Mark retires. NIBR should just shut down. Industry trend is to bring in molecules from the outside. What has NIBR produced in the past 5 years?

Nada

They get 1.5 multiplier each year for no delievering anything of value to the company

1.5 each year

They work banker hours and have no accountabilities.

Mar and TIm need to go
 




what we have discovered this far: NIBR will not produce anything because it neither has a culture and nor does it have a soul. The blind leading the blind. Creativity does not flourish in an environment of fear and intimidation. Right now, the shop is in transition to China - the first step towards shutdown. NIBR leadership keeps milking the co until the cow is dry and will jump ship sooner or later. Until then: BS, best in class, BS, BS ...

Novartis isn't the only one with nothing in the pipeline. Look at how many blockbusters went off patent with nothing to replace them except extended release formulations.

As to why we have an alliance with Chine is baffling. They poisoned our pets and their own babies with the attitude that the end justifies the means. Then they execute the man at the top. Would you put something in your body knowing the active or excipients were outsourced to China? I sure as hell wouldn't.
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

Look NIBR is overstaffed and full of wannabe academics who failed at university work. Mark Fishmann is ruining Novartis and somehow got his puppet Tim Wrong at the top. This is why Novartis wont reach 70 and will languish in the 50s until Tim is gone and Mark retires. NIBR should just shut down. Industry trend is to bring in molecules from the outside. What has NIBR produced in the past 5 years?

Nada

They get 1.5 multiplier each year for no delievering anything of value to the company

1.5 each year

They work banker hours and have no accountabilities.

Mar and TIm need to go
If you don't have the stomach for working in human pharmaceuticals please take your STUPID MBA and go work for some bank, learn english, and go F youself ... not necessarily in that order.
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

I'm not a rep or in sales. I'm not a dummy, and can handle more truth in a day than you have in your entire pathetic and apparently naive life. I'm in R&D you moron. Not in NIBR, but I'm not stupid enough to think money can just be spent without accountability. I'll be here long after YOU are gone. I've seen your type come and go many times.

Thanks for at least saying "please," but that won't help when you are begging to keep your job when the cuts begin (and they will). Your poor attitude (so clearly obvious from your tone) must come accross in droves in your work. The closest you will ever come to actually bringing a successful NME forward is writing about it here on CP.

You have a lot of nerve telling someone to go F themselves, hiding like a coward behind the anonymity of CP. You're a big man here on these boards, aren't you? Reality is, you are a little man....a man child who has made no material contribution. I know your type. Full of yourself and nothing but a drag to whatever initiative you are part of.

I understand this game can only end in a draw, but all those reading this are saying "what a jacka$$ this NIBR guy is." You epitomize everything wrong with NIBR. We are running a business here, not a blue-sky research initiative for you to fail at for 20 years.

All you can do is reply with more derogatory remarks....that is the only weapon in your feeble arsenal. I await your confirmation.

You don't work in R&D, you are the same dope that was telling lies about interviewing for a leadership role in NIBR and making hollow promises that you were going to fire me after you were hired. For the record you are an FN dummy, and in sales, 'cause only some stupid rep ( or want to be MBA) would make such a pathetic attempt to pretend you're a researcher... role play much, you FN dope? And also or the record you epitomize what's wrong with the pharmaceutial business - you can't schedule the next block buster, these things don't jump out of a test tube, slap you on the butt and say " we're here!"... It takes time patience, intellect and understanding to find them ... All you stupid reps may have to be fired before I discover the next big thing ... My apologies.

... Go F yourself!
 








Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

You don't work in R&D, you are the same dope that was telling lies about interviewing for a leadership role in NIBR and making hollow promises that you were going to fire me after you were hired. For the record you are an FN dummy, and in sales, 'cause only some stupid rep ( or want to be MBA) would make such a pathetic attempt to pretend you're a researcher... role play much, you FN dope? And also or the record you epitomize what's wrong with the pharmaceutial business - you can't schedule the next block buster, these things don't jump out of a test tube, slap you on the butt and say " we're here!"... It takes time patience, intellect and understanding to find them ... All you stupid reps may have to be fired before I discover the next big thing ... My apologies.

... Go F yourself!

I knew I could count on your confirmation.
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

WORLD'S BIGGEST ASSHOLE said:
You don't work in R&D, you are the same dope that was telling lies about interviewing for a leadership role in NIBR and making hollow promises that you were going to fire me after you were hired. For the record you are an FN dummy, and in sales, 'cause only some stupid rep ( or want to be MBA) would make such a pathetic attempt to pretend you're a researcher... role play much, you FN dope? And also or the record you epitomize what's wrong with the pharmaceutial business - you can't schedule the next block buster, these things don't jump out of a test tube, slap you on the butt and say " we're here!"... It takes time patience, intellect and understanding to find them ... All you stupid reps may have to be fired before I discover the next big thing ... My apologies.

... Go F yourself!

Do you realize what a jackass you are?
 
















Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

Why are you such a DICK?

The original title for this post was "time to shut down NIBR" and you wonder why I'm little hostile towards you and the rest of the business elite? How about you guys moving market share on FANAPT, FINGOLIMOD, and EXTAVIA..... Hmmmmm? Who else do you want to blame or your failures?
 




Re: Time to go F yourself!!!!!

The original title for this post was "time to shut down NIBR" and you wonder why I'm little hostile towards you and the rest of the business elite? How about you guys moving market share on FANAPT, FINGOLIMOD, and EXTAVIA..... Hmmmmm? Who else do you want to blame or your failures?

Whoever you are, there is no doubt that Commercial needs to hold up their end of the bargain. But your position that, essentially, we need to be patient and just keep spending HUGE amounts of money on R&D with low output is an unsustainable model.

Your logic that "it is not time to shut down NIBR, it is Commercial's fault for not maximizing the assets it has" is a poor excuse. If the thread is about NIBR not producing, attack the accusation head on (which you have not done once, and for good reason....there is nothing you can say). Deflecting it into someone else's fault is shallow and weak. It's not someone else's fault NIBR's output is poor. It's not Commercial's fault, that is for sure. If you don't like Commercial's output, make a thread about that. This thread is about NIBR.

And by the way, I am in R&D. I'm not an MBA type, not a rep. I know what I'm talking about and you are wrong. I'm surprised the real Commercial people here haven't crucified you.