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you forgot the final steps.....fire rep and manager....Repeat....
Around 5 years ago, someone pulled back the curtain and showed how the scam actually worked on Cafepharma it was quickly removed by Pete and Assoc. A true and well written piece. . The whole Inverness story and Polymedco included. They are actually a distributer no more-no less.
You have to recognize that severe mental illness is rampant in ownership and the 3 managers that stay when there is no one to manage. This occurs every 4-6 months.
Hire, fire, ruin lives, rinse repeat. Just like shampoo. I feel quite confident these fools will burn at the stake in due time. Evil people the whole lot of them. Hey Pete! Blow Me
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Around 5 years ago, someone pulled back the curtain and showed how the scam actually worked on Cafepharma it was quickly removed by Pete and Assoc. A true and well written piece. . The whole Inverness story and Polymedco included. They are actually a distributer no more-no less.
You have to recognize that severe mental illness is rampant in ownership and the 3 managers that stay when there is no one to manage. This occurs every 4-6 months.
Hire, fire, ruin lives, rinse repeat. Just like shampoo. I feel quite confident these fools will burn at the stake in due time. Evil people the whole lot of them. Hey Pete! Blow Me
He will gladly send Arron S to blow you
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If Kaiser or the VA knew about the things that went on in Polymedco, they would drop their account quick. It is the worst company. Aaron. is possibly the worst manager in the entire industry. He could care less about people. He just cares about how much he can talk. He doesn't ever shut up. He goes on and on about nothing.
At some point, they will look at what Aaron has done with the sales team since he has taken over. Someone will look at numbers. Accounts will start calling polymedco out on their lack of customer service.
I am almost out of here ... thank god.
At some point, they will look at what Aaron has done with the sales team since he has taken over. Someone will look at numbers. Accounts will start calling polymedco out on their lack of customer service.
I am almost out of here ... thank god.
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This could be arranged at a high level directional approach. You need to do more intel before a proforma could be implemented and action to be taken to make a difference. This company has been ran with same unproven processes for many years. Changes need to be made at the C-Level to secure the future of this distribution company.
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What is the current tally of people left with Aaron. I am guessing probably only the same few. How has Silver explained his poor management results? Blame others?
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Jackass is as jackass does. Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gonna get in the Poly world. Things are moving faster than this company can imagine in the small space they play in. The day of reckoning is coming for this organization.
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Jackass is as jackass does. Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gonna get in the Poly world. Things are moving faster than this company can imagine in the small space they play in. The day of reckoning is coming for this organization.
It's been about 10 years too long already. Why now?
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Still a joke ...how many are left? Is silver still running the company to the ground?
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somebody out there has to have the inside skinny on who is left there. any regionals? reps?
maybe some ex reps should reach out to their old accounts and let them know what scumbags these guys are! That would kick pete and AS in the ASS!
maybe some ex reps should reach out to their old accounts and let them know what scumbags these guys are! That would kick pete and AS in the ASS!
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His name is Aaron Silver
His name is Aaron Silver
His name is Aaron Silver
If you're interviewing for a position with this guy run, don't walk, run! Throughout my career there have been good managers and bad alike. AS reaches a whole new dimension of bad. Don't expect anything better to eat than Applebee's for training and a Holiday Inn on your $35 per diem.
His name is Aaron Silver
His name is Aaron Silver
If you're interviewing for a position with this guy run, don't walk, run! Throughout my career there have been good managers and bad alike. AS reaches a whole new dimension of bad. Don't expect anything better to eat than Applebee's for training and a Holiday Inn on your $35 per diem.
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His name is Aaron Silver
His name is Aaron Silver
His name is Aaron Silver
If you're interviewing for a position with this guy run, don't walk, run! Throughout my career there have been good managers and bad alike. AS reaches a whole new dimension of bad. Don't expect anything better to eat than Applebee's for training and a Holiday Inn on your $35 per diem.
I have been around my share of scumbags and mentally ill in this fucked up industry. But this cat and the whole group were one weird experience from day one. If you want to turn your world upside down and then ruin a career. Start here.
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Agree. Silver is a tool. Worst so called manager in the industry. He averages about 20 typos per "Memo."
He can talk non stop about nothing for hours.
Run from this company. Poor HR, they have no power to do anything
He can talk non stop about nothing for hours.
Run from this company. Poor HR, they have no power to do anything
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Bear with me and my long post. I agree almost entirely with these posts, however I will try to give as honest a review of my experience with Polymedco as I can. I was bored and somehow stumbled upon CP.
If you legitimately are looking to break into the medical sales industry I would look elsewhere. This isn't a job you're going to want for much more than 6-8 months, assuming you stick around that long. To me it was a glorified pharma job and not coming from that background I'm not sure I would have stuck with it even if the company and products were truly solid. Before accepting a job with Polymedco, I was a medical device representative for an orthopedic company with 3 years experience. You might ask why I decided to pursue an opportunity with Polymedco? Most importantly, I was trying to move across the country for not only a change of scenery, but to move to the city where my girlfriend (now fiancé) had relocated some 5 months before. Secondly, I was a 1099 employee, like many in orthopedics are, and was actively considering new opportunities. The job posting I saw looked enticing so I applied. I pursued a number of Ortho device jobs with no success. At the time, trying to relocate within the orthopedic community proved difficult so I took a look at the position with Polymedco via medreps.com. I went into it with an open mind so to speak. I was contacted by Jason, who apparently was in charge of qualifying candidates. After multiple phone interviews with Jason, Pete (VP), Aaron and Vince, I interviewed with Vince in person, who was a regional manager at the time. The interview process lasted damn near a month and because I was moving I had to pay for my own travel for multiple interviews and had to make up multiple excuses with my current employer to get away. They even had me travel to Florida for a ride along with a rep and to interview with Aaron and Pete in person. I swallowed the fact that I was irritated considering I was relocating and that this was just part of the deal. Overall, it was a very stressful experience that in retrospect I never should have gotten started with. I was eventually offered the job and received an offer letter that listed compensation as something completely different than the job posting and what had been discussed with Vince and company. I questioned them on it and of course they had an explanation for it, but at the time it was an offer that I could make work. My biggest goal was to get to my new city and after a long job search and interview process I decided to accept. I got the feeling that they would pull the offer if I objected. No doubt they would have.
Training was a month long. One week in Texas with Vince, two weeks in New York with Aaron and Tom, and one more week in Chicago with Jay and the others. I found some parts of the sales training to be useful, but so much of it was scripted and there was no changing or modifying the script. Their way or the highway. I swear at least half the training time was each of the managers going on about the same old crap. Unfortunately, I believed just about all of it because I had yet to be in the field and see what things were like for myself. Pete would come in 2-3 times a day and ramble on about God knows what. The organization was a mess. No one stayed on schedule and you got the feeling that the reps ultimately were going to be expendable. A lot of going through the motions.
In the field, I absolutely agree with previous posts regarding the products. The OC-Light and OC-Auto products were solid, but OC-Light was a lot of leg work for not much if any payback. By the time I was hired, there were many competitors in the market with cheaper tests distributed by the Cardinals of the world. In later trainings, they geared back on the product line because I think they realized that they had made the money they were gonna make on it and quite frankly they didn't seem thrilled to pay commissions. Yes a sales job where that's an issue. Not ideal. OC-Auto was definitely the money maker and the sales pitch on paper was seemingly solid. The problem was the length of the sales process and in my territory the business that was already present. I realized very soon that there was no way I could be financially successful within the first year and a half and thus led me to consider looking for a new job. I think the managers model was to have the reps do the grunt work, qualify the opportunities, get the sales process started, fire the rep or piss them off into leaving, come in and potentially close the account. Good luck keeping a salesperson with half a brain. As for the ESR line, well it was an insult to train me and the others repeatedly on selling something that outdated, and then expect to pay the reps next to no commission for it. It was a joke. Tom was the manager for it at the time. Absolutely had to be impossible to be enthusiastic about it, but what Pete says, Pete gets I guess.
Eventually, after all the trainings, all the ride alongs, all the false promises, all the travel, I got a call from a recruiter at a large orthopedic company that was very similar to my previous job experience. It was more pay, better benefits, far less travel, and a legit company. I was out of the Polymedco mess in 7 months. I wasn't fired, but there's no doubt I would have been within a couple of months. The turnover should have been an indicator early on, but as I said I had much to open of a mind.
Overall, the employees at home base in Cortlandt Manor were fine. John Milazzo was a peach. Anyone that has worked there knows what I'm talking about. Vince seemed like he was a decent guy, just scatterbrained and dishonest from time to time. Extremely scripted and unenthusiastic when in the field with him. I don't really blame him. The managers had new titles and responsibilities monthly if not weekly. I didn't work with Aaron much, but overall he seemed ok. Talked way too much. All of them did. Tom seemed like he needed to have a new job 10 years ago. Not sure what he's doing working with his brother and nephew. Dysfunctional at best. Jay seemed reasonable, but never got to work with him as much as I would have liked. Pete and John Goodman should have retired long ago and drove off into the sunset in their Maserati's and let someone new outside of the old boys club to run the show. I think they just like the idea of brainwashing young, successful, hungry salespeople and then break them down because they'll never have the success they've had. Something like that. I honestly don't know what else to say about them.
The only enjoyable thing was the training and interaction with my fellow sales team members. Overall, everyone was great. Perhaps we all sensed what we were getting into and just found a way to get along and still enjoy some things about it. I'm pretty certain there's only a handful or so guys left out of the 15 or so that were there when I was there. For them, I wish nothing but the best. Good luck with that.
Overall, I learned a lot from my experience. Surprisingly, I'm glad it happened. It showed me exactly what I don't want in a job for myself. It got me to the city my girlfriend (and older sister) was living in, the girlfriend I'm marrying next weekend. I realized how much I missed my former job. The grass truly isn't always greener on the other side. I was able to leave on my own. I was very lucky I didn't get trapped. Unfortunately, there have seemingly been many who have not had it work out that way. Hopefully this review will help people avoid the trap that is Polymedco.
If you legitimately are looking to break into the medical sales industry I would look elsewhere. This isn't a job you're going to want for much more than 6-8 months, assuming you stick around that long. To me it was a glorified pharma job and not coming from that background I'm not sure I would have stuck with it even if the company and products were truly solid. Before accepting a job with Polymedco, I was a medical device representative for an orthopedic company with 3 years experience. You might ask why I decided to pursue an opportunity with Polymedco? Most importantly, I was trying to move across the country for not only a change of scenery, but to move to the city where my girlfriend (now fiancé) had relocated some 5 months before. Secondly, I was a 1099 employee, like many in orthopedics are, and was actively considering new opportunities. The job posting I saw looked enticing so I applied. I pursued a number of Ortho device jobs with no success. At the time, trying to relocate within the orthopedic community proved difficult so I took a look at the position with Polymedco via medreps.com. I went into it with an open mind so to speak. I was contacted by Jason, who apparently was in charge of qualifying candidates. After multiple phone interviews with Jason, Pete (VP), Aaron and Vince, I interviewed with Vince in person, who was a regional manager at the time. The interview process lasted damn near a month and because I was moving I had to pay for my own travel for multiple interviews and had to make up multiple excuses with my current employer to get away. They even had me travel to Florida for a ride along with a rep and to interview with Aaron and Pete in person. I swallowed the fact that I was irritated considering I was relocating and that this was just part of the deal. Overall, it was a very stressful experience that in retrospect I never should have gotten started with. I was eventually offered the job and received an offer letter that listed compensation as something completely different than the job posting and what had been discussed with Vince and company. I questioned them on it and of course they had an explanation for it, but at the time it was an offer that I could make work. My biggest goal was to get to my new city and after a long job search and interview process I decided to accept. I got the feeling that they would pull the offer if I objected. No doubt they would have.
Training was a month long. One week in Texas with Vince, two weeks in New York with Aaron and Tom, and one more week in Chicago with Jay and the others. I found some parts of the sales training to be useful, but so much of it was scripted and there was no changing or modifying the script. Their way or the highway. I swear at least half the training time was each of the managers going on about the same old crap. Unfortunately, I believed just about all of it because I had yet to be in the field and see what things were like for myself. Pete would come in 2-3 times a day and ramble on about God knows what. The organization was a mess. No one stayed on schedule and you got the feeling that the reps ultimately were going to be expendable. A lot of going through the motions.
In the field, I absolutely agree with previous posts regarding the products. The OC-Light and OC-Auto products were solid, but OC-Light was a lot of leg work for not much if any payback. By the time I was hired, there were many competitors in the market with cheaper tests distributed by the Cardinals of the world. In later trainings, they geared back on the product line because I think they realized that they had made the money they were gonna make on it and quite frankly they didn't seem thrilled to pay commissions. Yes a sales job where that's an issue. Not ideal. OC-Auto was definitely the money maker and the sales pitch on paper was seemingly solid. The problem was the length of the sales process and in my territory the business that was already present. I realized very soon that there was no way I could be financially successful within the first year and a half and thus led me to consider looking for a new job. I think the managers model was to have the reps do the grunt work, qualify the opportunities, get the sales process started, fire the rep or piss them off into leaving, come in and potentially close the account. Good luck keeping a salesperson with half a brain. As for the ESR line, well it was an insult to train me and the others repeatedly on selling something that outdated, and then expect to pay the reps next to no commission for it. It was a joke. Tom was the manager for it at the time. Absolutely had to be impossible to be enthusiastic about it, but what Pete says, Pete gets I guess.
Eventually, after all the trainings, all the ride alongs, all the false promises, all the travel, I got a call from a recruiter at a large orthopedic company that was very similar to my previous job experience. It was more pay, better benefits, far less travel, and a legit company. I was out of the Polymedco mess in 7 months. I wasn't fired, but there's no doubt I would have been within a couple of months. The turnover should have been an indicator early on, but as I said I had much to open of a mind.
Overall, the employees at home base in Cortlandt Manor were fine. John Milazzo was a peach. Anyone that has worked there knows what I'm talking about. Vince seemed like he was a decent guy, just scatterbrained and dishonest from time to time. Extremely scripted and unenthusiastic when in the field with him. I don't really blame him. The managers had new titles and responsibilities monthly if not weekly. I didn't work with Aaron much, but overall he seemed ok. Talked way too much. All of them did. Tom seemed like he needed to have a new job 10 years ago. Not sure what he's doing working with his brother and nephew. Dysfunctional at best. Jay seemed reasonable, but never got to work with him as much as I would have liked. Pete and John Goodman should have retired long ago and drove off into the sunset in their Maserati's and let someone new outside of the old boys club to run the show. I think they just like the idea of brainwashing young, successful, hungry salespeople and then break them down because they'll never have the success they've had. Something like that. I honestly don't know what else to say about them.
The only enjoyable thing was the training and interaction with my fellow sales team members. Overall, everyone was great. Perhaps we all sensed what we were getting into and just found a way to get along and still enjoy some things about it. I'm pretty certain there's only a handful or so guys left out of the 15 or so that were there when I was there. For them, I wish nothing but the best. Good luck with that.
Overall, I learned a lot from my experience. Surprisingly, I'm glad it happened. It showed me exactly what I don't want in a job for myself. It got me to the city my girlfriend (and older sister) was living in, the girlfriend I'm marrying next weekend. I realized how much I missed my former job. The grass truly isn't always greener on the other side. I was able to leave on my own. I was very lucky I didn't get trapped. Unfortunately, there have seemingly been many who have not had it work out that way. Hopefully this review will help people avoid the trap that is Polymedco.
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Great caption brother,
you conveyed the Poly rep story spot on!
you conveyed the Poly rep story spot on!
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Great summary. You described it perfectly. I am sure it is the same today. Sounds like Aaron is running the sales team to the ground. Great sales people ... Horrible management.
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I think Aaron may have finally bit the dust! I know they fired some more reps this week and rumor has it Aaron may have been let go. Can anyone confirm?
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I think Aaron may have finally bit the dust! I know they fired some more reps this week and rumor has it Aaron may have been let go. Can anyone confirm?
HAHA!! Well, it is late September, so I guess it's about that time of year to begin firing reps and coast off their new sales until January 2015 when they hire a new batch and begin the sick-cycle again....
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I think Aaron may have finally bit the dust! I know they fired some more reps this week and rumor has it Aaron may have been let go. Can anyone confirm?
I think Aaron may have finally bit the dust! I know they fired some more reps this week and rumor has it Aaron may have been let go. Can anyone confirm?
HAHA!! Well, it is late September, so I guess it's about that time of year to begin firing reps and coast off their new sales until January 2015 when they hire a new batch and begin the sick-cycle again....
Hence Polypsycho
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I applied two days ago for a position at this company ...customer service sales rep. I received a call from Jenine the very next day and did a phone interview. I am scheduled to have another phone interview with Tom Welsh on Monday. After reading these posts I think I am having second thoughts. What I read is making me run for the hills. I was laid off from my job which I was inside sales rep for an electrical wire & cable manufacture and was looking to change careers into medical sales. Anyone know of any good companies in that field that I might be able to try my luck at?
Thanks,
Donna
Thanks,
Donna