New Hire Oncology Reps

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anonymous said:
Moron? You are the moron. Do simple math if you can. 6 reps times 120k=720k. Cost of drugs, drs. upcharge/profit and administration, and the dying cancer patient and the insurance company pays.
Oncology drugs are a ripoff.
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People with integrity would never do this. Sitting at home, day after day, letting Your slide drive the car, taking your family out to dinner and expensing it as lunch for an office. Shame, shame, shame. Truly the most pathetic people.....
 








anonymous said:
People with integrity would never do this. Sitting at home, day after day, letting Your slide drive the car, taking your family out to dinner and expensing it as lunch for an office. Shame, shame, shame. Truly the most pathetic people.....
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But there’s nothing to do almost everyday. No lunches or appointments at almost every account in my territory. 6 people to do like maybe 25 sales interactions for the whole year (maybe half with docs). Both DMs know but do nothing because they’re on the $$ dole and feel RBDs don’t want to talk about this.
 




anonymous said:
But there’s nothing to do almost everyday. No lunches or appointments at almost every account in my territory. 6 people to do like maybe 25 sales interactions for the whole year (maybe half with docs). Both DMs know but do nothing because they’re on the $$ dole and feel RBDs don’t want to talk about this.
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Reps shouldn't game the system but are often left in this no-win situation. Reps who slack on purpose are criminal. It’s a form of theft. On the other hand, if a rep does what the company is asking, it’s bad for the geography, the industry, the physicians and the patients.

Do you want to go into an oncology office as a patient and see half the seats filled with reps that need a few minutes with the doc???

Like I said, bad for the patients to overdue the sales force. So an oncology rep may very well have to hold back in order to do the right thing.

No shame in that. But fight your management. Don’t begin to enjoy it. Let them know that you can hit your numbers if given more responsibility and fewer counterparts. Find some courage in your heart. If enough reps (like 10-20 of the best reps) do this, it will make a difference. I’ve seen it done before. Cowardice leads to massive layoffs and late epiphanies from senior leadership that another way is best when you knew it all along.
 




word is that the douche who came over from Hepatitis in New England and who turns his back on his pod does absolutely nothing in the field and probably games the system with the best of them. There are too many schleps here who ride other’s cost tails.
 




I have to admit, I work one lunch a week max. There’s 6 of us and we have to split it up. I have nothing to do so I take and pickup my kids from school. Go to the gym in between and go have lunch with friends. I just talk a Good Game on conference calls and meetings. People think I know what I’m doing but I hardly work.
 




Yiu are spot on that’s why I have a side business. I’m loving the double dippin. I use my bms credit card to do lunch and learns with my personal business clients lol
 




anonymous said:
word is that the douche who came over from Hepatitis in New England and who turns his back on his pod does absolutely nothing in the field and probably games the system with the best of them. There are too many schleps here who ride other’s cost tails.
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C’mon, All six are riding each other’s coattails everywhere. All except you, right?
 








anonymous said:
Reps shouldn't game the system but are often left in this no-win situation. Reps who slack on purpose are criminal. It’s a form of theft. On the other hand, if a rep does what the company is asking, it’s bad for the geography, the industry, the physicians and the patients.

Do you want to go into an oncology office as a patient and see half the seats filled with reps that need a few minutes with the doc???

Like I said, bad for the patients to overdue the sales force. So an oncology rep may very well have to hold back in order to do the right thing.

No shame in that. But fight your management. Don’t begin to enjoy it. Let them know that you can hit your numbers if given more responsibility and fewer counterparts. Find some courage in your heart. If enough reps (like 10-20 of the best reps) do this, it will make a difference. I’ve seen it done before. Cowardice leads to massive layoffs and late epiphanies from senior leadership that another way is best when you knew it all along.
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You sound like me 20 yrs ago.
In la-la land maybe. Senior leadership, and I use both words carefully, could care less. They name the game and make the rules that change regularly. We are only the players with no say in anything.
Why do you think Pharma jobs are so well paid? They keep us fat, dumb, and happy with great pay and benes to do virtually nothing that actually generates business. They need the expenses to offset the exorbitant profits that would be eaten up by taxes. It’s that simple.
We’re the necessary evil to them. They’ve been trying to get rid of us all for many years, and are getting closer to it every year.
Fight the good fight. I hope you can do better than I and the others like us who tried, but obviously failed.
 




anonymous said:
You sound like me 20 yrs ago.
In la-la land maybe. Senior leadership, and I use both words carefully, could care less. They name the game and make the rules that change regularly. We are only the players with no say in anything.
Why do you think Pharma jobs are so well paid? They keep us fat, dumb, and happy with great pay and benes to do virtually nothing that actually generates business. They need the expenses to offset the exorbitant profits that would be eaten up by taxes. It’s that simple.
We’re the necessary evil to them. They’ve been trying to get rid of us all for many years, and are getting closer to it every year.
Fight the good fight. I hope you can do better than I and the others like us who tried, but obviously failed.
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^^^ The leader in the clubhouse for post of 2018. Very well said/done...
 




anonymous said:
Reps shouldn't game the system but are often left in this no-win situation. Reps who slack on purpose are criminal. It’s a form of theft. On the other hand, if a rep does what the company is asking, it’s bad for the geography, the industry, the physicians and the patients.

Do you want to go into an oncology office as a patient and see half the seats filled with reps that need a few minutes with the doc???

Like I said, bad for the patients to overdue the sales force. So an oncology rep may very well have to hold back in order to do the right thing.

No shame in that. But fight your management. Don’t begin to enjoy it. Let them know that you can hit your numbers if given more responsibility and fewer counterparts. Find some courage in your heart. If enough reps (like 10-20 of the best reps) do this, it will make a difference. I’ve seen it done before. Cowardice leads to massive layoffs and late epiphanies from senior leadership that another way is best when you knew it all along.
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This issue has been raised year after year. They all are drinking the same koolaid. They like hiring more and more reps. They say, more reps, more sales. If they only tried to test this theory, they would see the same sales increases at the same pace with less reps. But they don’t want to see it. Other companies have proven that you do not need 6-7 reps per Oncologist. Wake up BMS!
 




anonymous said:
This issue has been raised year after year. They all are drinking the same koolaid. They like hiring more and more reps. They say, more reps, more sales. If they only tried to test this theory, they would see the same sales increases at the same pace with less reps. But they don’t want to see it. Other companies have proven that you do not need 6-7 reps per Oncologist. Wake up BMS!
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6-7 is totally crazy. If your management doesn’t see that then they’re blind and greedy.

Layoffs are coming. It’s not a matter of if...it’s a matter of when.

It will be the fault of failed management that you get laid off. It won’t be your fault. It’s wtong to do that to people.
 




















anonymous said:
6-7 is totally crazy. If your management doesn’t see that then they’re blind and greedy.

Layoffs are coming. It’s not a matter of if...it’s a matter of when.

It will be the fault of failed management that you get laid off. It won’t be your fault. It’s wtong to do that to people.
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bite your tongue you slav, we need your souls and blood-6 is the number-loser
 








anonymous said:
6-7 is totally crazy. If your management doesn’t see that then they’re blind and greedy.

Layoffs are coming. It’s not a matter of if...it’s a matter of when.

It will be the fault of failed management that you get laid off. It won’t be your fault. It’s wtong to do that to people.
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For sure layoffs
 




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