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anonymous said:
The national growth rate is paying nothing in bonus. Is this normal at a pharmaceutical company?
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If this were true, it would not be normal. What is also not normal is someone at this company unable to do elementary math. The fact that you even said this makes you completely moronic. If you are at pace with the nation using the current monthly report, the least amount of money you would make is 6k per quarter which is not including the special incentive or retention bonus based on how you did in your zone. This is also exactly what we were told in the interview, Supernus budgets an average payout of 6k/qtr. Get with the program or get out.
 












anonymous said:
If this were true, it would not be normal. What is also not normal is someone at this company unable to do elementary math. The fact that you even said this makes you completely moronic. If you are at pace with the nation using the current monthly report, the least amount of money you would make is 6k per quarter which is not including the special incentive or retention bonus based on how you did in your zone. This is also exactly what we were told in the interview, Supernus budgets an average payout of 6k/qtr. Get with the program or get out.
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The nation hasn't grown over .40 with either product for the first 7 months. If you are an "average rep" or at national growth you are at .40 with each product for the year. That is no where near $6k per qtr.

Calculate this dumbass:
.40 (national growth rate for each product YTD) x $6k (per point payout) 2 (number of products) :/ 2 (number of quarters)

This equates to $2400 per quarter per rep in bonus when you are at the national average. This is significantly less than the $6k per quarter at the national growth rate you claim. STOP TRYING TO INTENTIONALLY DECEIVE THE REPS.
 






anonymous said:
The nation hasn't grown over .40 with either product for the first 7 months. If you are an "average rep" or at national growth you are at .40 with each product for the year. That is no where near $6k per qtr.

Calculate this dumbass:
.40 (national growth rate for each product YTD) x $6k (per point payout) 2 (number of products) :/ 2 (number of quarters)

This equates to $2400 per quarter per rep in bonus when you are at the national average. This is significantly less than the $6k per quarter at the national growth rate you claim. STOP TRYING TO INTENTIONALLY DECEIVE THE REPS.
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Deceiving. HRMMMMM. The more you type on your iPhone that our company pays for, the less competent you seem to be. Your reason for multiplying 6k with YTD growth has me confused. For one 6k is not even the correct value for point growth for both. Secondly YTD growth has 0 to do with our bonus. Our bonus is based on quarterly increase versus the last and yes first quarter wasn’t huge for everyone. Q1 is tough in every market. Deductibles and insurances reset remember? Even then the best reps make money AND the nation has grown .6 and .3 vs Q1. So calculate this “dumbass”. 7k (ACTUAL TROK. value) X.6 plus 6kX.3. That will be the average pay. OH, before you pull up your calculator, that’s 6k. Will you at the least read the bonus plan before you sign it next time and please ask your Rd to do more ride alongs? You need help! This newb over here is commiserating with his no growth having buddies and here he sits without knowing jack squat about how to calculate his own bonus. Good news is now you know. Worry about yourself. The nation will be more than fine.
 






anonymous said:
Deceiving. HRMMMMM. The more you type on your iPhone that our company pays for, the less competent you seem to be. Your reason for multiplying 6k with YTD growth has me confused. For one 6k is not even the correct value for point growth for both. Secondly YTD growth has 0 to do with our bonus. Our bonus is based on quarterly increase versus the last and yes first quarter wasn’t huge for everyone. Q1 is tough in every market. Deductibles and insurances reset remember? Even then the best reps make money AND the nation has grown .6 and .3 vs Q1. So calculate this “dumbass”. 7k (ACTUAL TROK. value) X.6 plus 6kX.3. That will be the average pay. OH, before you pull up your calculator, that’s 6k. Will you at the least read the bonus plan before you sign it next time and please ask your Rd to do more ride alongs? You need help! This newb over here is commiserating with his no growth having buddies and here he sits without knowing jack squat about how to calculate his own bonus. Good news is now you know. Worry about yourself. The nation will be more than fine.
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We have been discussing at national growth YTD all along. You want to cherry pick Q2 that's fine. Don't for a second try to say reps are making $6k in bonus per QTR for the year. Now go back to tracking the 3 boxes that were nationally redeemed yesterday,.
 






I hate it here. I feel my base is low for a neuro sales specialist and our drugs are the definition of me too. I am just getting tired of spinning these XRs into the game changers that they aren’t! Top it off with the poor communication from corporate, poor pipeline, and an RD that doesn’t provide any value and I’m over it. Hoping I get a cal back from interviewing for this ALS launch or from the narcolepsy launch. I had to lie about my base to make them think I was valuable. Told them I get 90 a year and they said good they start at 98!?!?! I’m only making 78 here base after 3 years. Oh and they offer 4 weeks vacation to start jumping to 5 after 2 years!!!
 






anonymous said:
We have been discussing at national growth YTD all along. You want to cherry pick Q2 that's fine. Don't for a second try to say reps are making $6k in bonus per QTR for the year. Now go back to tracking the 3 boxes that were nationally redeemed yesterday,.
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That’s it. From now on you’re not allowed to post on here about bonus or growth or anything for that matter. Quite frankly, the mere fact that you didn’t know how to calculate your bonus (mr above the nation) from the start and used the incorrect per point pay is enough to just not take anything you say seriously. Like come on bruh, seriously? Reconsider your role here as a “professional” rep if you can’t demonstrate the necessary knowledge to even calculate what you’re taking home in bonus money. I sort of want to see your head explode and ask you to figure out how many scripts it would take to grow a market share point. Lets not even address that though and try to draw attention to the boxes to check, lmfao. Everyone clap your hands, at least he got the number boxes to be checked correct. If you think the sales force won’t make an average of 6k a quarter by the end of this year you’ve seriously lost your marbles. If you’re angry that you’re not one of the reps pulling in 10-20k per quarter that’s on you. There’s plenty that are. It’s out there but there’s a price to pay - work. Don’t lie about your above the nation crap. You’d be lucky to be right behind the nation based off of your pitiful viewpoint and lackluster knowledge. Ill help you get started. Check those boxes with your docs, and you better listen to me or you’ll be taking 0 home again in Q3! NOW STOP DRAGGING OUR NATION DOWN AND WORK.
 






anonymous said:
I hate it here. I feel my base is low for a neuro sales specialist and our drugs are the definition of me too. I am just getting tired of spinning these XRs into the game changers that they aren’t! Top it off with the poor communication from corporate, poor pipeline, and an RD that doesn’t provide any value and I’m over it. Hoping I get a cal back from interviewing for this ALS launch or from the narcolepsy launch. I had to lie about my base to make them think I was valuable. Told them I get 90 a year and they said good they start at 98!?!?! I’m only making 78 here base after 3 years. Oh and they offer 4 weeks vacation to start jumping to 5 after 2 years!!!
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Poor pipeline, right. Poor communication? What do you want to know? Did you ask at the meetings? Neuro sales specialist? Did you give yourself that title? If you can’t make it at Supernus you’re up shits creek anywhere else. It’s not perfect. No company is. but it’s a lot better than most. People with integrity like it here because they know that there will be adversity to be a successful company. You clearly don’t have that integrity. Before you come back bitching and complaining, you’ve already told us you’ve started to lie to your potential future employer. We’re rooting for you. We hope you get that callback too.
 






anonymous said:
That’s it. From now on you’re not allowed to post on here about bonus or growth or anything for that matter. Quite frankly, the mere fact that you didn’t know how to calculate your bonus (mr above the nation) from the start and used the incorrect per point pay is enough to just not take anything you say seriously. Like come on bruh, seriously? Reconsider your role here as a “professional” rep if you can’t demonstrate the necessary knowledge to even calculate what you’re taking home in bonus money. I sort of want to see your head explode and ask you to figure out how many scripts it would take to grow a market share point. Lets not even address that though and try to draw attention to the boxes to check, lmfao. Everyone clap your hands, at least he got the number boxes to be checked correct. If you think the sales force won’t make an average of 6k a quarter by the end of this year you’ve seriously lost your marbles. If you’re angry that you’re not one of the reps pulling in 10-20k per quarter that’s on you. There’s plenty that are. It’s out there but there’s a price to pay - work. Don’t lie about your above the nation crap. You’d be lucky to be right behind the nation based off of your pitiful viewpoint and lackluster knowledge. Ill help you get started. Check those boxes with your docs, and you better listen to me or you’ll be taking 0 home again in Q3! NOW STOP DRAGGING OUR NATION DOWN AND WORK.
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If you feel the need to waste your time to "frame" a rep on CP as an idiot that can't calculate then you are a lot more concerned about what is said on here than I thought.I know you are really trying to murky up the waters and it's sad that in the face of facts that's the only thing you can do. So go ahead and try to "frame" me in any light you want, but the facts are the facts. You previously stated in Post #83 that reps were earning $6k in bonus per QTR for the year, this is a lie. You are a liar. Case closed.

As far as the "order" you made "That's it. From now on you're not allowed to post on here about bonus or growth or anything for that matter." A liar (you) is doing a terrible job in trying to discredit me. I will continue to post WHENEVER regarding WHATEVER I want. Now go think up a way to spin this into how you aren't a liar. You can start by reflecting back to post #83 you POS!
 






anonymous said:
Poor pipeline, right. Poor communication? What do you want to know? Did you ask at the meetings? Neuro sales specialist? Did you give yourself that title? If you can’t make it at Supernus you’re up shits creek anywhere else. It’s not perfect. No company is. but it’s a lot better than most. People with integrity like it here because they know that there will be adversity to be a successful company. You clearly don’t have that integrity. Before you come back bitching and complaining, you’ve already told us you’ve started to lie to your potential future employer. We’re rooting for you. We hope you get that callback too.
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When you get laid off with just a month of severance and your stocks are with nothing I hope you look back on your time defending Supernus and calling everyone else that complained lazy and lacking integrity with a bit of humility. They don’t care about you or me. You are a tool that they are using the shit out of and all of your peers think you’re a tool too!
 






Pipeline?!?! We are the XR company! We will stick Solutrol and Microtrol in any generic med. shit we don’t even have to do phase 3 clinicals on any products because they were already done 20 plus years ago. We have a huge pipeline!
 






anonymous said:
When you get laid off with just a month of severance and your stocks are with nothing I hope you look back on your time defending Supernus and calling everyone else that complained lazy and lacking integrity with a bit of humility. They don’t care about you or me. You are a tool that they are using the shit out of and all of your peers think you’re a tool too!
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Who’s getting laid off? The stock is going to be worth 0? Oh I guess you’re basing your predictions on the companies terrible past. Oops I forgot. The company has actually been really successful. Some company named Deloitte said that. Oh but who are they to judge right? Guess what? I didn’t come here to get coddled. I came here to have a career and a successful one. Your manager is not your buddy. They are not supposed to be. Companies use people to grow. No one is disagreeing with you about that. What do you think we get paid for? Free cars for? Cell phones for? iPads for? It’s not free. This isn’t a $12/hr part-time job. This is a real business aimed at making money! The Sales force is expensive. They will and rightfully so demand a lot from us. You wouldn’t if it was your company? You want to leave for another company because there’s no “transparency” yet you are starting an interview by lying to them. I will look at you with no humility. You don’t deserve it. You deserve a reality check.
 






anonymous said:
If you feel the need to waste your time to "frame" a rep on CP as an idiot that can't calculate then you are a lot more concerned about what is said on here than I thought.I know you are really trying to murky up the waters and it's sad that in the face of facts that's the only thing you can do. So go ahead and try to "frame" me in any light you want, but the facts are the facts. You previously stated in Post #83 that reps were earning $6k in bonus per QTR for the year, this is a lie. You are a liar. Case closed.

As far as the "order" you made "That's it. From now on you're not allowed to post on here about bonus or growth or anything for that matter." A liar (you) is doing a terrible job in trying to discredit me. I will continue to post WHENEVER regarding WHATEVER I want. Now go think up a way to spin this into how you aren't a liar. You can start by reflecting back to post #83 you POS!
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It’s really hard to “try” to frame you. You hung yourself. In post 83 it was actually stated that in the “current report (being the end of 2Q, if a rep was on pace with the nation they would have made 6k” which is 100% fact. Ask your smarter friends or your manager - they will say the same. As for the “facts” that you are saying that you made, I don’t know what facts you were talking about. All of the “facts” and “calculations” you had made in post #85 we’re all incorrectly done. Like, 0 validity. There’s a reason that nobody has stepped in and defended you on that. Your calculations are just all wrong. Lolz
 






anonymous said:
If you feel the need to waste your time to "frame" a rep on CP as an idiot that can't calculate then you are a lot more concerned about what is said on here than I thought.I know you are really trying to murky up the waters and it's sad that in the face of facts that's the only thing you can do. So go ahead and try to "frame" me in any light you want, but the facts are the facts. You previously stated in Post #83 that reps were earning $6k in bonus per QTR for the year, this is a lie. You are a liar. Case closed.

As far as the "order" you made "That's it. From now on you're not allowed to post on here about bonus or growth or anything for that matter." A liar (you) is doing a terrible job in trying to discredit me. I will continue to post WHENEVER regarding WHATEVER I want. Now go think up a way to spin this into how you aren't a liar. You can start by reflecting back to post #83 you POS!
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Post 83 read “If you are at pace with the nation using the CURRENT monthly report, the least amount of money you would make is 6k per quarter which is not including the special incentive or retention bonus based on how you did in your zone.”

It’s factual that the current report would show national quarterly growth for Q2. And that gives you an indicator of average bonus payout. That’s a fact. Supernus budgeting for 6k/qtr is also a fact. Ask your manager. Your post in #85 actually has zero validity. Im not trying to frame you. You have hung yourself by posting that and this. Just stop. No one is stepping in to defend you because you’re just wrong.
 












anonymous said:
Post 83 read “If you are at pace with the nation using the CURRENT monthly report, the least amount of money you would make is 6k per quarter which is not including the special incentive or retention bonus based on how you did in your zone.”

It’s factual that the current report would show national quarterly growth for Q2. And that gives you an indicator of average bonus payout. That’s a fact. Supernus budgeting for 6k/qtr is also a fact. Ask your manager. Your post in #85 actually has zero validity. Im not trying to frame you. You have hung yourself by posting that and this. Just stop. No one is stepping in to defend you because you’re just wrong.
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You do realize you posted on this topic twice. I love the fact that I am getting under your skin. You are really showing a lack of composure right now. I'm surprised corporate didn't catch this during your ZD interview. You will be gone before me.
 






anonymous said:
It’s really hard to “try” to frame you. You hung yourself. In post 83 it was actually stated that in the “current report (being the end of 2Q, if a rep was on pace with the nation they would have made 6k” which is 100% fact. Ask your smarter friends or your manager - they will say the same. As for the “facts” that you are saying that you made, I don’t know what facts you were talking about. All of the “facts” and “calculations” you had made in post #85 we’re all incorrectly done. Like, 0 validity. There’s a reason that nobody has stepped in and defended you on that. Your calculations are just all wrong. Lolz
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I was pointing out in post 85 the average bonus payout between Q1 and Q2 combined. If you cannot understand that then you really need help.
 






anonymous said:
Post 83 read “If you are at pace with the nation using the CURRENT monthly report, the least amount of money you would make is 6k per quarter which is not including the special incentive or retention bonus based on how you did in your zone.”

It’s factual that the current report would show national quarterly growth for Q2. And that gives you an indicator of average bonus payout. That’s a fact. Supernus budgeting for 6k/qtr is also a fact. Ask your manager. Your post in #85 actually has zero validity. Im not trying to frame you. You have hung yourself by posting that and this. Just stop. No one is stepping in to defend you because you’re just wrong.
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I'm sure Supernus budgeted $6k in bonus for Q1, did reps earn $6k in bonus for Q1? Saying a company has a certain amount budgeted for bonus really means nothing. What is important is what is attainable. Yes, Q2 was better but how difficult is it to grow off an atrocious Q1. We are short of projections if that doesn't spell out the reality for us reps what does!!!
 






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