What business did you start? Please help those of us that didn't see the writing on the wall, or were too afraid to take the leap, or needed the steady income and insurance to support our families. Did you start a LLC or an S-Corp 4 years ago? Does anyone still here know anyone that used to carry a Novartis bag that has started a successful business? I don't know any.
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Went to unemployment office today.
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Finally a rational and logical response. You are soooo spot on. Its amazing that these people will lie to themselves.
So here you have the classic novartis corporate mole posting this BS bogus garbage
in some feeble attempt to 'scare' you into bowing down & kissing the ass of your
corporate masters with love & adulation of the crappy rep job they will allow you to keep
for one final year.
Every rep from every company in our district found gainful employment after layoffs
with other pharma co's , contract companies , disposables , device & non related industries
Don't let these jack wipes con you into thinking otherwise.
Yes, in pharma sales nobody cares. I mean really, its a low skill high pay job. For other more professional and challenging positions, people DO care; just read all of the posting saying "MBA preferred". As far as quotas go, I thing my education and experience speaks for themselves. If a company needs to use a auto to overcome racial bias in their hiring and promotions, then that's on them! There is no shame or worry in my game, sorry.
Don't know about the above poster, but I also started my own business. I manage a team of professionals who are experts in negotiating insurance claims, medical coverage for those not covered and providing patients with a liason to helping medical facilities in applications for claim coverage. I have 14 employees including a medical director, PharmD and 2 attorneys. This is not unique but had not been done in my area and has been hugely successful. I have been working on this concept for 12 years but did not commit full time until I was downsized. Our next step will be cafeteria style coverage for customers who prefer this type of medical care. I have an MBA and just completed my PhD in Health Care Management. It can be done.
So true , everyone I know landed on their feet. Enough with scare tactics management .
Cush job , easy money for 2 hours a day. When this gravy train ends it's on to another .
BFD
A) I don't really care, just pointing out the obvious
B) I'm not old or a curmudgeon
C) I was separated from Novartis in one of the last "downsizings"
D) I saw the writing on the wall years ago, so I prepared by:
1) not living beyond my means
2) having them pay for my additional education
If you didn't see this coming, you're either ignorant, a drunk frat boy or a ditzy cheerleader-if the shoe fits
It's all part of the "be glad you have a job" (albeit a temp job at best)
propaganda campaign so you wake up & look at those blue skies & sing
your best impression of 'whistle while you' work foistering un-needed
overpriced branded garbage meds on an unsuspecting public that
have better & safer generic alternatives but as usual the subterfuge by novartis
paid lackeys is embarrassingly transparent.
A) I don't really care, just pointing out the obvious
B) I'm not old or a curmudgeon
C) I was separated from Novartis in one of the last "downsizings"
D) I saw the writing on the wall years ago, so I prepared by:
1) not living beyond my means
2) having them pay for my additional education
If you didn't see this coming, you're either ignorant, a drunk frat boy or a ditzy cheerleader-if the shoe fits
Perhaps this can be crystal clear. Fuck off , Go fuck yourself . No one gives a shit what you think. You are an irrelevent asshole. Got it ? Good ! Now go away captain obvious.
I got downsized from pharma a few years ago. I am now self-employed.
I wake up at 8:00 am CST, then head to my office with my mug of coffee and open my laptop. I don't wear the monkey suit anymore, and usually work in my jeans or shorts. I may or may not leave the house until 3:00 pm CST. Just depends on the day.
So, what is my "job"? I am my own self-directed hedge fund manager. Yes, I am a short-term trader on Wallstreet via the Internet. My hours are usually the market hours, with the last hour typically being the most important. I now make more than I ever made in Pharma. I answer to nobody except God alone.
I play the market as it develops using both directional and advanced option trades. I make money no matter what the market decides to do. I make money whether the market is either bullish or bearish or just going sideways. Some days I lose money, but my "wins" are now far exceeding my losses.
The good new is this: Trading for a living from home is the dream of many and anyone can learn to become a professional trader.
That being said, it is not easy. You must go through your learning curve. Overall, it takes DISCIPLINE, patience, risk management, and you must control your emotions. On some days, I don't make any trades. Many days I make $100--$500 a day. Other days, while in any one particular trade I can make thousands in just a few hours, overnight, or in a few days. Some trades might take a few months to make a nice profit.
I love trading for a living. To be sure, you are at WAR everyday with the market makers. Over time, you will hone you trading style and skills. I have a written set of trading rules which I never break---EVER. Psychology is the MOST important part of becoming a successful trader. Yes, Fundamental and Technical analysis are important, but your own psychological makeup is what will determine whether you are either a successful or unsuccessful trader. Your too greatest battles that are fought are between greed and fear.
I will be the first to say it is not for everybody. Most of your friends and family will tell you that you are crazy, as the market is just too risky. But, it can be done. And it is truly what I love doing. I am so happy now that my pharma days are behind me!
I wake up at 8:00 am CST, then head to my office with my mug of coffee and open my laptop. I don't wear the monkey suit anymore, and usually work in my jeans or shorts. I may or may not leave the house until 3:00 pm CST. Just depends on the day.
So, what is my "job"? I am my own self-directed hedge fund manager. Yes, I am a short-term trader on Wallstreet via the Internet. My hours are usually the market hours, with the last hour typically being the most important. I now make more than I ever made in Pharma. I answer to nobody except God alone.
I play the market as it develops using both directional and advanced option trades. I make money no matter what the market decides to do. I make money whether the market is either bullish or bearish or just going sideways. Some days I lose money, but my "wins" are now far exceeding my losses.
The good new is this: Trading for a living from home is the dream of many and anyone can learn to become a professional trader.
That being said, it is not easy. You must go through your learning curve. Overall, it takes DISCIPLINE, patience, risk management, and you must control your emotions. On some days, I don't make any trades. Many days I make $100--$500 a day. Other days, while in any one particular trade I can make thousands in just a few hours, overnight, or in a few days. Some trades might take a few months to make a nice profit.
I love trading for a living. To be sure, you are at WAR everyday with the market makers. Over time, you will hone you trading style and skills. I have a written set of trading rules which I never break---EVER. Psychology is the MOST important part of becoming a successful trader. Yes, Fundamental and Technical analysis are important, but your own psychological makeup is what will determine whether you are either a successful or unsuccessful trader. Your too greatest battles that are fought are between greed and fear.
I will be the first to say it is not for everybody. Most of your friends and family will tell you that you are crazy, as the market is just too risky. But, it can be done. And it is truly what I love doing. I am so happy now that my pharma days are behind me!
So you think there are many opportunities for drug reps, that will pay more than 30-40% of what you make now? The shock that you receive wjen you are fired will be huge. Everybody talks the brave " plenty of opportunity" talk, until they are faced with reality. Again, money isnt everything, so if you dont mind starting your career over again at a fraction of your pay, i agree youll be ok. But if you actually need your pay to survive, or anything close, you are doomed. Thats just real! If you thinkdelivering pizzas and saying " hi doc can i get a signature" has prepared you for anything, you are kidding yourself. Do you know that many drugs reps make more money that doctors? Most make more than average lawyers, engineers, arcjtects, cpa, professors, pharmacists, in many areas it could be twice as much as some of these professions. Again, THINK! DONT BE SO EMOTTIONAL OR DEFENSIVE.