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Well, how much do you have in your 401K and how old are you?

Don’t pay anyone to manage your money. A good resource is the Bogleheads forum. Start with the suggested reading list.
John Bogle is a fraud.

Do you really think he knows more about the stock market or investing than people with common sense?

NO, he doesn't. Its a rigged game. Designed to take your money.

Do yourself a favor and just do this if you want to protect your wealth...here it goes...

Max out your primary residence. You can at least live in the house. And the market will be stable moving forward. When I say "max out", I mean go for living in the best neighborhood in your city, and in the best house you can afford in that city.

401K is for losers. If you can't see that, you are truly just not intelligent. Sorry to burst your bubbles.
 






Do yourself a favor and just do this if you want to protect your wealth...here it goes...

Max out your primary residence. You can at least live in the house. And the market will be stable moving forward. When I say "max out", I mean go for living in the best neighborhood in your city, and in the best house you can afford in that city.
Everyone knows the smart advice would be to get an RV ("You can at least live in the house") and then put a safe in it if you want to protect your wealth.
 






Everyone knows the smart advice would be to get an RV ("You can at least live in the house") and then put a safe in it if you want to protect your wealth.
Sure thing Jim Carey, Pet Detective.

Primary residence is the safest investment, and it is not even close.

Also, with digital currency, things can get out of hand quickly. There is more risk now then ever, with all the manipulation, set up by the "powers that be". I know who these "powers" are. You can find out for yourself. You certainly won't discover that information in any local newspaper, or TV, etc. You have to dig in very deep. These people will just seek to destroy your wealth. So, protect yourself and your family by "maxing" out your primary residence.

Also, the best way to carry forward your generational wealth is to buy property for your children, grandchildren, etc.

Get away from the 401k asap. If you were a sucker and invested in it most of your life, I would say just stick it out for now. No need to penalize yourself. You screwed up. That is life. Move on and learn from you bad investment.
 






John Bogle is a fraud.

Do you really think he knows more about the stock market or investing than people with common sense?

NO, he doesn't. Its a rigged game. Designed to take your money.

Do yourself a favor and just do this if you want to protect your wealth...here it goes...

Max out your primary residence. You can at least live in the house. And the market will be stable moving forward. When I say "max out", I mean go for living in the best neighborhood in your city, and in the best house you can afford in that city.

401K is for losers. If you can't see that, you are truly just not intelligent. Sorry to burst your bubbles.
First of all, John Bogle passed away, so you should be referring to him in the past tense. Secondly, John Bogle has probably helped more people to become millionaires than anyone else has in history. Simple look at his advice and return rates. Third, you advice on a home is wrong. A home is something to live in. Period. The more you spend, the higher your costs will be for taxes, insurance and maintenance (think replacement costs). Instead, buy what you need and invest the rest. Lastly, we have been over this many times as to how your are wrong on 401ks and overall investing. Anyone that follows your advice is a moron.
 






Just a few fun facts:

In looking at the total stock held by American’s, 93% is owned by the top 10% of wealthiest Americans, while the bottom 50% own only 1%.

Over half the wealth of High Net Worth Individuals (HNWI), is held in retirement accounts (401Ks, IRA’s, etc)

85% of millionaires currently have money in 401ks.


Decide is you want to be like the wealthy and do what they do, or be broke like the idiot on this thread that bashes stock, 401ks, etc.
 






First of all, John Bogle passed away, so you should be referring to him in the past tense. Secondly, John Bogle has probably helped more people to become millionaires than anyone else has in history. Simple look at his advice and return rates. Third, you advice on a home is wrong. A home is something to live in. Period. The more you spend, the higher your costs will be for taxes, insurance and maintenance (think replacement costs). Instead, buy what you need and invest the rest. Lastly, we have been over this many times as to how your are wrong on 401ks and overall investing. Anyone that follows your advice is a moron.
John Bogle is another controlled puppet.

What don't you understand about this world?

Do I have to spell everything out for you, like a 1st grader?
 






John Bogle is another controlled puppet.

What don't you understand about this world?

Do I have to spell everything out for you, like a 1st grader?
Not only are you a moron that has no grasp of the facts, you also can’t read. John Bogle is dead. As to his legacy, he was the opposite of being controlled. He changed the game by bringing a low cost option to the average investor so that they were not beholden to the legacy firms with much higher costs. John Bogle founded Vanguard, to which investors became part owners of the funds so that any profits were incorporated into the operating structure. This is obviously where no-load funds got there start and the rest is history.

Seriously, you are digging an even bigger hole for yourself. You make nonstop comments that lack any factual support and you make recommendations that are inferior with respect to return rates. I doubt you have much of anything to invest. If you do someday gather a few bucks together, I suggest you find someone else to manage what little resources you happen to gather as you clearly are not capable of managing anything more than the coins in your pocket.
 






Some of the advice on this thread is horrible. Let’s look at a few:

Avoiding IRAs/401Ks/similar retirement accounts - The poster makes comments as if these vehicles are the actual investments. They are not. The investments are the actual funds, stocks, etc within these vehicles. The benefit of these accounts are related to the tax treatment. Under traditional programs, tax is deferred until you have withdrawals (always great to pay taxes later vs now). With Roth accounts, you have the normal tax treatment upfront with your earnings, but it grows tax free. It is best to place retirement money in these accounts first. Uneducated people will warn you about tying up money because you might need it in an emergency. Retirement money is NOT meant to address emergencies. Instead, everyone should first establish an emergency fund before doing anything else. Thus the argument about tying the money up is just silly.

Investing in gold/silver instead of stocks - There are many ways to invest in gold and silver. Overall, the return rates have lagged the long term S&P by approximately 20%. If you really want to own some gold and or silver, make it a small percentage of your portfolio. Unless you are a collector, avoid rare coins. You can easily be ripped off. Also, collectibles of any form are hard to liquidate during down markets(remember what happened in 2008/2009).

Buy the largest home you can - Uneducated people point to the historic rise in home values to support this argument. What they fail to account for is the ongoing carrying costs. Property taxes vary by state, but an average is 1% of the home value per year. Add to that the cost of home insurance (including your umbrella costs), ongoing maintenance, replacement of major systems (HVAC, roof, etc), utility bills, etc. The larger the home, the more these expenses will cost you each year. As such, the gain you thought you were getting isn’t real. For full disclosure, I have a very large home. It s over 5300 sq ft and is worth over $1.8 million. I have this home because I like it and can afford it. From an investment perspective, it is not the best option for me. A home that is half this size would be sufficient and the my ongoing expenses would be much less and I could invest the difference. If you can afford a bigger home and you want it for enjoyment, go ahead. But if you are giving the recommendation based on advice, it would be the wrong way to go.


My final advice is to read up on all these topics yourself. Look at the data/facts and that way you will be making the smart decision for yourself.
 






John Bogle is a fraud.

Do you really think he knows more about the stock market or investing than people with common sense?

NO, he doesn't. Its a rigged game. Designed to take your money.

Do yourself a favor and just do this if you want to protect your wealth...here it goes...

Max out your primary residence. You can at least live in the house. And the market will be stable moving forward. When I say "max out", I mean go for living in the best neighborhood in your city, and in the best house you can afford in that city.

401K is for losers. If you can't see that, you are truly just not intelligent. Sorry to burst your bubbles.
So you as an investment guru suggest that people should put their money into underperforming assets, avoid the tax advantages of retirement programs and then by excessively in real estate that costs you more each month is operating costs. Sounds like a great recipe to go broke like you. Sorry, but not interested. It’s not surprising that you got kicked out if pharma given your lack of basic thinking skills.
 






So you as an investment guru suggest that people should put their money into underperforming assets, avoid the tax advantages of retirement programs and then by excessively in real estate that costs you more each month is operating costs. Sounds like a great recipe to go broke like you. Sorry, but not interested. It’s not surprising that you got kicked out if pharma given your lack of basic thinking skills.
Nobody gets kicked out of the most corrupt industry in the world. I mean, porn has more integrity.

It is not my fault your brain never evolved.

Try eating more meat. Drink raw milk. Grow up. Stop watching so much TV. Get into nature more and think better. Sun is good for you.

You will never go where I will when it is all said and done. You just didn't do the work. You don't even know that signs and symbols rule the world, do you?

And yes, the 401k is a "bait and switch", just like that call girl that grabs your money but doesn't deliver the goods after.
 






Nobody gets kicked out of the most corrupt industry in the world. I mean, porn has more integrity.

It is not my fault your brain never evolved.

Try eating more meat. Drink raw milk. Grow up. Stop watching so much TV. Get into nature more and think better. Sun is good for you.

You will never go where I will when it is all said and done. You just didn't do the work. You don't even know that signs and symbols rule the world, do you?

And yes, the 401k is a "bait and switch", just like that call girl that grabs your money but doesn't deliver the goods after.
It is tough to get kicked out of pharma, but you managed to do so. It is not surprising, however, since you don’t like to deal with silly things like facts.

You look for signs and symbols? Can‘t just use your brain like the successful people do? You also seem to be dealing with some sexual frustrations/issues since you bring up porn and a call girl. Maybe a mental health expert/therapist can help you with all that. Therapists, however, cost money, so you will have to work a few extra hours at the fast food joint to pay those bills.
 






It is tough to get kicked out of pharma, but you managed to do so. It is not surprising, however, since you don’t like to deal with silly things like facts.

You look for signs and symbols? Can‘t just use your brain like the successful people do? You also seem to be dealing with some sexual frustrations/issues since you bring up porn and a call girl. Maybe a mental health expert/therapist can help you with all that. Therapists, however, cost money, so you will have to work a few extra hours at the fast food joint to pay those bills.
Further to those points, his recommendation for raw milk is also moronic. Raw milk advocates try pushing various health myths that are not supported by data via well controlled studies. Instead, there are increased health risks from fecal/pathogen contamination in consuming raw milk. Anyone like a little extra fecal matter or pathogens swimming around in their milk? Of course not.
 






Nobody gets kicked out of the most corrupt industry in the world. I mean, porn has more integrity.

It is not my fault your brain never evolved.

Try eating more meat. Drink raw milk. Grow up. Stop watching so much TV. Get into nature more and think better. Sun is good for you.

You will never go where I will when it is all said and done. You just didn't do the work. You don't even know that signs and symbols rule the world, do you?

And yes, the 401k is a "bait and switch", just like that call girl that grabs your money but doesn't deliver the goods after.
This guy morons regularly
 






Further to those points, his recommendation for raw milk is also moronic. Raw milk advocates try pushing various health myths that are not supported by data via well controlled studies. Instead, there are increased health risks from fecal/pathogen contamination in consuming raw milk. Anyone like a little extra fecal matter or pathogens swimming around in their milk? O

401k is like a jab, jab on!