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FYI If you are Novartis internal and want to go for rep position, it is CONTRACT for the first year at least so you would be Ventiv employee not Novartis which is why they are not directly interviewing internally.... Managers will be Novartis direct hire but NOT REPS
 






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FYI If you are Novartis internal and want to go for rep position, it is CONTRACT for the first year at least so you would be Ventiv employee not Novartis which is why they are not directly interviewing internally.... Managers will be Novartis direct hire but NOT REPS
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THIS IS BS.

Look at the postings on Ventiv. It says direct hire in the job description.
 






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FYI If you are Novartis internal and want to go for rep position, it is CONTRACT for the first year at least so you would be Ventiv employee not Novartis which is why they are not directly interviewing internally.... Managers will be Novartis direct hire but NOT REPS
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You are total BS as previous posts states!!

Another thing. Novartis Vaccines & Diagnostics, Inc. is the company. If you are at Novartis pharma then moving to vaccines IS NOT an internal issue. Name is same because of business reasons, but they are separate entities. Vaccine experience should be the over riding consideration and it looks like it is!
Shame on company trying to be successful for all of you liberals that want first priority.
 












The whole point is this.. If you are a current PC rep with Novartis this would be a lateral move! Why does the company need to disrupt the current pharma sales force to laterally move them to vaccines??
 












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The whole point is this.. If you are a current PC rep with Novartis this would be a lateral move! Why does the company need to disrupt the current pharma sales force to laterally move them to vaccines??
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Absolutely not and even if it was, try asking 100 Novartis pcp reps which position they would rather have. A PED position selling a vaccine and not calling on pcp's anymore or stick to their current position of selling to pcp's? I'll bet close to 90% would rather be involved in the new vaccine sales force. Fuck Novartis for not even allowing an internal rep to post let alone interview for the positions. What's my motivation for continuing to give Novartis everything that I have if I can't even acquire the personal and professional growth and development that Novartis likes to claim they offer? I'll take my chances somewhere else and that is why I'm looking full-time on my full-time salary that Novartis is paying me so I guess it all works out in the end, right? Use that company car gas and miles to drive to my interviews, kinkos for new resumes which I expense and yada, yada!
 






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Absolutely not and even if it was, try asking 100 Novartis pcp reps which position they would rather have. A PED position selling a vaccine and not calling on pcp's anymore or stick to their current position of selling to pcp's? I'll bet close to 90% would rather be involved in the new vaccine sales force. Fuck Novartis for not even allowing an internal rep to post let alone interview for the positions. What's my motivation for continuing to give Novartis everything that I have if I can't even acquire the personal and professional growth and development that Novartis likes to claim they offer? I'll take my chances somewhere else and that is why I'm looking full-time on my full-time salary that Novartis is paying me so I guess it all works out in the end, right? Use that company car gas and miles to drive to my interviews, kinkos for new resumes which I expense and yada, yada!
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Try coming over to the "new and disimproved" MViD. Only problem is- so many tablet folks are going down on Monday there will be nothing for those from the outside.
 












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new Vaccine Manager here - We haven't been told that we can't interview a Novartis employee. Who is giving you this information?
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My manager has told me this. These rep positions have been posted on Ventiv for five weeks now and still are not posted on Novartis' intranet job board. So what do you think?Besides, would it really matter to you? Anybody with a brain knows that you and all of the other "vaccine" managers from either Merck, Glaxo or SP vaccines are going to hire your own, right? If you say no, then your a fucking liar just Novartis has been with very qualified and deserving internal reps with all of that people-first and we want to promote personal and professional growth bullshit yet, we can't even post for these positions let alone actually interview for them!
 






Actually it does matter to me. I want to hire the best candidate and I don't want an entire team from my old company. I might hire a select few of my "own" but I simply want the best candidate out there. I understand your anger but I would hire you if you were the most qualified. The attitude would need to be checked at the door though. No need to lump us all together! It was your company first and I didn't make the rules.
 






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Actually it does matter to me. I want to hire the best candidate and I don't want an entire team from my old company. I might hire a select few of my "own" but I simply want the best candidate out there. I understand your anger but I would hire you if you were the most qualified. The attitude would need to be checked at the door though. No need to lump us all together! It was your company first and I didn't make the rules.
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Really?? Three out of the four RSD's are from the outside. The one internal RSD who was displaced back in October got the other RSD position and what did he do with hiring? He hired all managers from current vaccine companies...didn't even take care of some of his own, especially qualified ones. He should look at himself in the mirror! There is no doubt in Novartis reps minds that the reps will be brought in from the outside. Why haven't they even posted these rep positions on the Novartis intranet...because they don't want Novartis reps getting any of these jobs. You don't understand my anger and I'll never check my attitude at the door so forget about that. By they way, are you are full of shit if you claim that internal/external candidate doesn't really matter to you because you want the person already selling vaccines, right? Come clean, you jerk! All managers hired throughout the country were current managers from other vaccine companies so what does that say about this process? Your so full of shit, man!
 






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Laternal move? I'm sure this is a promotion.
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Check again. Wyeth, Merk and GSK are all rep level positions not promoted positions. I am not sure about Sanofi but I would have to think it is the same.

There is no question that a PCP rep from any company would love to change to vaccines. Pediatrics is the best specialty to call on. Access, friendly, diect selling Vs sample dropping.

Again, why would an organization want to move it's PCP reps from thier current position to a latertal move to vaccines?? They would not. Makes no business sense.
 






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Really?? Three out of the four RSD's are from the outside. The one internal RSD who was displaced back in October got the other RSD position and what did he do with hiring? He hired all managers from current vaccine companies...didn't even take care of some of his own, especially qualified ones. He should look at himself in the mirror! There is no doubt in Novartis reps minds that the reps will be brought in from the outside. Why haven't they even posted these rep positions on the Novartis intranet...because they don't want Novartis reps getting any of these jobs. You don't understand my anger and I'll never check my attitude at the door so forget about that. By they way, are you are full of shit if you claim that internal/external candidate doesn't really matter to you because you want the person already selling vaccines, right? Come clean, you jerk! All managers hired throughout the country were current managers from other vaccine companies so what does that say about this process? Your so full of shit, man!
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Listen up. I work in vaccines with another company and the truth is there are some good and a couple of great reps here but I would not hire 80-90% of them. It is the same with any sales group. The top 10-15% of any sales group are the true top perfromers. The new DM's will be selecting the best talent available. And these days there is a ton of top talent due to the industry downsizing. Account Managers, Hospital Reps, Oncology, device, direct sales from other industries will all be in play. Vaccines expereince is necessary for each distict but not every person will have vaccines experience. If you have been in PCP and in pod/mirror for years, you will have to differentiate yourself in a major way to get one of these positions. Managers will be looking for the best of the best!
 






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Listen up. I work in vaccines with another company and the truth is there are some good and a couple of great reps here but I would not hire 80-90% of them. It is the same with any sales group. The top 10-15% of any sales group are the true top perfromers. The new DM's will be selecting the best talent available. And these days there is a ton of top talent due to the industry downsizing. Account Managers, Hospital Reps, Oncology, device, direct sales from other industries will all be in play. Vaccines expereince is necessary for each distict but not every person will have vaccines experience. If you have been in PCP and in pod/mirror for years, you will have to differentiate yourself in a major way to get one of these positions. Managers will be looking for the best of the best!
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Whatever A-hole. Keep telling yourself whatever it is that you want. I'm sure that those 80-90% reps wouldn't want to work for you anyway!
 






Why would a Wyeth, Merck, GSK, or SA Immunization rep leave for this job? Sounds risky given that the FDA could delay the launch of the product (which happens all of the time) and leave you unemployed.

Unless this new opportunity were to pay a lot of money, I'm staying put. Any word on compensation for reps? That is the bottom line. I've never really met a Vaccine rep in my area that wasn't happy where they are (including me), but always would welcome more money.
 






If you're a vaccine rep you know as well as I do that companies know if they're getting approval within 3 months out. They wouldn't be pulling in all of this talent if this thing was going belly up. ACIP has been eagerly awaiting this vaccine since the head to head data against Menactra was published. Ventiv has the compensation structure.
 






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Check again. Wyeth, Merk and GSK are all rep level positions not promoted positions. I am not sure about Sanofi but I would have to think it is the same.

There is no question that a PCP rep from any company would love to change to vaccines. Pediatrics is the best specialty to call on. Access, friendly, diect selling Vs sample dropping.

Again, why would an organization want to move it's PCP reps from thier current position to a latertal move to vaccines?? They would not. Makes no business sense.
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at merck, the vaccine rep job calling on peds is a specialty job, so it is a promotion. i would think most comanies would consider it a promotion over your everyday primary care rep job out there.
 






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