Don't you get it? All those indications are just tools get MJ/Zepbound insurance coverage ... has nothing to do with sales force.
And also nothing to do with concern for patients, but rather building leverage for drug plan formulary.
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And also nothing to do with concern for patients, but rather building leverage for drug plan formulary.
Word on the street is Obesity spec is getting cut. Think about it.... 3 AVPs gone, Given lunch budgets for the remainder of the year and now no more lunches for the rest of the year. Cmon guys the writing is on the wall
I'd agree. But I don't think PC1/PC2 goes unscathed. There are still too many.
If that’s the case and I do agree with you, why don’t you think they were cut with CC&I?
It’s about time. They have no product. BI has Jar/contract. PC1 and 2 have Zep. There was no need for them overlapping with PC1 and 2 anyways. It was wayyyy too much. If that’s the case why does Lilly spend the money to send them to their in person September meetings? It makes no sense, but then cut their lunch budget for rest of year?
There are around 370 Obesity Spec reps, so I don't see a complete layoff of every one of them; maybe down to 200, or even half, and definitely some cuts in the PC division too. Every division at Lilly is getting "touched"; this isn't just a DBU change.
^^^THIS. I have a plug at the home office in Indy and this is what he has heard as well.
I agree with ya. There is a job that was just posted in Workday for an AVP US Obesity for Oral Incretins. They aren’t all gonna be gone.
What else has your plug heard? Curious minds wanna know.
Agreed. but they seem the safest at the moment
They haven’t been touched in years and just do duel lunches. Having 3-5 in area Thats a lot of fat to trim.
That’s the smartest thing I’ve seen on this board in 22 years.
️You missed the biggest one. If you have a not meets on your EPM. START LOOKING NOW
A race to the bottom on pricing and rebates. You’re all expendable
They are the only salesforce that have MJ in their bags though and now have Zep. The two biggest products. They may only need one in some geographies but definitely not three so the overlap, pc3, obesity spec whatever the hell their name is who basically don’t even have a product doesn’t need to be there. Lilly knew exactly what they were doing. Gave PC3 Zep to launch so PC1/2 could continue launching MJ, then gave them Zep to flood the market even more. Now it’s just not needed and can weed out another sleeve. Zep sells itself
Agreed, but are there reps who actually have a “not meets” with district goals these past few years? If so they just really suck lol
I had a not meets in 2022 because of an unfortunate sample issue but not in 2023, will that hurt me?
yes big time, I think they look up to 7 years back to see if there are any DNM