These layoffs are different than in 2008. I was laid off from CVM 11/22 after 20+ years. Many were up for President Circle and had multiple years of above average year end reviews (I was one of them). This seemed to look at employees that are costing the company money, now and in the future. Old pension growing at 4% for those 55-62, those close to getting medical with their pension. When I spoke with global services I was told I was in the system as severance/retirement. Nothing mentioning I was laid off. So think that is how they are getting by not announcing major layoffs. When you receive the packet with the ages retained vs released it looks fair. However, when start to research many were older with only a few years with company or weren’t old pension employees.