Medical Sales College. Is it for Real?

Seems like I need to check everyday! More MSC graduates are placed...
1,000 placements may come sooner than expected! Go MSC!!
Congratulations to the recent placements!



Medical Sales College
Congratulations to Glenn O., who accepted a position today where he will be representing SpineSmith products along with biologics. We know how hard you've worked for the opportunity, Glenn, so we wish you nothing but the best!

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Medical Sales College
It's official... Stephanie L., a Class 114 Spine grad, has accepted a position with Spartan Medical and will be selling spinal hardware along with a big bag of neuro and biologic products. Stephanie started conversations with her distributor before coming to Denver, but wrapped it all up just 10 days since graduating. We can't wait to hear about your continued successes! Congrats!

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Jaime Martinez Way to get it done Steph. Boom!!!
March 23 at 12:51pm · Like


Medical Sales College
They keep rolling in... Congratulations to Josh K., another Academy graduate, who has just accepted a position with Wright Medical Technology! That makes 3 grads in 4 days going to this top orthopedic company... Way to go, Josh!

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Adam Roberts Congrats buddy!
March 23 at 6:57am · Like

Lindsay Sooby Great job Josh!!!
Saturday at 10:57am · Like


Medical Sales College
Great news from Mark D., a Class 110 graduate, who has accepted a position with Wright Medical Technology - just 6 weeks since graduating! We're as "stoked" as you are! Congrats!

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Seems like I need to check everyday! More MSC graduates are placed...
1,000 placements may come sooner than expected! Go MSC!!
Congratulations to the recent placements!



Medical Sales College
Congratulations to Glenn O., who accepted a position today where he will be representing SpineSmith products along with biologics. We know how hard you've worked for the opportunity, Glenn, so we wish you nothing but the best!

Like · · Share · March 22 at 6:23pm ·
Sabrina Morin and 2 others like this.


Medical Sales College
It's official... Stephanie L., a Class 114 Spine grad, has accepted a position with Spartan Medical and will be selling spinal hardware along with a big bag of neuro and biologic products. Stephanie started conversations with her distributor before coming to Denver, but wrapped it all up just 10 days since graduating. We can't wait to hear about your continued successes! Congrats!

Like · · Share · March 22 at 12:58pm ·
3 people like this.

Jaime Martinez Way to get it done Steph. Boom!!!
March 23 at 12:51pm · Like


Medical Sales College
They keep rolling in... Congratulations to Josh K., another Academy graduate, who has just accepted a position with Wright Medical Technology! That makes 3 grads in 4 days going to this top orthopedic company... Way to go, Josh!

Like · · Share · March 22 at 12:01pm ·
5 people like this.


Adam Roberts Congrats buddy!
March 23 at 6:57am · Like

Lindsay Sooby Great job Josh!!!
Saturday at 10:57am · Like


Medical Sales College
Great news from Mark D., a Class 110 graduate, who has accepted a position with Wright Medical Technology - just 6 weeks since graduating! We're as "stoked" as you are! Congrats!

Like · · Share · March 21 at 5:22pm ·
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Anyone can fabricate a list of success stories. I wouldn't trust this school for a second.
 








Anyone can fabricate a list of success stories. I wouldn't trust this school for a second.

Are you saying they have fabricated a list of hundreds? So they made false linkedin pages, networked in some cases with more than 500 connections on each page, made false facebook pages, invited hundreds of false friends to those pages and took more false facebook pages and responded to false facebook pages all while being a state licensed college?

SURE!!!!!!!

MSC works... your agenda continues to be exposed!
 








Are you saying they have fabricated a list of hundreds? So they made false linkedin pages, networked in some cases with more than 500 connections on each page, made false facebook pages, invited hundreds of false friends to those pages and took more false facebook pages and responded to false facebook pages all while being a state licensed college?

SURE!!!!!!!

MSC works... your agenda continues to be exposed!

Wouldn't doubt it. Like Tiffany said on Ripoff Report, if a school has to try so hard to prove that it is not a scam, then there is already something wrong.
 








Wouldn't doubt it. Like Tiffany said on Ripoff Report, if a school has to try so hard to prove that it is not a scam, then there is already something wrong.

I haven't seen where the school has tried to prove anything. Remember, the college is placing graduates on a daily basis. A top three company invites MSC to present at their NSM and that is on video along with an endorsement from the company!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZKbsa1xPFE

A recent poster linked several other national publications supporting MSC. My reasoning for being on here is that I am a student and YOU obviously take issue with the success of the college and US students!!!!! You can only be one of three things:

A recruiter - This makes logical sense seeming that you have lost as an industry a TON of business to MSC. Why would a device company hire from a recruiter and pay $15,000 when the can hire a graduate that has been trained for free? They also can reduce if not eliminate hiring mistakes/challenges because they college has had us for eight weeks!

A former student - It is well known that every graduate doesn't get placed. Even at the 81% placement figure that would leave 19% that didn't get placed. I am certain that a couple are not happy when all their friends through MSC received offers

An idiot - This is my guess from your endless stupid responses specifically claiming that a state licensed college is not legit when they place more graduates than the next 20 recruiters combined.

Get a life - Steve or Tiffany or any other made up name you are using now!
 








I haven't seen where the school has tried to prove anything. Remember, the college is placing graduates on a daily basis. A top three company invites MSC to present at their NSM and that is on video along with an endorsement from the company!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZKbsa1xPFE

A recent poster linked several other national publications supporting MSC. My reasoning for being on here is that I am a student and YOU obviously take issue with the success of the college and US students!!!!! You can only be one of three things:

A recruiter - This makes logical sense seeming that you have lost as an industry a TON of business to MSC. Why would a device company hire from a recruiter and pay $15,000 when the can hire a graduate that has been trained for free? They also can reduce if not eliminate hiring mistakes/challenges because they college has had us for eight weeks!

A former student - It is well known that every graduate doesn't get placed. Even at the 81% placement figure that would leave 19% that didn't get placed. I am certain that a couple are not happy when all their friends through MSC received offers

An idiot - This is my guess from your endless stupid responses specifically claiming that a state licensed college is not legit when they place more graduates than the next 20 recruiters combined.

Get a life - Steve or Tiffany or any other made up name you are using now!

The only way you can claim you are an MSC student is by virtue of the fact that many or all EliteMed-MSC employees and owners are automatically "MSC students."

And no, I'm not Tiffany, but I do agree with her point that no legit college has to defend itself daily against SCAM allegations. Also, hiring managers are beginning to realize that MSC is just another for-profit school that produces low quality graduates.
 








The only way you can claim you are an MSC student is by virtue of the fact that many or all EliteMed-MSC employees and owners are automatically "MSC students."

And no, I'm not Tiffany, but I do agree with her point that no legit college has to defend itself daily against SCAM allegations. Also, hiring managers are beginning to realize that MSC is just another for-profit school that produces low quality graduates.

You have admitted that you have not attended the school, you were "scammed" by the recruitment arm that tried to sell you the school while you were applying for a new job. Correct?

NOW you know all the hiring managers and their thoughts? Sure you do!

Finally, since the ripoff report seems to be your favorite, try entering "colleges" and you will see more than 2,000 reports. MSC has 1 and that was from you who didn't even attend...
 








You have admitted that you have not attended the school, you were "scammed" by the recruitment arm that tried to sell you the school while you were applying for a new job. Correct?

NOW you know all the hiring managers and their thoughts? Sure you do!

Finally, since the ripoff report seems to be your favorite, try entering "colleges" and you will see more than 2,000 reports. MSC has 1 and that was from you who didn't even attend...

It looks like a scam, it smells like a scam then it probably is a scam. I notice 20+ pages of complaints againt the aims organization, mention of securities fraud and 7+ pages of complaints on the medical sales college. Trust doesn't seem to be a fundamental at the college...
Just sayin...
 








I believe the Ripoff Report on MSC since ALL of the educational complaints on that website are against FOR-PROFIT schools. The fact the there are literally hundreds of online scam allegations against MSC really tells me that something is wrong with that school. I wouldn't give them a penny, let alone invest $10,000 on their silly medical sales certificate.
 
















Seems like I need to check everyday! More MSC graduates are placed...
1,000 placements may come sooner than expected! Go MSC!!
Congratulations to the recent placements!



Medical Sales College
Congratulations to Glenn O., who accepted a position today where he will be representing SpineSmith products along with biologics. We know how hard you've worked for the opportunity, Glenn, so we wish you nothing but the best!

Like · · Share · March 22 at 6:23pm ·
Sabrina Morin and 2 others like this.


Medical Sales College
It's official... Stephanie L., a Class 114 Spine grad, has accepted a position with Spartan Medical and will be selling spinal hardware along with a big bag of neuro and biologic products. Stephanie started conversations with her distributor before coming to Denver, but wrapped it all up just 10 days since graduating. We can't wait to hear about your continued successes! Congrats!

Like · · Share · March 22 at 12:58pm ·
3 people like this.

Jaime Martinez Way to get it done Steph. Boom!!!
March 23 at 12:51pm · Like


Medical Sales College
They keep rolling in... Congratulations to Josh K., another Academy graduate, who has just accepted a position with Wright Medical Technology! That makes 3 grads in 4 days going to this top orthopedic company... Way to go, Josh!

Like · · Share · March 22 at 12:01pm ·
5 people like this.


Adam Roberts Congrats buddy!
March 23 at 6:57am · Like

Lindsay Sooby Great job Josh!!!
Saturday at 10:57am · Like


Medical Sales College
Great news from Mark D., a Class 110 graduate, who has accepted a position with Wright Medical Technology - just 6 weeks since graduating! We're as "stoked" as you are! Congrats!

Like · · Share · March 21 at 5:22pm ·
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ANOTHER DAY - TWO MORE PLACEMENTS

Medical Sales College
Another placement with US MedProviders... Congrats to Brett Ford, a recent Spine grad who "sealed the deal" in 8 weeks! We wish you much success!

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Medical Sales College
Congratulations to Noah C. who has landed a position with OmniGuide, a privately-held medical device company specializing in laser technologies for the surgical suite. Great job and best of luck, Noah!

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ANOTHER DAY - TWO MORE PLACEMENTS

Medical Sales College
Another placement with US MedProviders... Congrats to Brett Ford, a recent Spine grad who "sealed the deal" in 8 weeks! We wish you much success!

Like · · Share · 23 hours ago ·
Dana Angel Swann and 2 others like this.


Medical Sales College
Congratulations to Noah C. who has landed a position with OmniGuide, a privately-held medical device company specializing in laser technologies for the surgical suite. Great job and best of luck, Noah!

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All no-name distributor placements. How long do your graduates remain in their positions? My guess is, not long. Also, none of the medical device manufacturers currently see any value to Medical Sales College. Many hiring managers now know MSC is a scam.
 
















I knew it wasn't real when Mr. Roger, CEO, came on the board to defend his company. No CEO would do that. I've read this site, and it sickens me to see how these scam colleges promise naive people the moon. They always fail to deliver. Please spare me all those fake testimonials. I commend the individual for coming forward about this issue.

And Mr. Roger, please feel free to reply to my post anytime about accreditation.

I wrote the above statement. Could anyone explain to me how all these "colleges" are related? I know its been explained but the sheer volume of fake testimonals makes it impossible to find that information. The CEO, etc. have no business coming on this site in an effort to promote his college to reps. who might be vulnerable because of fear of losing their current jobs.
 
































I wrote the above statement. Could anyone explain to me how all these "colleges" are related? I know its been explained but the sheer volume of fake testimonals makes it impossible to find that information. The CEO, etc. have no business coming on this site in an effort to promote his college to reps. who might be vulnerable because of fear of losing their current jobs.

Orthopaedic and spine hiring managers are constantly searching for aggressive, talented sales people to sell and support surgical implants. Unfortunately, because of the specialized vocabulary and rules regarding the operating room, these hiring managers are forced to hire from within the ranks of existing sales reps.

Or, at least, they used to be.

Medical Sales College changes all of that with a curriculum based on rigorous academic training, coupled with hands-on instrument and implant study, added to interactive, role-play based sales training. All of this combines to create orthopaedic and spine sales reps ready to hit the ground running...immediately.

The Very Beginning

In 2006, Jim R. Rogers, who would go on to found medical sales education, was working as a Vice President of Sales for a large orthopaedic medical device company when he was given a task which is considered by many to be the most difficult assignment in orthopaedics: Jim was charged with building a direct sales force to lay alongside the company's already existing Distributor-based sales force.

The intricacies of this type of change, coupled with the practical need to hire over 120 sales and management personnel "yesterday," led to an 18 month journey that involved reviewing over 12,000 resumes and conducting more than 2,000 personal interviews in cities large and small across America. One outcome of this search was a corporate division that outperformed the existing structure on every measurement criteria.

For Jim, however, the more important outcome was the opportunity to experience first-hand, every day for 18 months, one of the biggest problems in the orthopaedic and spine sales industry – that of hiring great sales representatives. It was the lessons learned during this time and later filtered through the grid of countless hours of research with surgeons, industry executives, and top performing sales reps, that led to the formation of the Medical Sales College.

Problems In Hiring

Medical device sales professionals, unique in the world of sales, are an integral part of the implantation of the products they sell. They stand with a surgical team in surgery, often as the expert-in-the-room who knows better than anyone else the nuances and intricacies of the surgical instruments and implants. So, while the job they are being hired for is sales, to adequately perform that job, they also need to know how to function in an operating room environment, how to converse with medical professionals, and how their devices will impact a patient's anatomy, pathology, biomechanics, and function. This is no small task, and a very difficult combination of skills and knowledge for a hiring manager to assess during the hiring process.

On the other hand, like many businesses, orthopaedic and spine hiring managers are often compelled by business realities to make extremely quick hiring decisions. Given the background information necessary to be able to service the devices in the operating room, it can be impossible for any company to take sales professionals from outside the business and bring them up to speed quickly enough, so the hiring manager is often forced to choose people with previous medical device experience.

As Jim travelled the country hiring hundreds of sales representatives, he often found himself in the position of having to pass on the best sales person in favor of someone who could navigate the operating room environment and the conversational requirements more quickly. Great salesmen and saleswomen were not given the opportunity, simply because they lacked the industry background to be immediately useful. So, while there is always concern when hiring someone with experience – in a commission-based, relationship business, one could question why a sales rep is available if he or she is so strong – it is an unfortunate necessity.

The Medical Sales College is Created

When Jim left his position as Vice President of Sales, leaving behind a strong, vibrant sales organization, he determined to solve this industry-wide hiring challenge. In the fall of 2008, Jim contacted a handful of industry professionals, and together they formed an educational institution dedicated to providing competent sales professionals with the background and training necessary to translate the success they have had in other sales arenas into the world of orthopaedic and medical device sales.

Simultaneously, Jim began what would later be known as AMSR Medical Sales Recruiting to take these highly trained individuals and help them to find opportunities to sell within the medical device arena. These candidates, having already shown their dedication to their own careers by investing in their training at The Medical Sales College, were well received by the industry hungry for new, outside talent.

The training and recruiting services, originally located in Memphis, quickly outgrew the original space due to this industry acceptance. In the Spring of 2009, the medical sales educational platform and AMSR Medical Sales Recruiting moved to beautiful Colorado to open the world-class training facilities in Denver. There, in its elaborate training center located near the base of the Rocky Mountains, the Medical Sales College trains small classes of motivated professionals to be the best medical sales representatives in the business.

The Medical Sales College alleviated the challenge that Jim faced and other hiring managers continue to face trying to hire competent sales professionals but being limited in their selection to people from inside the business. Now, the horizon of potential candidates has been dramatically expanded for medical device hiring managers, giving them access to the countless individuals with sales skills but no industry knowledge, motivated people who have added to their repertoire a practical understanding of how to succeed in this arena.

Using the same rigorous, hands-on, conversation-based training that has made MSC graduates so successful, MSC Corporate Training programs have transformed the way sales representatives and their managers think about the sales process. Built around the proprietary Dynamic Psychological Selling® system, these training programs are tailored to the needs of each individual company and each individual sales representative. Sales reps leave these programs with the practical tools and training to take their territories to much higher levels, both in terms of sales volume and in terms of professionalism in their relationships with surgeons, hospitals, and the health care industry.
 








Orthopaedic and spine hiring managers are constantly searching for aggressive, talented sales people to sell and support surgical implants. Unfortunately, because of the specialized vocabulary and rules regarding the operating room, these hiring managers are forced to hire from within the ranks of existing sales reps.

Or, at least, they used to be.

Medical Sales College changes all of that with a curriculum based on rigorous academic training, coupled with hands-on instrument and implant study, added to interactive, role-play based sales training. All of this combines to create orthopaedic and spine sales reps ready to hit the ground running...immediately.

The Very Beginning

In 2006, Jim R. Rogers, who would go on to found medical sales education, was working as a Vice President of Sales for a large orthopaedic medical device company when he was given a task which is considered by many to be the most difficult assignment in orthopaedics: Jim was charged with building a direct sales force to lay alongside the company's already existing Distributor-based sales force.

The intricacies of this type of change, coupled with the practical need to hire over 120 sales and management personnel "yesterday," led to an 18 month journey that involved reviewing over 12,000 resumes and conducting more than 2,000 personal interviews in cities large and small across America. One outcome of this search was a corporate division that outperformed the existing structure on every measurement criteria.

For Jim, however, the more important outcome was the opportunity to experience first-hand, every day for 18 months, one of the biggest problems in the orthopaedic and spine sales industry – that of hiring great sales representatives. It was the lessons learned during this time and later filtered through the grid of countless hours of research with surgeons, industry executives, and top performing sales reps, that led to the formation of the Medical Sales College.

Problems In Hiring

Medical device sales professionals, unique in the world of sales, are an integral part of the implantation of the products they sell. They stand with a surgical team in surgery, often as the expert-in-the-room who knows better than anyone else the nuances and intricacies of the surgical instruments and implants. So, while the job they are being hired for is sales, to adequately perform that job, they also need to know how to function in an operating room environment, how to converse with medical professionals, and how their devices will impact a patient's anatomy, pathology, biomechanics, and function. This is no small task, and a very difficult combination of skills and knowledge for a hiring manager to assess during the hiring process.

On the other hand, like many businesses, orthopaedic and spine hiring managers are often compelled by business realities to make extremely quick hiring decisions. Given the background information necessary to be able to service the devices in the operating room, it can be impossible for any company to take sales professionals from outside the business and bring them up to speed quickly enough, so the hiring manager is often forced to choose people with previous medical device experience.

As Jim travelled the country hiring hundreds of sales representatives, he often found himself in the position of having to pass on the best sales person in favor of someone who could navigate the operating room environment and the conversational requirements more quickly. Great salesmen and saleswomen were not given the opportunity, simply because they lacked the industry background to be immediately useful. So, while there is always concern when hiring someone with experience – in a commission-based, relationship business, one could question why a sales rep is available if he or she is so strong – it is an unfortunate necessity.

The Medical Sales College is Created

When Jim left his position as Vice President of Sales, leaving behind a strong, vibrant sales organization, he determined to solve this industry-wide hiring challenge. In the fall of 2008, Jim contacted a handful of industry professionals, and together they formed an educational institution dedicated to providing competent sales professionals with the background and training necessary to translate the success they have had in other sales arenas into the world of orthopaedic and medical device sales.

Simultaneously, Jim began what would later be known as AMSR Medical Sales Recruiting to take these highly trained individuals and help them to find opportunities to sell within the medical device arena. These candidates, having already shown their dedication to their own careers by investing in their training at The Medical Sales College, were well received by the industry hungry for new, outside talent.

The training and recruiting services, originally located in Memphis, quickly outgrew the original space due to this industry acceptance. In the Spring of 2009, the medical sales educational platform and AMSR Medical Sales Recruiting moved to beautiful Colorado to open the world-class training facilities in Denver. There, in its elaborate training center located near the base of the Rocky Mountains, the Medical Sales College trains small classes of motivated professionals to be the best medical sales representatives in the business.

The Medical Sales College alleviated the challenge that Jim faced and other hiring managers continue to face trying to hire competent sales professionals but being limited in their selection to people from inside the business. Now, the horizon of potential candidates has been dramatically expanded for medical device hiring managers, giving them access to the countless individuals with sales skills but no industry knowledge, motivated people who have added to their repertoire a practical understanding of how to succeed in this arena.

Using the same rigorous, hands-on, conversation-based training that has made MSC graduates so successful, MSC Corporate Training programs have transformed the way sales representatives and their managers think about the sales process. Built around the proprietary Dynamic Psychological Selling® system, these training programs are tailored to the needs of each individual company and each individual sales representative. Sales reps leave these programs with the practical tools and training to take their territories to much higher levels, both in terms of sales volume and in terms of professionalism in their relationships with surgeons, hospitals, and the health care industry.

GO Jim and MSC!! You guys Rock!!