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I got an offer. I tired to negotiate because I am currently making 75 base with my company. The recruiter and hiring manager knew this from our past conversations. I can tell you that I played the game and held out trying to get them to at least match 75K base, and the most they said they could do is 68K. I just sent my email turning down the position. I am sure everyone will have different numbers told to them, but I really think 65 will be the avg. for this position and it is not based on where you live. Good luck to those of you who move forward with this position. I was not really sold on the idea of contract and a new company launching a new drug. The interview was pretty standard and they wanted me to show my relationships in my territory. When they found out that I know all of the key customers, they got really excited. This will be a relationship type of sale and they know it won't work any other way. BTW, the recruiters are not very professional-I know this is not new news, but part of the reason I am walking away is the thought of working with people who don't have a clue.
 






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I got an offer. I tired to negotiate because I am currently making 75 base with my company. The recruiter and hiring manager knew this from our past conversations. I can tell you that I played the game and held out trying to get them to at least match 75K base, and the most they said they could do is 68K. I just sent my email turning down the position. I am sure everyone will have different numbers told to them, but I really think 65 will be the avg. for this position and it is not based on where you live. Good luck to those of you who move forward with this position. I was not really sold on the idea of contract and a new company launching a new drug. The interview was pretty standard and they wanted me to show my relationships in my territory. When they found out that I know all of the key customers, they got really excited. This will be a relationship type of sale and they know it won't work any other way. BTW, the recruiters are not very professional-I know this is not new news, but part of the reason I am walking away is the thought of working with people who don't have a clue.
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What territory?
 






my experience is if you don't hear the next day you are out. it is unfortunate that spineless managers would leave candidates hanging but it is the way they operate in pharma u can call manager directly but most are so incompetent they won't even get back to u good luck either way
 






If offered a position would everyone agree this is a great way to get your foot in the door with pharma?
I am under no illusions that this would last past a year or two at the most. Thinking its a great way to break in?
 












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If offered a position would everyone agree this is a great way to get your foot in the door with pharma?
I am under no illusions that this would last past a year or two at the most. Thinking its a great way to break in?
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Yes. If it turns out to be a gold mine great. If not you got experience to move up. The question is do you realize pharma will be dead in 5 years anyway?
 






























Why on earth would a manager settle for inexperience when there are so many seasoned reps unemployed right now? The only scenario where that would make any logical sense is a salary match issue. There were plenty of reps with experience that did not make it to interviews. ???
 












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Seasoned reps can be lazy, no surprise there. Newbies can be molded and trained accordingly.
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Anyone can be lazy! That has zero to do with experience level. If anyone knows how to be trained in pharmaceuticals it is the reps that know the drill and can hit the ground running. Plus, I thought relationships were so important. That is something that newbies obviously do not have. Again, to pick people with zero experience over folks that have a proven track record is a decision that is based on pure ignorance.
 






Maybe managers detected the entitlement attitude that reps have today and their arrogance that they are important in the Field. So sick of these reps...fake fingernails and boobs...worrying about how short their skirt can get. Makes me sick this business use to mean something. Now it's a dumbed down job any trained monkey can do. Get over yourself and your self imposed worth if you fit this description.
 






I am shocked, but sounds like par for the course per posts here. I am a VERY experienced rep with established relationships and rapport with specialists and PC and have launched numerous products. I have sold NSAIDS, too! I did not make it past the F2F. The manager that I would report to was very professional, but the other manager was arrogant, confrontational, and kept asking me the number of total reps when I won an award even 150 + years ago. I am happy that have a cool job, so I think that it is a blessing to avoid a micro-management nightmare that is hiring too many territories. Look what happened with Endo contract selling Voltaren Gel after 1 year 1/2 the reps downsized.
 






I think I must have interviewed with that same secondary person too. He was asking me crazy questions about numbers on the team from yrs back as well. Was he from TN area? Nice guy but questions had nothing to do with anything.
 






























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