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Sweet! Forward the profitability model, LRP, P/L, and effective discount rate 3-year projections to us. Also, please include the 6-month conversion rate and dollar loss on part d rebates for autoimmune products on formulary for the aforementioned payers. We need to know what dollars we must make up while avoiding antitrust violations, so throw in a portfolio COGS analysis too. Don’t forget to include your HHS negotiation analysis and how rebates from MFP products in class will supersede any ASP + 6% returns they may receive.

One more thing, send us your acid test and returns analysis to justify the payouts you requested. As always, we value your feedback.
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You idiot. That’s not the responsibility of a sales rep. lol. It’s the responsibility of the marketing team or whatever you want to call them. If they can’t get the job done, fire them and get people who can. Or admit you have no idea what you’re doing. You don’t try to put it on the sales team. lol. That’s why this company is going nowhere. The fact you thought what you wrote was smart shows the type of fools we have at FK. No wonder nothing is getting done. Moron. lol
 






anonymous said:
You idiot. That’s not the responsibility of a sales rep. lol. It’s the responsibility of the marketing team or whatever you want to call them. If they can’t get the job done, fire them and get people who can. Or admit you have no idea what you’re doing. You don’t try to put it on the sales team. lol. That’s why this company is going nowhere. The fact you thought what you wrote was smart shows the type of fools we have at FK. No wonder nothing is getting done. Moron. lol
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Thanks for your idiotic rejoinder, dumbass. Your directional-school Business 200 knowledge is useless when you need to make real decisions. Stick to your territory and shut the hell up. If we need to know which restaurants have the best take-out soup containers, we’ll pull you in.
 






anonymous said:
Thanks for your idiotic rejoinder, dumbass. Your directional-school Business 200 knowledge is useless when you need to make real decisions. Stick to your territory and shut the hell up. If we need to know which restaurants have the best take-out soup containers, we’ll pull you in.
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Said the person whose “real decision making Business 500 skills (algebra 100 \multiple regression analysis 101) ” haven’t resulted in any business. If I need an accurate weight based dosing card for a drug launch that’s been planned for years plus an additional year( late), I won’t pull you in. I’ll give the takeout waiter $20 and 3 years to get it right.
 






anonymous said:
Said the person whose “real decision making Business 500 skills (algebra 100 \multiple regression analysis 101) ” haven’t resulted in any business. If I need an accurate weight based dosing card for a drug launch that’s been planned for years plus an additional year( late), I won’t pull you in. I’ll give the takeout waiter $20 and 3 years to get it right.
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Thanks again, dumbass. You tried. You’re not bright. It’s okay.
 






God Bless CafePharma! Where else could you get such a robust exchange of ideas??? It really is an important team building tool that brings the inside people and the field so much closer.
 












anonymous said:
Sweet! Forward the profitability model, LRP, P/L, and effective discount rate 3-year projections to us. Also, please include the 6-month conversion rate and dollar loss on part d rebates for autoimmune products on formulary for the aforementioned payers. We need to know what dollars we must make up while avoiding antitrust violations, so throw in a portfolio COGS analysis too. Don’t forget to include your HHS negotiation analysis and how rebates from MFP products in class will supersede any ASP + 6% returns they may receive.

One more thing, send us your acid test and returns analysis to justify the payouts you requested. As always, we value your feedback.
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Yeah - that is not a sales reps job. Our job is to pull through the access opportunities (the realistic ones - not Medicare D nonsense) that our products are on formulary. We are on 0% of the commercial plans for Idacio. No one is saying that the above is not complicated, but to this point FK is is batting .000 on all plans. Explain to me how we are supposed to do our jobs with zero opportunities?
 






anonymous said:
Yeah - that is not a sales reps job. Our job is to pull through the access opportunities (the realistic ones - not Medicare D nonsense) that our products are on formulary. We are on 0% of the commercial plans for Idacio. No one is saying that the above is not complicated, but to this point FK is is batting .000 on all plans. Explain to me how we are supposed to do our jobs with zero opportunities?
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Exactly. It is not the job of the sales reps to attain coverage for Idacio any more than it is the responsibility of the marketing team to sell idacio in the field. That person trying to sound smart is an absolute idiot. They clearly didn’t think thru what they wrote. That is why I gave them the rightful title of a “Moron.” The sales team cannot sell without coverage. We need commercial coverage. Simple.
 






anonymous said:
Exactly. It is not the job of the sales reps to attain coverage for Idacio any more than it is the responsibility of the marketing team to sell idacio in the field. That person trying to sound smart is an absolute idiot. They clearly didn’t think thru what they wrote. That is why I gave them the rightful title of a “Moron.” The sales team cannot sell without coverage. We need commercial coverage. Simple.
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You idiots are always the smartest in the room until your stupidity is put on display. You can’t close business, but it’s not your fault, when you are handheld to success, it was always how fervently you worked. Salespeople are always the best at every job except their own.
 






Yeah - there is no business to close. The fact that you think there is business to close is the problem. Once you get Idacio on formularies, then we will have something to talk about.
 






anonymous said:
You idiots are always the smartest in the room until your stupidity is put on display. You can’t close business, but it’s not your fault, when you are handheld to success, it was always how fervently you worked. Salespeople are always the best at every job except their own.
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Close on what Business?? This person is either and idiot or a troll. Bye
 






anonymous said:
Yeah - that is not a sales reps job. Our job is to pull through the access opportunities (the realistic ones - not Medicare D nonsense) that our products are on formulary. We are on 0% of the commercial plans for Idacio. No one is saying that the above is not complicated, but to this point FK is is batting .000 on all plans. Explain to me how we are supposed to do our jobs with zero opportunities?
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Stimufend is the same issue. No payer contracts no future. The payer team should be held accountable for the lack off access.
 






Wow Ali. I thought he was invested and Biosimilars were the future? I thought he was going to ride this thing till the end. At least that is the impression he gave. I get he has to do what he has to do. All the best to him. Can’t blame him. Soon as the right opportunity comes along I am jumping off the Titanic.
 






anonymous said:
Wow Ali. I thought he was invested and Biosimilars were the future? I thought he was going to ride this thing till the end. At least that is the impression he gave. I get he has to do what he has to do. All the best to him. Can’t blame him. Soon as the right opportunity comes along I am jumping off the Titanic.
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Last meeting he made a few cracks about some folks who decided to move on from the company, so yeah a lot of us are a bit shocked.
 






anonymous said:
Last meeting he made a few cracks about some folks who decided to move on from the company, so yeah a lot of us are a bit shocked.
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He sure did. And now he is the one leaving. I guess my shock or confusion comes fro statements like, “I am invested in the future of Biosimilars and FK.” Like hell you are. You’re leaving and taking your “invested self” elsewhere. Salesforce just need to get the hell outta here fast.
 












FK Management to sales team: VP and President of Biopharma have left FK in the same week but don’t worry, everything is on the up and up. Now let’s talk about how to look at Data and messaging in the field.
 






anonymous said:
He sure did. And now he is the one leaving. I guess my shock or confusion comes fro statements like, “I am invested in the future of Biosimilars and FK.” Like hell you are. You’re leaving and taking your “invested self” elsewhere. Salesforce just need to get the hell outta here fast.
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More changes are coming, this is just the beginning of several new changes before the end of Q2 2024.
 


















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