Esperion

[anonymous]

Has anyone from the Dallas interviews receive a call yet?

 

[anonymous]

Not yet

 

[anonymous]

I interviewed one day and was called the next am with an offer. From what I understand they go to a meeting that night to discuss interviews from that day. Get offers in order and call the next day.

 

[anonymous]

haha...so great. Sounds like the same shit on different days. Good luck selling this piece of shit weak ass drug. Come walking in with the 18% reduction, or 25% with Zetia. Not the 40% the fuck ass managers were touting.

What a bunch of clownies.

 

[anonymous]

You are correct. I am in the Interview process and it is unprofessional, insulting and degrading.
Manager's full of themselves. Came into the room where 5 of us were waiting and said " We had thousands of applications and you should be honored that you are part of the 3 candidates we have chosen to go to the next step ". And then you interview with these 2 ? I wanted to stop the interview in the first 5 minutes and change to an earlier flight home. Yes they want names and strategy. It was like a giant sucking of information.

10000% correct, I thought people who were in philly complaining about hotel were just being babies. Then in Dallas is was like that, I told the manager I didn’t think this would be a good fit for me. I walked to the airport and got a early flight home. I don’t need some manager who’s going to have unrealistic expectations, then micro manage me. Plus territory was twice the size then originally said. Please stop asking which doctors I know. We all started somewhere and didn’t know any, so stop. Please ask something more than STAR questions, get to know me. Please don’t act like being in the top 3 was so amazing. That being said, I’m sure it will be good for someone and if it’s more $$$ then there you go.

 

[anonymous]

10000% correct, I thought people who were in philly complaining about hotel were just being babies. Then in Dallas is was like that, I told the manager I didn’t think this would be a good fit for me. I walked to the airport and got a early flight home. I don’t need some manager who’s going to have unrealistic expectations, then micro manage me. Plus territory was twice the size then originally said. Please stop asking which doctors I know. We all started somewhere and didn’t know any, so stop. Please ask something more than STAR questions, get to know me. Please don’t act like being in the top 3 was so amazing. That being said, I’m sure it will be good for someone and if it’s more $$$ then there you go.

 

[anonymous]

What you need to do for anyone demanding rankings in the top 15% is to ask them for their latest 2-3 years of performance reviews.Thats right-ask the hiring manager what their rankings were in the past few years and have them provide documentation.These asshats show up and act like they are here because they were recruited away from a highly successful position previously.They are haggard old managers who've had a lot of jobs in their career.

How many of them would give you their performance evaluations? What a fuck joke.

 

[anonymous]

Previous poster is spot on. My phone screen consisted of, who do you, who’s going to be a good speaker or KOL at this hospital, that hospital, etc. Then congrats, you’re invited to face to face and BE SURE to have a good business plan. So, like so many others, I spent many hours putting it together, felt good about it and brought several copies. I didn’t get an offer, but think I would have felt used either way. Very disappointing process all around and now thinking I dodged a bullet. As many of my Praluent counterparts have commented, this will be a build the business up fast so that it’ll be positioned to be sold and investors can cash out. Nothing wrong with that, but don’t pretend to be something you’re not.

Was at a recent "hiring event". Was downsized at Regeneron and agressively recruited to attend. Ended up just filling a spot as there was no way they were going to pay me what I needed- they ended up hiring a candidate with limited CV experience for much less $$. Pretty sure I dodged a bullit. Several red flags: 1. Product: yeah, its "new" and "novel", but it's also uproven, with no compelling clinical data AND it's really just a Zetia knock off- the efficacy is no better. Lots of talk about the fixed dose combo, but they are initially launching the mono product only....if that bombs, will the fdc will follow? This drug will be going head-to-head with generic statins (the most proven drug class ever), ezetimibe (very well establsihed), PCSK9i- Amgen and Repatha, and soon, inclisiran, from Novartis- 2x/year, very cost effective, and the agent cardiologists are really waiting for. Sounds like an uphill battle- espeically for a start-up with limited $ and resources. 2. Process: the interview process was completely superficial- very little about the drug, clinical data (not much there) or disease state (other than something we already know: lots of people aren't at their LDL goals). Had 2 interviews and all they wanted to know was what I was going to do on day one, including the names of clinics and doctors I would call on, and, how many scripts I would bring in the first week, month and at 90 days. They want you to believe the culture won't be "big pharma" or about "metrics", but that's exectly what it will be- the pressure is going to be constant and intense. Furthermore, during the second interview, with a couple dudes who were supposed to be "regional" or "national" managers, they were feverishly writing down doctors names as I said them. When was the last time this happened to you in an interview? Lame? Desparate? Unprofessional? All of the above. 3. Company: from everyhting I can tell, they barely have enough capital to launch, and they are going to need huge Rx volume out of the gate to keep it going. Keep in mind- new company, one drug, competing in a crowded, highly competitive, highly clinical, cost sensitive space. Finally, and maybe most importantly, the whole thing is being run by LAWYERS- a handful of people who have invested (supposedly) 10 years of their lives into this thing. Bottom line: they want their time and money back ASAP, and they'll do/say anything to get the company to the point where they can sell it off, and that will be that. My take: be afriad and stay away.

 

[anonymous]

What you need to do for anyone demanding rankings in the top 15% is to ask them for their latest 2-3 years of performance reviews.Thats right-ask the hiring manager what their rankings were in the past few years and have them provide documentation.These asshats show up and act like they are here because they were recruited away from a highly successful position previously.They are haggard old managers who've had a lot of jobs in their career.

How many of them would give you their performance evaluations? What a fuck joke.

Most of these managers are jokes. They make it sound like they are God’s gift to biotech when a) they cane from “B” and “C” list companies and b) Esperion isn’t biotech... They have bounced around from company to company without actually accomplishing anything worth bragging about! How many year end trips have they won? How many promotions did they receive? That is what I thought.

 

[anonymous]

“Was downsized by Regeneron” Does that answer you’re egotistical know-it-all a$$

So by your response, you're either someone who received and "offer" to work for this clown show, or you're a "manager" who has purchased a ticket on the Esperion train to nowhere......either way, you're an A-dub. The entire Praluent sales force was "downsized", which is code for really poor leadership and no balls to go toe-to-toe with Amgen- but I digress. Bottom line: I know EVERY cardiologist and lipidologist in the territory (unlike to person who was "offered" the position) and NONE of them give a rats ass about bempedoic acid- it's nothing more than an unproven knock off of Zetia. Inclisiran will be the next big thing, and Esperion will be nothing more than a pimple on Novartis' ass. And, BTW, when it comes to my work and my territory, I DO know it all- exactly why I'll stay as far away from Esperion as possible.

 

[anonymous]

What you need to do for anyone demanding rankings in the top 15% is to ask them for their latest 2-3 years of performance reviews.Thats right-ask the hiring manager what their rankings were in the past few years and have them provide documentation.These asshats show up and act like they are here because they were recruited away from a highly successful position previously.They are haggard old managers who've had a lot of jobs in their career.

How many of them would give you their performance evaluations? What a fuck joke.

Classic!!!!

To interviewer: "Is it possible for me to get your previous managers name? Oh and yes may I see your previous year end review?" hahaha...thats hilarious. I so wished i had the balls to have said that to the cheesy fat ass manager who's in the west. You know, the fish oil guy

 

[anonymous]

Look... I agree w you about this being a shit show however when you’re starting a company or launching in a new space this is how it works. The interview process is a time to absorb important names and processes whether you’re going with that candidate or not. That’s the way it works in the start-up world interview process.

You're serious? To quote that great American, Biff: "Don't be so gullible, McFly"

 

[anonymous]

Here is some math to consider. They are hiring 300 reps, so add in dms, rms and various other hanger oners and the field force is at 350.

‘Now, let’s say the average cost per person is 150k per year (salary,bonus,healthcare,car,401k etc-) so the annual “nut” to support the force is about 52 million...

‘Now, assume the AWP is pegged at $ 350/mo (This is about what Zetia cost before it went Generic, they might be foolish enough to try to monkey around with a higher price but if they hope to get any managed care acceptance...) . Also, assume the net after rebates and manufacturing cost is half of AWP, or $175/mo....

To cover the “annual nut” each rep will need to generate about 1000 Rx/year.

I will gladly wager the most successful reps will be at about 100 Trx 12 months post launch.

It is going to be a slaughter.

 

[anonymous]

So by your response, you're either someone who received and "offer" to work for this clown show, or you're a "manager" who has purchased a ticket on the Esperion train to nowhere......either way, you're an A-dub. The entire Praluent sales force was "downsized", which is code for really poor leadership and no balls to go toe-to-toe with Amgen- but I digress. Bottom line: I know EVERY cardiologist and lipidologist in the territory (unlike to person who was "offered" the position) and NONE of them give a rats ass about bempedoic acid- it's nothing more than an unproven knock off of Zetia. Inclisiran will be the next big thing, and Esperion will be nothing more than a pimple on Novartis' ass. And, BTW, when it comes to my work and my territory, I DO know it all- exactly why I'll stay as far away from Esperion as possible.

I believe you. What I would do is tell all the lipidologists, primary care, and cardiologists within your territory and beyond to NOT even entertain these morons. As in block them. You may not even need to do that bc they’ll get thrown out for how laughable they are. Secondly, you’ll see them crawling around desperate beginning around April. These bird brains will fuck up their messaging. Guaranteed. They will probably make numerous unfounded claims out of desperation. They will speak beyond ARC. They will promise offices with nonexistent managed care in the pipe. Have your drs and all the staff have the FDA False Claims number handy. Haha. Lastly this is how immature the company is and the type of weak people they hire. Their new hires couldn’t even keep their mouth shuts. And when I mean new, they didn’t even receive offers yet. But they were literally bragging to random people at the hotel about how they’re friends with this manager and how he/she is basically doing them a favor. It was unbelievable. I heard one bitch as I was walking down the hallway through the damn wall! Yes Esperion these are the type of people you hired. Hey Tim did you know that? That some of these managers are that crazy that they’d rather put their own interests over the success of the company? Sad. So there you have it. There is a lot of that going on. Friends doing other friends a favor, etc. This is not a class-act company at all. They will get what’s coming to them.

 

[anonymous]

Here is some math to consider. They are hiring 300 reps, so add in dms, rms and various other hanger oners and the field force is at 350.

‘Now, let’s say the average cost per person is 150k per year (salary,bonus,healthcare,car,401k etc-) so the annual “nut” to support the force is about 52 million...

‘Now, assume the AWP is pegged at $ 350/mo (This is about what Zetia cost before it went Generic, they might be foolish enough to try to monkey around with a higher price but if they hope to get any managed care acceptance...) . Also, assume the net after rebates and manufacturing cost is half of AWP, or $175/mo....

To cover the “annual nut” each rep will need to generate about 1000 Rx/year.

I will gladly wager the most successful reps will be at about 100 Trx 12 months post launch.

It is going to be a slaughter.

Exactly. And even if there are pockets of territory that can achieve that, it won’t be enough to sustain the entire country. I came into this knowing that I will have a 1 to 1 1/2 year run tops before the layoffs start. Shit I even heard the manager who interviewed me is secretly interviewing at another company that my buddy works at. Do you think I put in a good word for this person? Lmaooooo. Karma is a real thing folks.

 

[anonymous]

I truly feel bad for those who felt that they had to lie in the interview and say they could magically come up with hundreds and hundreds of scripts the first couple of weeks. Sounds like the ones who lied their asses off were the ones that actually got hired. Well the burden is on them now. I’m sure there are some that can do it but the majority...nope

 

[anonymous]

Here is some math to consider. They are hiring 300 reps, so add in dms, rms and various other hanger oners and the field force is at 350.

‘Now, let’s say the average cost per person is 150k per year (salary,bonus,healthcare,car,401k etc-) so the annual “nut” to support the force is about 52 million...

‘Now, assume the AWP is pegged at $ 350/mo (This is about what Zetia cost before it went Generic, they might be foolish enough to try to monkey around with a higher price but if they hope to get any managed care acceptance...) . Also, assume the net after rebates and manufacturing cost is half of AWP, or $175/mo....

To cover the “annual nut” each rep will need to generate about 1000 Rx/year.

I will gladly wager the most successful reps will be at about 100 Trx 12 months post launch.

It is going to be a slaughter.

very true with the numbers.
They think they will just waltz into the market and get wide spread prescribing among Primary care.....Yeah right!

 

[anonymous]

Im pretty pissed. Manager got all kinds of local intelligence from me-that maybe the new rep could figure out in time, who knows? However, the names of the docs out of the gate that i would have gone to if i got the job? They know I was interviewing. I've told them what they did, how they did it. They wont be using any BA if they can help it. Couple of them might lay into the manager if he ever shows up in town. Two of the biggest writers off the table now. I'll tell the others as well. New guy wont get into lots of offices here in town.

The fuck manager didnt even call me. He left a voice message. Fucking gutless. I hope Karma really does come around.

 

[anonymous]

very true with the numbers.
They think they will just waltz into the market and get wide spread prescribing among Primary care.....Yeah right!

PRIMARY CARE ? They won’t get a SINGLE fucking RX out of primary care.

 

[anonymous]

PRIMARY CARE ? They won’t get a SINGLE fucking RX out of primary care.

i apologize “ yeah there’s lots of business in primary care”
Let those GD ignorant SOBs chase that rabbit hole as they have NO market intelligence other than what they have stolen from those who do know.
Eat shit and die you MFs