Associate Reps?????

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How many of these science majors with zero sales ability have been hired? Word is that it's a much lower caliber and gullible group of candidates that are unimpressive. The suck up management will hire based upon the ability to believe that selling off label is acceptable. Those with common sense will not be selected.
 






So these new people start next week! How many were asked to train these people for no additional money! We will tell you that we are going to give you a training bonus for doing this but when it is all said and done we will say oh well this was not approved by M so sorry you won’t get a dime. Jeez the next couple months will be horrible. How many people have quit since the layoffs. Heard already 5 reps have turned in notice. And they will keep leaving.
 






anonymous said:
So these new people start next week! How many were asked to train these people for no additional money! We will tell you that we are going to give you a training bonus for doing this but when it is all said and done we will say oh well this was not approved by M so sorry you won’t get a dime. Jeez the next couple months will be horrible. How many people have quit since the layoffs. Heard already 5 reps have turned in notice. And they will keep leaving.
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How many quit during training. My bet is 25 percent. The experiment will be yet another complete failure like every other Dr Dumbass initiative.
 






I already heard of one person refusing the offer and the manager going back to the drawing board. It's for a big territory in a major metropolitan area with VERY difficult access and the dumb manager never appreciated the hardworking laid off rep that actually was able to get access and was a hustler that brought in the numbers!
 






anonymous said:
I already heard of one person refusing the offer and the manager going back to the drawing board. It's for a big territory in a major metropolitan area with VERY difficult access and the dumb manager never appreciated the hardworking laid off rep that actually was able to get access and was a hustler that brought in the numbers!
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Hustler or not, if you dare to question the noncompliant and unethical marching orders, you are on the hit list. No one dares challenge the great leader... Leadership North Korea style.
 
























Hey associate rep candidates, did the recruiters tell you to learn about the great psychiatrist, Dr Polysomething. I was told that. I was hired. The truth is that douchebag CEO could not care less about patients. The man should have his medical license revoked and be in an orange jumpsuit. He is what you read about that is wrong with pharma: profits over patients. It is so very sad that his focus is so displaced.
 






I hated babysitting years ago and now I get to do it again??? I really don't want to babysit a new AssRep that is taking the place of a damn good rep that was run off because they were concerned about being pushed to do unethical selling. Wtf??
 






anonymous said:
I hated babysitting years ago and now I get to do it again??? I really don't want to babysit a new AssRep that is taking the place of a damn good rep that was run off because they were concerned about being pushed to do unethical selling. Wtf??
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Same here. All current NSRs will be gone within next 6-12 months (they hope we quit) and we are bottle feeding the new generation of Vanda reps.... But they will all be gone within the first six months since their generation is taught to reject bullying which is the GP way.
 






anonymous said:
Same here. All current NSRs will be gone within next 6-12 months (they hope we quit) and we are bottle feeding the new generation of Vanda reps.... But they will all be gone within the first six months since their generation is taught to reject bullying which is the GP way.
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These Ass NSRs will be so confused. They will be taught how to sell off label in training and by their DSM (the non crooked ones are gone). But what if they have to ride with representatives that say FUCK VANDA and refuse to sell Hetlioz for insomnia or Fanapt for bipolar?? Their little twenty something brains will be spinning in circles.
 






anonymous said:
These Ass NSRs will be so confused. They will be taught how to sell off label in training and by their DSM (the non crooked ones are gone). But what if they have to ride with representatives that say FUCK VANDA and refuse to sell Hetlioz for insomnia or Fanapt for bipolar?? Their little twenty something brains will be spinning in circles.
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Their brains have spun before. Some Starbucks have drive throughs and they had to get coffee for people both inside AND outside.
 












MEMO TO ASSOCIATE REPS::

Welcome to Vanda and congratulations on your first job (I’m not counting babysitting or paperboy.) You made it to the big leagues, good on you. As you get settled in to your new roles and get your back-to-school supplies all ready for training in DC I wanted to just share a little secret with you all. Here, lean in a little closer, this is something polite folks never discuss but what the hell, we are co-workers now. (hushed, quiet voice now like I’m whispering to you at the espresso machine) Ok, so this job you just accepted for a 50k base? Take a look around at the rest of the NSRs and AMs (those that don’t still have acne or smell like Axe body spray.) We were all hired at a base of 90k for the same exact job you have. With merit increases most of us are over 100k (I know you all have 3.0+ GPAs so I don’t have to do the math for you but I will anyway - THAT’S TWICE WHAT THEY ARE PAYING YOU!) The account managers were all brought in at a base between 120k to 130k and with merit raises make nearly THREE TIMES what you you were offered doing the same job you will be doing. If you haven’t accepted the offer yet, make sure you bring this up. Don’t sell yourself short. If they want you to do the job, they should pay you to do it. (end of hushed voice now.)
WELCOME TO VANDA!
 






anonymous said:
MEMO TO ASSOCIATE REPS::

Welcome to Vanda and congratulations on your first job (I’m not counting babysitting or paperboy.) You made it to the big leagues, good on you. As you get settled in to your new roles and get your back-to-school supplies all ready for training in DC I wanted to just share a little secret with you all. Here, lean in a little closer, this is something polite folks never discuss but what the hell, we are co-workers now. (hushed, quiet voice now like I’m whispering to you at the espresso machine) Ok, so this job you just accepted for a 50k base? Take a look around at the rest of the NSRs and AMs (those that don’t still have acne or smell like Axe body spray.) We were all hired at a base of 90k for the same exact job you have. With merit increases most of us are over 100k (I know you all have 3.0+ GPAs so I don’t have to do the math for you but I will anyway - THAT’S TWICE WHAT THEY ARE PAYING YOU!) The account managers were all brought in at a base between 120k to 130k and with merit raises make nearly THREE TIMES what you you were offered doing the same job you will be doing. If you haven’t accepted the offer yet, make sure you bring this up. Don’t sell yourself short. If they want you to do the job, they should pay you to do it. (end of hushed voice now.)
WELCOME TO VANDA!
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I'll add something else that the poster missed. You were lied to over and over again in the interview process. If you think you will ever get the title of "Associate" removed and get a large jump in pay, you will be sorely disappointed. Your new CEO made it very clear to the DSMs and RSDs via CCO GP Muffin Mouth (no one ever has a clue what he is talking about) and Sales VP former gym teacher Tom that AMs and NSRs would all be just Associates down the road (the June 15 purge was step 1). Also, if you think this is a stepping stone to some cushy home office job, that was a BIG lie as well. NOT ONE, no NOT ONE field employee has ever even been allowed to interview for a home office job. Truth be told, HQ is a toxic horrid place too unless you are an offspring of the great leader Kim Jong Polymeropolous. (and yes, it's very difficult to believe anyone would procreate with the Greek slug but someone did) Oh and then there's the lies about vanda giving a shit about patients and being very compliant and having an open door policy blah blah blah. ALL LIES. This could go on for many many more paragraphs but you will learn soon enough. Now go enjoy a job where your co-workers and other peers in the industry are all being paid to endure the misery which is Vanda while you are going to be beaten up and treated like shit by Vanda for a fraction of the $$.
 
























anonymous said:
When do we have to start training these kids? Jeez and no money for
Doing and still no word
On Hetlioz bonus for
2 nd quarter
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You are lucky you were not purged. You should welcome the opportunity to train these children that wanted to go to med school but were not accepted and have been waiting tables. As for Hetlioz bonus, we won't even be honest on the ratio of blind versus sighted on investor call, why would we be honest and pay you. Bow for us.
Sincerely yours
Senior " leadership" ( yeah we know we just follow and have no idea how to lead)
 






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