Amneal

Quote




anonymous said:
The lady out East who got passed over for the position CH holds was by far more qualified. She’s run so many calls on how all our systems work etc I thought she was a shoe in But as time unfolded I think we all figured out why one got the job and the qualified one did not.
HK and JR are being coy about lay offs. They won’t lay off the whole sales force but cutting 1/2 (about 10-12) of Lyvispah team and reintegrating them into PD just makes obvious sense. Selling Ong and the new DHE will be a lighter version of our Rytary and Zomig days.
Click to expand...

That is why they have not filled the 2 RBM slots on the PD team. They are talking about hiring Training and Development Director. The only ABD left is FA on the Endo team. Not sure if they will keep him or not. They are very happy with his sales team so it’s anyones guess.
 








Wow! This company has gone down the drain. If you are looking at coming here turn away! All this hate about people getting let go, there probably the ones that got out lucky with their big packages! I am currently looking...keep in mind..everybody new that has come into the company has been terrible...You will see the new training and sales people look for ways to get rid of more people....its coming..start looking now so your not left behind. I wish they would let me go, so I can go look for a way better company. More layoffs are coming.
 




anonymous said:
Wow! This company has gone down the drain. If you are looking at coming here turn away! All this hate about people getting let go, there probably the ones that got out lucky with their big packages! I am currently looking...keep in mind..everybody new that has come into the company has been terrible...You will see the new training and sales people look for ways to get rid of more people....its coming..start looking now so your not left behind. I wish they would let me go, so I can go look for a way better company. More layoffs are coming.
Click to expand...

Yeah, it is really sad. I remember CH and she is definitely not a nice person nor good at making friends, well except for MM. Good at kissing ass maybe - a fake. She totally does dress like a teenager. I think that is what poster meant by "babydoll". I do recall short teenage like dresses the kids are wearing and being very cozy-cozy with MM. Bizzare for sure I think they meant "unprofessional" and trying to look younger than she really is.

Curious what the brothers think about all the things going on behind closed doors. A disgrace! I hope you get let go if that is what you want! As a rep, will you get severance? I don't think so. Better to start looking now before the layoffs.
 




anonymous said:
Yeah, it is really sad. I remember CH and she is definitely not a nice person nor good at making friends, well except for MM. Good at kissing ass maybe - a fake. She totally does dress like a teenager. I think that is what poster meant by "babydoll". I do recall short teenage like dresses the kids are wearing and being very cozy-cozy with MM. Bizzare for sure I think they meant "unprofessional" and trying to look younger than she really is.

Curious what the brothers think about all the things going on behind closed doors. A disgrace! I hope you get let go if that is what you want! As a rep, will you get severance? I don't think so. Better to start looking now before the layoffs.
Click to expand...

The brothers are ignorant of what is going on and probably wouldn’t care if they were aware. They have demonstrated time and time again that they don’t know the Branded and Speciality market. The do a great job of letting the people they hire do their jobs with minimal interference. It’s a trait I wish trickled down to the front line reps. However, as demonstrated by SH Gustavo Vesper and now this lot….they need to do a better job hiring those people
 




anonymous said:
Wow! This company has gone down the drain. If you are looking at coming here turn away! All this hate about people getting let go, there probably the ones that got out lucky with their big packages! I am currently looking...keep in mind..everybody new that has come into the company has been terrible...You will see the new training and sales people look for ways to get rid of more people....its coming..start looking now so your not left behind. I wish they would let me go, so I can go look for a way better company. More layoffs are coming.
Click to expand...
 




Unless you work for H.R. you do not know for sure more layoffs are coming. If guessing, you could say that the PD and spasticity teams are at risk. The Endo team is doing well but some territories are not generating enough prescriptions to cover the cost of a rep. No, I do not work in sales……
 








anonymous said:
Unless you work for H.R. you do not know for sure more layoffs are coming. If guessing, you could say that the PD and spasticity teams are at risk. The Endo team is doing well but some territories are not generating enough prescriptions to cover the cost of a rep. No, I do not work in sales……
Click to expand...

Obviously you don’t work in Sales. Endo is the Golden Child at the moment Their reps are going to be getting a well deserved raise. They are grossly underpaid, even more so than the rest of us. It has been stated by JR HK my manager and everyone that PD is currently light in their numbers and need a few more. When you factor in Ong starting at the first of the year and IPX in 25 we are super safe. IF layoffs come it will mostly if not entirely from Spasticity. They are losing between 500k - $1 million a month. That’s not sustainable. Lyv is an absolute dog. Our MSL guy even told them that on a Team wide call! They are in a hiring freeze Their morale is in the toilet. DHE isn’t going to save them.
Home Office is in absolute chaos at the moment. So nothing is going to happen until everyone gets replaced and a plan gets put into place. And lay offs will most likely be in those plans
 




Sales Training and Operations are not the problem here and if you think they are you are a pretty crappy sales person because they don't affect us...Let's focus on what the true issues are - (1) Market Access - no matter how many times DA tells us its covered its not - Rytary is $400+, (2) HK has zero sales leadership experience,we know why she got her job (3) the new PD drug is a dog and IPX probably won't launch in 25 with all the issues it has and by then Rytary will be generic. (4) Contract reps replacing us is the rumor, why would we do that if the company is looking to grow? We have no big product to hold the Specialty team up after 25! No disrespect to my Endo counterparts but the drug is $3. How hard can that really be? Can anybody list a reason why I should stay and continue selling here?
 




anonymous said:
Sales Training and Operations are not the problem here and if you think they are you are a pretty crappy sales person because they don't affect us...Let's focus on what the true issues are - (1) Market Access - no matter how many times DA tells us its covered its not - Rytary is $400+, (2) HK has zero sales leadership experience,we know why she got her job (3) the new PD drug is a dog and IPX probably won't launch in 25 with all the issues it has and by then Rytary will be generic. (4) Contract reps replacing us is the rumor, why would we do that if the company is looking to grow? We have no big product to hold the Specialty team up after 25! No disrespect to my Endo counterparts but the drug is $3. How hard can that really be? Can anybody list a reason why I should stay and continue selling here?
Click to expand...

Why have you remained up until this point?
 




anonymous said:
Why have you remained up until this point?
Click to expand...

Thats your only response? That person hit on every salient point and your only response is ‘why have you remained to this point’? I dunno, maybe you should address the actual points tat were raised? I’m staying here because it’s been a good run and I’m hoping things get better. But that doesn’t mean I dont think the above poster is 100% correct
You also assume they haven’t tried to leave. It’s a tough and saturated market out there right now. Maybe they ARE trying to leave but haven’t landed anything yet. And no, that wouldn’t make them a bad rep so save that response if you were going to say it.
 




anonymous said:
Thats your only response? That person hit on every salient point and your only response is ‘why have you remained to this point’? I dunno, maybe you should address the actual points tat were raised? I’m staying here because it’s been a good run and I’m hoping things get better. But that doesn’t mean I dont think the above poster is 100% correct
You also assume they haven’t tried to leave. It’s a tough and saturated market out there right now. Maybe they ARE trying to leave but haven’t landed anything yet. And no, that wouldn’t make them a bad rep so save that response if you were going to say it.
Click to expand...

Calm down. You’re going off half cocked at maximum level projection… Are you ok?

They asked a question and I was addressing that. They asked about reasons to stay and continue to sell. I merely wondered why they had remained here up until now?

It’s how people use their critical thinking skills. Are those reasons still something that they are seeing and does it fulfill them? Nobody can know why someone should stay, especially if they are unhappy. But if you can’t find even one reason it’s a good time to make a move because career fulfillment is a thing.

What you are doing is assuming and projecting assumptions and motivations that have ZERO to do with my comment to the poster. I didn’t even hint at what you said.

I can see that you are very frustrated and that is tough for you and others to make a move. There are lot of opportunities out there and if people stick with it they will land somewhere! A lot of people got out in the last year or so and did so pretty quickly. They seem to be doing well!

Anyway, if you leave or stay I wish you well!

Lastly, the points made by the poster were already covered in this thread so I didn’t feel as passionate about it being repeated as you. Nothing personal.
 




anonymous said:
Calm down. You’re going off half cocked at maximum level projection… Are you ok?

They asked a question and I was addressing that. They asked about reasons to stay and continue to sell. I merely wondered why they had remained here up until now?

It’s how people use their critical thinking skills. Are those reasons still something that they are seeing and does it fulfill them? Nobody can know why someone should stay, especially if they are unhappy. But if you can’t find even one reason it’s a good time to make a move because career fulfillment is a thing.

What you are doing is assuming and projecting assumptions and motivations that have ZERO to do with my comment to the poster. I didn’t even hint at what you said.

I can see that you are very frustrated and that is tough for you and others to make a move. There are lot of opportunities out there and if people stick with it they will land somewhere! A lot of people got out in the last year or so and did so pretty quickly. They seem to be doing well!

Anyway, if you leave or stay I wish you well!

Lastly, the points made by the poster were already covered in this thread so I didn’t feel as passionate about it being repeated as you. Nothing personal.
Click to expand...

just to step in here, the poster drew a reasonable conclusion based on your one line response. Your justification/Clarification is a really good point, that had you lead with, surely would have elicited a difference response. No need for you to get defensive because your vague statements are interpreted differently than you wish. Own it and move on.
Now, to your excellent question. I think a lot of people are doing just that. I have never seen so many people looking for jobs elsewhere in my many years here from contract to now. While I agree the majority of folks who have left in the past 12-18 months are doing well, I disagree about your assertion that there are plenty of jobs out there. (Of course I’m assuming you mean Pharma jobs. ). The competition for each position is fierce due to the amount of layoffs. The average length of time from when folks start looking and then landing a Pharma job is generally lengthy and generally don’t happen with the first company you interview with. Back in my day it was 4-6 companies on average your interview with before you landed a gig. I can’t think that has gone down. The metric to look at is ‘How many are actively looking to leave’ as opposed to ‘How many have left’. Personally after JR’s message today I feel good at where we are at. However, if I was in Spasticity I’d absolutely be concerned about what’s going on. Every other division has a well defined path and is growing in volume and reps. Spasticity is growing at a paltry rate and they have frozen staffing. That absolutely is a legitimate cause for concern.
that’s my .02. I’ll leave you be
 




anonymous said:
just to step in here, the poster drew a reasonable conclusion based on your one line response. Your justification/Clarification is a really good point, that had you lead with, surely would have elicited a difference response. No need for you to get defensive because your vague statements are interpreted differently than you wish. Own it and move on.
Now, to your excellent question. I think a lot of people are doing just that. I have never seen so many people looking for jobs elsewhere in my many years here from contract to now. While I agree the majority of folks who have left in the past 12-18 months are doing well, I disagree about your assertion that there are plenty of jobs out there. (Of course I’m assuming you mean Pharma jobs. ). The competition for each position is fierce due to the amount of layoffs. The average length of time from when folks start looking and then landing a Pharma job is generally lengthy and generally don’t happen with the first company you interview with. Back in my day it was 4-6 companies on average your interview with before you landed a gig. I can’t think that has gone down. The metric to look at is ‘How many are actively looking to leave’ as opposed to ‘How many have left’. Personally after JR’s message today I feel good at where we are at. However, if I was in Spasticity I’d absolutely be concerned about what’s going on. Every other division has a well defined path and is growing in volume and reps. Spasticity is growing at a paltry rate and they have frozen staffing. That absolutely is a legitimate cause for concern.
that’s my .02. I’ll leave you be
Click to expand...

Naw, it’s not defensive to call out some ridiculous projection. Even if the person projecting is pressed and confused to the point of absurdity by what they feel is vague. No justification needed. Own that and move on. I know I am!

Agreed looking at the metic of how many are looking to leave is telling. It might take time, but the great thing about having a job is you’re interviewing them right back.

I think you’re right in that it is territory specific when it comes to how many job opportunities pop up. Those who have moved have done really great for themselves and I have zero doubt anyone else who wants to move will do so. Just might take some more time than others.

I doubt anyone in Spasticity is feeling comfortable or happy. They really got the raw end of the deal.

Glad JR’s message made you feel good. There might be hope yet!
 








They will take the best employees from spasticity and move them to jobs in Rytary. That means some spasticity and Rytary employees will be gone. They won’t be looking at product or tenure. It’s all about performance here on out.
 








anonymous said:
They will take the best employees from spasticity and move them to jobs in Rytary. That means some spasticity and Rytary employees will be gone. They won’t be looking at product or tenure. It’s all about performance here on out.
Click to expand...
Agree, as they should be (looking at performance) as a key metric. for those of us who bust our a**es to hit goal I’d rather be given priority over someone that simply worked here longer than me and is perhaps more jaded, making fewer calls, repeating negativity and complaining on message boards, not meeting goal as frequently as me, you name it. Every company looks at performance. We are finally about to be keeping up with the joneses. I love my job and I want to not keep up but surpass other companies. That’s why we have many boomerangs . Grass not always greener
 




Top Bottom
Back
Quote