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Lmfao!!!! Denmark has a 60.2% tax rate. It's not free, it's "pre-paid".
These morons are quite entertaining.
Lmfao!!!! Denmark has a 60.2% tax rate. It's not free, it's "pre-paid".
At 60.2%, Denmark last year had the highest top personal income tax rate among the 34 countries in the OECD, an organization of developed and emerging countries. And that 60.2% applied to income over roughly $55,000.
Man... Who knew "Free" could be so expensive?!?
What do you think the combined state & federal rates are especially in placed like NY , CA & IL is ? Over 50% not including all the 'hidden' taxes on fuel, utilities, phones, booze, smokes, weed & of course property, sales taxes, etc. plus the tax on your stupidity. Dolt.
How else can medicare afford to give pharma hundreds of billions in profits if not for the banning of re-importations & the bribery that prevented medicare to negotiate drug prices like the VA without that very high tax rate.
Oh my God, how many times to we have to address this propaganda. Yes, when you compare healthy people, who live healthy lifestyles to less healthy people... The healthy tend to live longer, healthier lives and generally require less medical attention, which means fewer medical bills and less healthcare costs generally. To then extrapolate those facts and believe that is has a direct correlation with a particular healthcare system is COMPLETE FOLLY.
I am really struggling to find proof for this ridiculous claim:
It has been known that drugs are the fourth leading cause of death in the U.S.
This makes it clear that the more frightening number is that doctors are the third leading cause of death in this country, killing nearly a quarter million people a year.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(13)62355-7/fulltext
There have been two recent reports by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) investigating the USA's disappointing health record compared with other OECD countries. Deaton chose the one that emphasised smoking and medical care on which to base a chapter. The other report found that, compared to “peer countries”, the USA had worse health in nine domains: adverse birth outcomes, injuries and homicide, adolescent pregnancy, HIV/AIDS, drug-related mortality, obesity and diabetes, heart disease, chronic lung disease, and disability. These health disadvantages are bigger among socioeconomically disadvantaged groups. This NAS panel put much greater emphasis on adverse socioeconomic conditions than they did on smoking and lack of control of high blood pressure or cholesterol.
In The Great Escape, when discussing health in the modern world, taking the USA as his example, within-country inequalities in health make only fleeting appearances, and then because the benefits of treatment might not be readily diffused. It is not an important part of the book's focus that male life expectancy in the unhealthiest US county is 64 years, compared with 84 in the healthiest; the 20-year gap in 2010 compares unfavourably to a 12-year gap in 1985. This major feature of health in the modern world is largely overlooked, perhaps linked to the downplaying of the importance of adverse socioeconomic conditions as causes of health inequalities.
Lmfao!!!! Denmark has a 60.2% tax rate. It's not free, it's "pre-paid".
it's not that hard to find evidence to back up the claim. if anything, the claims are under-stated.
drugs:
from JAMA, 2000 (i know it's dated, but can't find a more recent one.):
http://www.avaresearch.com/ava-main-website/files/20100401061256.pdf?page=files/20100401061256.pdf
assuming no change from 2000 to 2010 (your CDC ref), we have 113,000 deaths estimated for medication errors and adverse events for hospitalized patients, putting "drugs" as the 6th leading cause of death.
however...
if we add in prescription drug overdoses/abuse excluding suicides (based on this 2010 study in JAMA - http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1653518), then we add 18,354 deaths to 113,000
= 131,354
= "drugs" are the 4th leading case of death.
doctors:
http://www.propublica.org/article/how-many-die-from-medical-mistakes-in-us-hospitals
It seems that every time researchers estimate how often a medical mistake contributes to a hospital patient’s death, the numbers come out worse.
In 1999, the Institute of Medicine published the famous “To Err Is Human” report, which dropped a bombshell on the medical community by reporting that up to 98,000 people a year die because of mistakes in hospitals. The number was initially disputed, but is now widely accepted by doctors and hospital officials — and quoted ubiquitously in the media.
In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year.
Now comes a study in the current issue of the Journal of Patient Safety that says the numbers may be much higher — between 210,000 and 440,000 patients each year who go to the hospital for care suffer some type of preventable harm that contributes to their death, the study says.
That would make medical errors the third-leading cause of death in America, behind heart disease, which is the first, and cancer, which is second.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyu2duUJvdc
What do you think the combined state & federal rates are especially in placed like NY , CA & IL is ? Over 50% not including all the 'hidden' taxes on fuel, utilities, phones, booze, smokes, weed & of course property, sales taxes, etc. plus the tax on your stupidity. Dolt.
How else can medicare afford to give pharma hundreds of billions in profits if not for the banning of re-importations & the bribery that prevented medicare to negotiate drug prices like the VA without that very high tax rate.
Perhaps if companies like Novartis didn't wig out their employees with micromanagement & annual layoffs there'd be less stress aka lower BP, depression, anxiety, lower MI, Stroke incidence & even reduced suicides like the 2 or 3 ex novartians resorted to in the last 5 or so years but of course that would reduce the need for pharmacological band aids so guess that's not in the works
The 60% is on EVERYONE earning $55,000. People making $55000 and under even in CA are not paying 50%.
Sweden is another great example of a country with a super high quality of life with free heath care, education, and elder care. This community model should be advanced in the US! The nordic countries are demonstrating a compassionate and advanced way of living together for their citizens.
That's all great except for the fact that it is WRONG.
Most recent CDC data
Number of deaths for leading causes of death
Heart disease: 596,577
Cancer: 576,691
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 142,943
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 128,932
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 126,438
Alzheimer's disease: 84,974
Diabetes: 73,831
Influenza and Pneumonia: 53,826
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 45,591
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 39,518
Source: Deaths: Final Data for 2011, table 10 [PDF - 1.5 MB]
We value freedom and individual rights... remember, that's kind of the reason for America from inception. That's how America became the greatest, most consequential super-power in world history.
That's how America became the greatest, most consequential super-power in world history.
And it happened relatively quickly. We know what works and what doesn't.
Let's not repeat the mistakes of a failing Europe.
Great... another example of a completely inconsequential country with a population roughly the size of Michigan. So they pay EXTREMELY high taxes, receive cradle to grave entitlements and are apparently happy with that. We don't roll like that in America. We value freedom and individual rights... remember, that's kind of the reason for America from inception. That's how America became the greatest, most consequential super-power in world history. And it happened relatively quickly. We know what works and what doesn't. Let's not repeat the mistakes of a failing Europe.
what about the native americans? so much for their freedoms and individual rights taken away through forced migrations and genocide.
America is not the greatest.
cue colonel chamberlain:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs
is that so?
stop projecting.
now
your
turn...
The wave is coming and you better be able to live in a progressive country that offers dignity and health to ALL of its citizens! The capitalist model was great in the 40s, 50, 60s. We are now evolving to a better form of government and life.
Gleevec should cost 2500 annually just like in India or Dr Reddy should be allowed to import it's generic here despite the whining & crying that Novartis does to the government
/yawn.
simply saying something is wrong does not make it wrong.
you have neither offered nothing new to the discussion nor invalidated the figures and the synthesis thereof.