Zimmy update





~T~ said:
I don't get how you (and others) can't see that you're stereotyping hoodie wearers. I suppose you think women in short skirts and high heels are asking to be raped, too??
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Actually it was the protesters that brought up the hoodie. Remember the 'Million Hoodie March'? Everyone wore a hoodie and marched down the street waving skittles. We didn't start that hoodie crap.
 




"The idea that wearing a hoodie is a legitimate invitation to be shot has to be one of the stupidest ideas I've ever read here on CP. I can't even believe you're in that group."

Not saying the wearer of the hooded sweatshirt whould be an instant target. I AM saying that the way kids dress can cause them to be profiled, both by the cops and by true hoodlums who may mistake them for rivals. Okay, and by over zealous
Neighborhood Watchers.
 




Walking Eagle said:
"The idea that wearing a hoodie is a legitimate invitation to be shot has to be one of the stupidest ideas I've ever read here on CP. I can't even believe you're in that group."

Not saying the wearer of the hooded sweatshirt whould be an instant target. I AM saying that the way kids dress can cause them to be profiled, both by the cops and by true hoodlums who may mistake them for rivals. Okay, and by over zealous
Neighborhood Watchers.
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Hear that AM4E? You may be mistaken for a hoodlum...........or a rival....LOL
 




Pale Horse said:
Actually it was the protesters that brought up the hoodie. Remember the 'Million Hoodie March'? Everyone wore a hoodie and marched down the street waving skittles. We didn't start that hoodie crap.
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But that was AFTER the shooting.
 








Walking Eagle said:
Are syou trying to say that this does not happen??? Better talk to some teens.
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Sure it happens. I guess his mistake was thinking he was in a safe neighborhood at his dad's house. Little did he know people using the disguise of Neighborhood Watch (adults who are supposed to call the police when suspicious activity occurs) was on the prowl culling out kids whose dress codes they didn't like.

Are you saying it's typical that Neighborhood Watch follows teens whose clothes they don't like wih guns, then follows them on foot with loaded pistols? Better talk to Neighborhood Watch (or read this).

http://thegrio.com/2012/03/21/zimmerman-not-a-member-of-recognized-neighborhood-watch-organization/


He's a liar - doesn't even belong to Neighborhood Watch.
 




Phoebe said:
OH NO YOU DITIN!!! Don't tell me you just pulled out that race card!!!!!!!!!!!! Shame on you Vag!!

And BTW...I don't recall saying anything about the hoodie over the head etc....I do agree it is not a wise thing to do....but it was raining and understandable .... but still TM should have walked away and never approached Zimm then punching him!
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Race card? What race card? That's a southern accent Feebs. Do you think everyone with a southern accent is a member of a minpority race?

And where's the part about Zimmerman should never have got out of the car and followed him on foot with a gun? The police said they didn't need him to do that and as it turns out, he wasn't even in a recognized Neighborhood Watch program.
 




~T~ said:
You stereotype and label based on outward appearance.
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Yes I do. Everybody does. Would you hire someone with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head to work as a sales person in pharmaceuticals? I mean the legal kind.

Would you hire someone with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head to work in a department store?

Would you hire someone with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head to work as a school bus driver?

If someone showed up to fill out an application dressed with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head, just what kind of job to do you think they would be hired for?
 




Vagitarian said:
Sure it happens. I guess his mistake was thinking he was in a safe neighborhood at his dad's house. Little did he know people using the disguise of Neighborhood Watch (adults who are supposed to call the police when suspicious activity occurs) was on the prowl culling out kids whose dress codes they didn't like.

Are you saying it's typical that Neighborhood Watch follows teens whose clothes they don't like wih guns, then follows them on foot with loaded pistols? Better talk to Neighborhood Watch (or read this).

http://thegrio.com/2012/03/21/zimmerman-not-a-member-of-recognized-neighborhood-watch-organization/


He's a liar - doesn't even belong to Neighborhood Watch.
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Not defending Z's actions. Neighborhood watch are not supposed to be armed even if licensed (at least that is the way it used to be) and are only suppose to contact police and monitor the whereabouts of suspicious persons from a safe distance. I guess 'suspicious" is in the eye of the beholder and that leads to profiling and that can be construed as racial if the suspect turns out to be of a different ethnic background than the watcher (especially if members of a particualr ethnicity tend to belong to gangs or are otherwise notorious for causing problems in a given area). So what are we to do? New law: cops detain a young man who meets a description of a buglary or robbery suspect but has to immediately let him go because he is of a different ethnicity or sex than the cop--OR--a cop of the same ethnicity/sex must be called in to do the arrest and questioning: ""Charlie, this is Bob. I'm at 23rd and Main. Send over the lesbian, light complected green-eyed arabian, transexual presbyterian over stat!!""
 




BTW--been in the rain while wearing a bright orange hooded sweatshirt while hunting (with a camera, FYI--only use a gun if I am wth some one who will use the meat as I don't like venison) and the hood only makes it WORSE. Gotta have something waterproof over the sweatshirt!! BUT, THAT ain't stylin'.
 




Walking Eagle said:
Not defending Z's actions. Neighborhood watch are not supposed to be armed even if licensed (at least that is the way it used to be) and are only suppose to contact police and monitor the whereabouts of suspicious persons from a safe distance. I guess 'suspicious" is in the eye of the beholder and that leads to profiling and that can be construed as racial if the suspect turns out to be of a different ethnic background than the watcher (especially if members of a particualr ethnicity tend to belong to gangs or are otherwise notorious for causing problems in a given area). So what are we to do? New law: cops detain a young man who meets a description of a buglary or robbery suspect but has to immediately let him go because he is of a different ethnicity or sex than the cop--OR--a cop of the same ethnicity/sex must be called in to do the arrest and questioning: ""Charlie, this is Bob. I'm at 23rd and Main. Send over the lesbian, light complected green-eyed arabian, transexual presbyterian over stat!!""
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Not sure about 'send over that lesbian' but I sure wish it was that easy to connect with bi-curious women. They're so damned much fun for a couple. The problem is, even though 50% of all women are bi-curious (like Angelina Jolie) they're often not comfortable admitting it. I guess this just make a couple's job more exciting?

They dress differently than flat out exclusive Lesbians - and they're so damned much fun..,..l
 








  • ~T~   Dec 11, 2012 at 07:16: AM
Pale Horse said:
Actually it was the protesters that brought up the hoodie. Remember the 'Million Hoodie March'? Everyone wore a hoodie and marched down the street waving skittles. We didn't start that hoodie crap.
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I realize that. But DD brought it up again...so we discussed it again. The protesters marched because Trayvon was profiled by Zimmerman for wearing a hoodie. That and the fact Geraldo made the comment he did at the time about hoodies being *thugwear* or something.

We're all just beating a dead horse here. I think everyone has their mind made up on this case. Unless some earth shattering new evidence comes to light, no one is changing their position.

My prediction...Zimmy is charged with second degree murder.
 








  • ~T~   Dec 11, 2012 at 07:22: AM
Phoebe said:
As I said, I do not recall saying it was the hoodie! Please prove it.

OHHH and BTW, have you ever considered writing? That was a pretty good story you just wrote; seriously...it read like a story (I just do not agree with it...but good writing!!)
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Well..thanks Phoebe. And you don't have to agree. ;)
 




Walking Eagle said:
BTW--been in the rain while wearing a bright orange hooded sweatshirt while hunting (with a camera, FYI--only use a gun if I am wth some one who will use the meat as I don't like venison) and the hood only makes it WORSE. Gotta have something waterproof over the sweatshirt!! BUT, THAT ain't stylin'.
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You don't like venison?:confused:

Do you like squirrel or rabbit?
 




  • ~T~   Dec 11, 2012 at 07:57: AM
Drug Dumper said:
Yes I do. Everybody does. Would you hire someone with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head to work as a sales person in pharmaceuticals? I mean the legal kind.

Would you hire someone with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head to work in a department store?

Would you hire someone with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head to work as a school bus driver?

If someone showed up to fill out an application dressed with pants down to their knees and a hooded sweatshirt pulled over their head, just what kind of job to do you think they would be hired for?
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Everybody does to an extent but in law enforcement, I'd imagine it wouldn't work to your benefit.

Example...gang of guys in Boston wear black leather jackets, doo rags with skulls & crossbones, chains around their necks & wrists and drive some pretty bad ass LOUD Harleys...

If your first thought is they are anti-social trouble makers..you would be wrong. They do runs for charity and most are professionals..one is a surgeon. My husband used to ride with them.

Another example..cop pulls over a clean cut looking white guy for reckless driving and speeding. What..because he's clean cut and white the officer isn't going to cast a wary eye and approach the guy with the utmost precaution?

My point? Don't judge a book by its cover...
 








The thing about this is,
IF:
Trayvon was a white kid
Walking in a Black gated community(no, not a prison)
Zimmerman was a black hispanic
All of the events remained the same-highly unlikely but-
THEN:
Zimmerman would have been charged with murder 1 or 2 and already convicted.

Trayvon was wrong and stupid in walking around looking like a thug; yes.(same to be said of a white kid in a black neighborhood walking around) But Zimmerman never should have done anything other than call the police. They teach you in CCW not to be a fucking cowboy or Dirty Harry with your weapon. It is only used to save or defend your life or someone else's. Zimmerman totally screwed up and needs to be convicted and serve a long sentence.

But I do hope that Zimmerman sues the hell out of NBC, which was the original topic of this thread.

just my 2cents
 




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