Fair and productive??? Define productive. Hollow words with no meaning. I could use a generalization and say everyone in management is an underperformer with a lack of vision and little comprehension of what the customers needs are? Would this be a fair assessment of the management team??? What have you done? Clinical literature to support product use? NO. Tech support that is a well oiled machine that helps sales? NO. Reimbursement by most large payers? NO. A seasoned team of people in place to tackle reimbursement issues? NO. A well thought out quota and comp plan that keeps turnover low? NO. Happy PSRs that don't have money taken away for being 1 hour late on faxing paperwork? NO. Experienced management team? NO. And on and on and on! So I ask you, what the fuck are you talking about???
YOU can't handle the truth ZOLL!
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Fair and productive??? Define productive. Hollow words with no meaning. I could use a generalization and say everyone in management is an underperformer with a lack of vision and little comprehension of what the customers needs are? Would this be a fair assessment of the management team??? What have you done? Clinical literature to support product use? NO. Tech support that is a well oiled machine that helps sales? NO. Reimbursement by most large payers? NO. A seasoned team of people in place to tackle reimbursement issues? NO. A well thought out quota and comp plan that keeps turnover low? NO. Happy PSRs that don't have money taken away for being 1 hour late on faxing paperwork? NO. Experienced management team? NO. And on and on and on! So I ask you, what the fuck are you talking about???
this is the best thread I have ever read on this site. its greeeeeeeeeeeeeeat!
so mother f'in accurate. It's so true, they just cant handle the truth....they will see the truth when Medicare yanks all reimbursement and all commercial plans follow their lead. Its not a matter of if they do, its when they do.....I used to be a RM at zoll, and yes, its a sinking ship........
so mother f'in accurate. It's so true, they just cant handle the truth....they will see the truth when Medicare yanks all reimbursement and all commercial plans follow their lead. Its not a matter of if they do, its when they do.....I used to be a RM at zoll, and yes, its a sinking ship........
What would be really interesting is to know how long it took for the OP to write that epistle
If you don't like it, get the fuck out and go back to bagging groceries ass clown. The truth is you're fucking weak, probably a democrat, want a free fucking handout, and should be fired for being a whiny ass cry baby. You are in sales right, go fucking sell and get the paperwork in on time. People like you and the you're other johnny junior high posters need to go back to pharma where you came from. Life was easy there; signatures, lunches, back to the house. Closest thing to the free handout you like.
Previous RM at Zoll, what are doing now? Why are you so confident Medicare is yanking reimbursement? You seem awfully confident in your statement.
You sure don't sound like a previous Zoll RM. You sound like a current manager trying to deflect everything, so you can perpetuate the lies to fill your never ending open rep roles.
You have serious anger issues and group others with differing opinions, and are therefore also a pathological liar. They generally run hand in hand. It's one thing to have a different opinion. It's another to demonstrate your weakness and inability to handle the truth like you did. I feel sorry for you. You must have had a bad childhood.
ok, Dr. Phil! It sounds like you're making a ton of assumptions here. Ager, doesn't automatically turn in to pathological liar. Wow! Typical Zoll trying to connect the dots and make tons of assumptions on things where there are not facts. I agree with you that the OP is angry> But let's face it so is almost the entire sales force and the many that have already left here. Stop making up things and lies to get people to join your smoke and mirrors company.
I'm speaking to the negative and complaining reps about the company not being fair. All opinions are welcomed. If you don't like management, company processes, feel like you're not supported, then leave because you're unhappy and are a cancer to us. Why do you want to work at company you get on here and talk shit about. That's the TRUTH people need to hear.
We don't need a cancer in our locker room. And to answer your statement my childhood was great and lead to full ride to college. Hard work, determination, commitment, and a positive attitude can bring you success. You should try it out sometime.
People wouldn't be complaining here if THEY WERE NOT LIED to during the interview process to get us to join this company. People are upset and angry because they were dumped, outright lied to get them on board. Congratulations, you filled another open position, but you have lied and cheated to get me and other on board. That's why people are telling the truth so others do not make their same mistake and believe you lies. I know you call it "complaining" we call it sharing the truth.
Thanks for sharing. Now work on an exit strategy.
WOW, a full ride to college. Please tell me more about how great you are. Fucking dick...
Unfortunately, this is what all upper management fails to realize when they assign RM's to counterbalance the negative (see true) posts on here:
Everyone that has resorted to coming on this site and making a post has already left mentally. It is possible that they have not physically been able to leave yet, but that ball is in motion. The posts are not for them at this point. The posts are to alert others of their experience at Zoll. Many (see most) feel lied to and manipulated. Those feelings are often times strong enough that they feel compelled to save others from making the same mistake.
Nothing will change until upper management realizes that it is the company as a whole (product, lack of data, processes, people, reimbursement, etc...), and not the TM's, that is responsible for the near 70% turnover!
And look where you are now. DME Managing pharm reps. Lol your resume is no better than mine. I took this job because it was a cushy end to my sales career, where all of my big money was made in heart valves and pacers. What a surprise I recieved when I dived into the process and procedures at Zoll. In my 25 years of sales and sales management, I have never seen a more mismanaged unethical organization. Management never addresses any of the sales forces concerns. Management, like the above poster, should realize the employees are looking for a career, and at first started voicing concerns positively because they felt like they were part of a team. As time went by, it was clear that management was not the least bit concerned with the cries of a sales force, who were looking for support from there company in order to achieve there goals. These cries were not from underachievers as you state, but from leaders and producers that were experiencing Zoll policies, that were hindering there ability to make money and develope solid long lasting relationships with Doctors. The result was massive turnover and a management attitude of, get out if you don't like it. This way of thinking violates ever sales leadership course I have ever been part of. It is scripted from the very top, and is amplified by several minions like the above poster. Like it or leave. Were right your wrong. The divide between sales, who is in the trenches everyday, and management who finds it difficult to roll up it's sleves, has never been greater. History has shown that organizations with such a dived are doomed for failure. The cleansing approach to firing and rehiring employees is a short term fix. Fortunately this is my last stop before enjoying the riches of my past professions. I have nothing to fear or lie about. I can only Comment that your statements and assumptions above, are childlike, and would be similar to you pulling down your zipper and comparing to the manager next to you.
The arrogant decline of leadership in medicine has been taking place for 10+yrs now and evident by the "corporate comments above". Physicians/Hospitals even patients used to trust competent, articulate, ethical partners. However, the shit4brains strategies of mass market approach and out of touch forecasts (i.e. not enough patients for your product) have driven this industry down the toilet. Kudos to the articulate comments as to the failure of the company (pretty fair balanced), warnings to future employees with a brain, and airing the laundry for providers and patients to easily query the truth behind this shit-show. Now as for an "exit strategy" well, I have been working mine for 2yrs. as have a lot of people. This place is not my identity, anymore, this place is not my only source of income anymore, this place's practices no longer operate behind the scenes anymore. Good luck expanding when I leave. You will remain flat with declining reimbursement, access and utilization. Way to grow a market JW!
I saw the Zoll booth at SCCM this past weekend. Nice looking and very busy traffic this year. Nice job to the crew working it and keeping a positive outlook on a wonderful life saving device!!
On the weekly "leadership" call:
ML - "(Insert RM's name charged with the task here) can you update us on the Cafepharma negativity mitigation?"
Said RM - "I recently posted a positive review of our booth at SCCM. I made sure to mention how positive the brand new TM's working it were, and also how great the Lifevest is."
This is so incredibly ridiculous and an embarrassing statement. See, this response is exactly a prime example of how elementary the leadership is in this company. Again a complete "wishful thinking" statement. To get on here and post about traffic at a booth as a vendor at a convention is pathetic. Please go get on all of the credible medical device company forums on this site and see if there's anybody posting about their traffic at a booth as a vendor. Really leadership ? that's the only thing you can post on this thread to try to make things positive? How about the same person that wrote quote, why don't you respond to all of the factual issues that are not fixable with this stupid company and stupid device that the original poster to this thread posted? I haven't seen any responses from leadership including whatever douche bag wrote this quote , not addressing any of the things posted on the original thread here about "zoll can't handle the truth" So what does that tell everybody reading this thread? None of the appointed people to get on this site and state bullshit positive things are addressing any of the topics brought up because there is no response to them because they're all the truth! You can't defend the truth can you? This place is so pathetic and such a joke, thank God I'm in the final interview process with a legitimate company and device.
Wow, One of the designated losers in leadership that comes on here to fight the negativity comes on this site and posts a post like this? You are all such a bunch of complete incompetent idiots at this company. You trash pharma reps and say statements like this but yet it's all that you hire??????? Oh I'm sorry, I almost forgot it's all that you get to accept the job! Lmao. That sums up this company in a nutshell, they trash the very same candidates backgrounds that they actually hire! If that isn't a dead giveaway as to how fucked up this company is and ass backwards it is then I don't know what will solidly it for you. whoever stays here or accepts a job here deserves the consequences . I've been here for several years and if I could've gotten on this site and saw some of the stuff which is all true I would've never accepted the job. Now I'm in the vicious cycle of trying to find another job with this shit story of a company on my resume. Which by the way just to let everybody know is a huge greasy mexican food skidmark on your resume. The truth is out about this company and the device, and the recruiters know it and don't care because they just keep making money on the turnover and rehiring, but other device companies are onto it and don't have an interest " ZOLL lifevest" on the resume! it automatically gets pushed to the bottom of the pile. How do I know?because I've been job searching and so have many others at this company for a while and many of the recruiters and hiring managers at other companies have bluntly told me. I'm going to Lowe's today to try to find the most powerful stain remover there is to try to get the shit stain skid mark off my resume. I'm not sure if they make one though.
Make sure you dont spill any on the three or four sections highlighting your pathetic pharma career before you came over here. Not leave and go back to your company ford or chevy sedan and stop holding us all back!!