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anonymous
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what it do?Is there any goood managers here?
nope
what it do?Is there any goood managers here?
nope
yup, call or do a report with the compliance line includes this, cover yourself or you will be out
Afterwards, this managing of reps out is what scares reps for reporting their noncompliant managers and managers who bully their reps.
If you sniff retaliation write it up ASAP
I recorded most of my conversations with my manager without him knowing (even performance discussions, so he couldn’t come back and say “I never said that”). I live in a state where there only 1 person consent rules. What a beautiful thing to have when I need it.You better document everything. When manages start pulling crap like pulling a 180 on what the tell you and what they put in writing, there is probably already a “file” on you. Beat bet is report the action. Also, get resume ready. Sorry for the somber information around the holidays but your time maybe numbered.
What is the deal with Amgen?? Why do they let these managers do what they do? D Hinds especially needs to wake up and grow a pair and do something. He knows it because I've heard him admit it.yeah right. that's gonna work. hr is always on the side of the manager
there is so much retaliation going on around here. everyone's afraid to call in their noncompliant managers for fear of getting managed out via behavior or whatever they want to pull
That's actually a really great idea. Too bad it has to be done though.After interactions with customers, I follow up my conversations with my manager with an email of what we discussed before he can complete my FTR.
I agree with this. Not every manager is bad at Amgen but there are way too many people that experience this here especially in concentrated areas. Toxicity is like a cancer and will spread to adjacent areas. See if you can turn the tide on them. Go back and document things in your phone's calendar with times and specific incidents for the exit interview which you can always request. Subtle bullying and "managing out" is a type of harassment and if documented enough will finally start to be called out. If I ever heard of some sort of official case against Amgen I know several that would step forward and give their accounts with detailed documentation. I know one person that did bring it up and present it when she left due to "bullying" by management and Amgen HR didn't do a damn thing. Somebody by the last name Caputo in HR is never the person you want to speak with if you call HR to report. He will definitely throw you under the bus for the manager.You better document everything. When manages start pulling crap like pulling a 180 on what the tell you and what they put in writing, there is probably already a “file” on you. Beat bet is report the action. Also, get resume ready. Sorry for the somber information around the holidays but your time maybe numbered.
I agree with this. Not every manager is bad at Amgen but there are way too many people that experience this here especially in concentrated areas. Toxicity is like a cancer and will spread to adjacent areas. See if you can turn the tide on them. Go back and document things in your phone's calendar with times and specific incidents for the exit interview which you can always request. Subtle bullying and "managing out" is a type of harassment and if documented enough will finally start to be called out. If I ever heard of some sort of official case against Amgen I know several that would step forward and give their accounts with detailed documentation. I know one person that did bring it up and present it when she left due to "bullying" by management and Amgen HR didn't do a damn thing. Somebody by the last name Caputo in HR is never the person you want to speak with if you call HR to report. He will definitely throw you under the bus for the manager.
I would call Human Resources and report them. They’ll have your back.They should reduce the number of managers in half throughout the company. Maybe more, maybe less depending on BU. We aren’t just starting in the industry. The vast majority have been in Pharma sales for 8+years. Do we really need a micromanager to look over our shoulders all the time?
thanks i will ring them tomorrow.I would call Human Resources and report them. They’ll have your back.
Be careful. I know someone that called HR and was steamrolled by the HR rep who called the manager. I'm telling you it's done all of the time here. Make sure if you do call you've got plenty of documentation to back you up. Even just recording things in your iphone planner with as much detail as possible especially if the manager is asking you do to do more admin like extra reports or things like that. My manager did that to the last person she ran off. It's a real skill they develop, bullying reps. They've got it down to a science at Amgen.thanks i will ring them tomorrow.
Yes call us. We will have your manager fired if warranted. Your info is confidential and you won’t have a target on your own back. We are here for all you fine folks.thanks i will ring them tomorrow.
The compliance line is for shady cowards. It’s an extension of Human Resources and would be worse.