Why would any AMERICAN who understands the FAILURE of SOCIALISM be for HC reform?

[Anonymous]

"government is the only source for real power and corruption"

Is that a credible statement I wonder? A phrase Mitwit would have been proud of!

Does anybody have any examples of industrial power and corruption. Lets make it tough and restrict to Pharmaceuticals......hmmmm........top ten only...........hmmmmmm...........over the last ten years.

Industry, corporations, business and whatever have what power compared to government? Can they force individuals to buy their product or service? Can they make laws? Can they confiscate a large percent of your hard-earned money in the form of taxes? Do they have the power to limit your freedom? All the bad that you believe corporations are guilty of, government is just as guilty. However, only government has the power to force it's corruption on to society. I don't expect you to understand or accept this, but it is true. Government is your religion and you blindly follow it like a good little disciple. You had better go back to Billmaher.com and start cutting-n-pasting again... You are in over your head again.

 

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Industry, corporations, business and whatever have what power compared to government? Can they force individuals to buy their product or service? Can they make laws? Can they confiscate a large percent of your hard-earned money in the form of taxes? Do they have the power to limit your freedom? All the bad that you believe corporations are guilty of, government is just as guilty. However, only government has the power to force it's corruption on to society. I don't expect you to understand or accept this, but it is true. Government is your religion and you blindly follow it like a good little disciple. You had better go back to Billmaher.com and start cutting-n-pasting again... You are in over your head again.

Run Forrest run

 

[Anonymous]

Don't kid yourself. Big corporations have big money and payoff the government in one form or another to do their bidding. Lobbyists are one example. Another example would be how several high officials at the FDA and even on the Supreme Court worked for some of the most corrupt corporations on the planet and constantly vote to favor those corporations with a complete disregard for any evidence of corporate wrong doing.

 

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Don't kid yourself. Big corporations have big money and payoff the government in one form or another to do their bidding. Lobbyists are one example. Another example would be how several high officials at the FDA and even on the Supreme Court worked for some of the most corrupt corporations on the planet and constantly vote to favor those corporations with a complete disregard for any evidence of corporate wrong doing.

What is their bidding? Give me specific examples. Which high officials at the FDA and the Supreme Court worked for which corrupt corporations? Give me names... Seriously, WTF are you talking about?

 

[Anonymous]

What is their bidding? Give me specific examples. Which high officials at the FDA and the Supreme Court worked for which corrupt corporations? Give me names... Seriously, WTF are you talking about?

Clarence Thomas was an executive for Monsanto and continually rules in their favor despite the common knowledge that GMOs are harmful. The FDA is riddled with executives from Monsanto and big pharma. Just look it up, too many to even begin to post without giving myself away. They always make sure that the corporate teat is protected regardless of evidence showing certain products to be harmful. Why do you really think we're at war? There are more contractors over there than soldiers. Corporations do not have to claim taxes on any profits overseas. So, most of the business becomes untaxable. You need to get your head out of your ass. It is ALL about money.

 

[Anonymous]

Clarence Thomas was an executive for Monsanto and continually rules in their favor despite the common knowledge that GMOs are harmful. The FDA is riddled with executives from Monsanto and big pharma. Just look it up, too many to even begin to post without giving myself away. They always make sure that the corporate teat is protected regardless of evidence showing certain products to be harmful. Why do you really think we're at war? There are more contractors over there than soldiers. Corporations do not have to claim taxes on any profits overseas. So, most of the business becomes untaxable. You need to get your head out of your ass. It is ALL about money.

Of course it's about money. Who does money belong to....individuals who earn it or government? There is no proof that GMO foods pose any health risks. If you dislike that foods don't label their products, then go buy organic crap. Nobody forces you to buy anything... Unless we are talking about government. Only government can force that type of tyranny.

 

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Of course it's about money. Who does money belong to....individuals who earn it or government? There is no proof that GMO foods pose any health risks. If you dislike that foods don't label their products, then go buy organic crap. Nobody forces you to buy anything... Unless we are talking about government. Only government can force that type of tyranny.

There is plenty of evidence that GMO foods pose substantial health and environmental risks. I do buy as much organic as possible but it would be nice to discourage GMO use and ensure proper labeling to encourage more sustainable and organic agricultural practices. You do realize that most other countries won't even allow our food to be exported to them b/c of GMOs?

Funny thing about money, it would seem that it is government employees that have the most of it and those at the very top of corporations. All of them are in bed together to help each other - resulting in the decline of the middle class. Throw in our bought and paid for media and you pretty much take anything but the idea of free choice out of the equation. Honestly, we are not too from tyranny. Most just don't know it yet.

 

[Anonymous]

There is plenty of evidence that GMO foods pose substantial health and environmental risks. I do buy as much organic as possible but it would be nice to discourage GMO use and ensure proper labeling to encourage more sustainable and organic agricultural practices. You do realize that most other countries won't even allow our food to be exported to them b/c of GMOs?

Funny thing about money, it would seem that it is government employees that have the most of it and those at the very top of corporations. All of them are in bed together to help each other - resulting in the decline of the middle class. Throw in our bought and paid for media and you pretty much take anything but the idea of free choice out of the equation. Honestly, we are not too from tyranny. Most just don't know it yet.

There is an equal amount of evidence showing the dangers of organic food. Seriously, eat what you want... You will die regardless. Corporations can pay their employees and top management whatever they want. What does that have to do with government? Should government dictate what people get paid?

 

[Anonymous]

There is plenty of evidence that GMO foods pose substantial health and environmental risks. I do buy as much organic as possible but it would be nice to discourage GMO use and ensure proper labeling to encourage more sustainable and organic agricultural practices. You do realize that most other countries won't even allow our food to be exported to them b/c of GMOs?

Funny thing about money, it would seem that it is government employees that have the most of it and those at the very top of corporations. All of them are in bed together to help each other - resulting in the decline of the middle class. Throw in our bought and paid for media and you pretty much take anything but the idea of free choice out of the equation. Honestly, we are not too from tyranny. Most just don't know it yet.

Even the EU rejects your claims about GMOs... This is such a non-issue, but that's what liberals do... They focus on dumb shit while distracting from the real issues that face America.

http://www.france24.com/en/20121128-eu-rejects-french-report-linking-gm-maize-cancer

 

[Anonymous]

There is an equal amount of evidence showing the dangers of organic food. Seriously, eat what you want... You will die regardless. Corporations can pay their employees and top management whatever they want. What does that have to do with government? Should government dictate what people get paid?

I think we have gotten to that point. No corporation should be allowed a needless merger or acquisition, let thousands of employees go and then pay their executives millions but it happens all the time. I think there absolutely needs to be caps on executive pay, higher min. wage, caps on insurance claims, simple flat taxes, codes for the amount of business that can be conducted overseas, fewer tax shelters, better policing of the SD/MC populations, incentives to hire disabled and older workers and more. I think you are also very shortsighted in your statement regarding "eat what you want." GMOs are deadly and I do not want my grandchildren growing up having to suffer the health and environmental consequences of the lack of oversight given to GMOs. Drugs require two years of safety testing before they can be used on humans. Foods only require 90 days. We can remove a drug from the market if it is harmful. You cannot take a seed out of the environment once planted. It goes on the wind and spreads. All these new super bugs are largely due to what is in our meat and dairy and NOT what doctors are doing to healthcare patients. You really need to read up and quit looking at mainstream media - it is garbage and feeds you only what the government and the corporations want you to believe.

 

[Anonymous]

I think we have gotten to that point. No corporation should be allowed a needless merger or acquisition, let thousands of employees go and then pay their executives millions but it happens all the time. I think there absolutely needs to be caps on executive pay, higher min. wage, caps on insurance claims, simple flat taxes, codes for the amount of business that can be conducted overseas, fewer tax shelters, better policing of the SD/MC populations, incentives to hire disabled and older workers and more. I think you are also very shortsighted in your statement regarding "eat what you want." GMOs are deadly and I do not want my grandchildren growing up having to suffer the health and environmental consequences of the lack of oversight given to GMOs. Drugs require two years of safety testing before they can be used on humans. Foods only require 90 days. We can remove a drug from the market if it is harmful. You cannot take a seed out of the environment once planted. It goes on the wind and spreads. All these new super bugs are largely due to what is in our meat and dairy and NOT what doctors are doing to healthcare patients. You really need to read up and quit looking at mainstream media - it is garbage and feeds you only what the government and the corporations want you to believe.

Educate yourself on US agriculture exports...
http://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/international-markets-trade/us-agricultural-trade/exports.aspx

 

[Anonymous]

I think we have gotten to that point. No corporation should be allowed a needless merger or acquisition, let thousands of employees go and then pay their executives millions but it happens all the time. I think there absolutely needs to be caps on executive pay, higher min. wage, caps on insurance claims, simple flat taxes, codes for the amount of business that can be conducted overseas, fewer tax shelters, better policing of the SD/MC populations, incentives to hire disabled and older workers and more. I think you are also very shortsighted in your statement regarding "eat what you want." GMOs are deadly and I do not want my grandchildren growing up having to suffer the health and environmental consequences of the lack of oversight given to GMOs. Drugs require two years of safety testing before they can be used on humans. Foods only require 90 days. We can remove a drug from the market if it is harmful. You cannot take a seed out of the environment once planted. It goes on the wind and spreads. All these new super bugs are largely due to what is in our meat and dairy and NOT what doctors are doing to healthcare patients. You really need to read up and quit looking at mainstream media - it is garbage and feeds you only what the government and the corporations want you to believe.

Here, educate yourself on GMO regulation...
http://www.cfr.org/genetically-modi...ntemporary-european-regulatory-politics/p8688

Who regulates organic food? What does an Organic "label" even mean?

 

[Anonymous]

I think we have gotten to that point. No corporation should be allowed a needless merger or acquisition, let thousands of employees go and then pay their executives millions but it happens all the time. I think there absolutely needs to be caps on executive pay, higher min. wage, caps on insurance claims, simple flat taxes, codes for the amount of business that can be conducted overseas, fewer tax shelters, better policing of the SD/MC populations, incentives to hire disabled and older workers and more. I think you are also very shortsighted in your statement regarding "eat what you want." GMOs are deadly and I do not want my grandchildren growing up having to suffer the health and environmental consequences of the lack of oversight given to GMOs. Drugs require two years of safety testing before they can be used on humans. Foods only require 90 days. We can remove a drug from the market if it is harmful. You cannot take a seed out of the environment once planted. It goes on the wind and spreads. All these new super bugs are largely due to what is in our meat and dairy and NOT what doctors are doing to healthcare patients. You really need to read up and quit looking at mainstream media - it is garbage and feeds you only what the government and the corporations want you to believe.

Who gets to arbitrarily decide if a merger is "needless"? Higher minimum wage only raises the price of goods and guarantees less employees for businesses, especially your beloved small businesses. A flat-tax I will agree with.

 

[Anonymous]

Here, educate yourself on GMO regulation...
http://www.cfr.org/genetically-modi...ntemporary-european-regulatory-politics/p8688

Who regulates organic food? What does an Organic "label" even mean?

Some more educational material regarding GMO regulation...

http://suite101.com/article/how-are-gmos-regulated-a142449

 

[Anonymous]

I did not get much out of your GMO articles. Sorry. I could post hundreds on harm of various GMOs, not all are bad though.

Patent on a Pig (It is a FIVE part series and this is only one link)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1669587865067156619#

German report on Monsanto GM statistical FRAUD - proves the bad research and discusses scientific methods. We ARE consuming harmful proteins on a daily basis in our grain/soy. The findings show GM SOY SHOULD NOT HAVE EVER BEEN APPROVED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joweZ6uM5iY&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHobGDHtq4E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBH88lvlos&feature=related

Monsanto: the Evil Empire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88kA15HOq4&feature=related

GMO: The Scope of the Problem - Cell Invasion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8Y-_p8XSg&feature=related


Center for Food Safety Comments on GM foods
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/geneticall7.cfm

I have no idea who determines if a M/A is needless? But they happen all the time lately. You and I have both seen pharma do it constantly and yet neither company is better off. In fact, usually it makes no difference in the pipeline and just displaces a lot of workers and everyone gets shuffled around. Maybe a review committee if the company has more than 5000 workers.

 

[Anonymous]

I did not get much out of your GMO articles. Sorry. I could post hundreds on harm of various GMOs, not all are bad though.

Patent on a Pig (It is a FIVE part series and this is only one link)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1669587865067156619#

German report on Monsanto GM statistical FRAUD - proves the bad research and discusses scientific methods. We ARE consuming harmful proteins on a daily basis in our grain/soy. The findings show GM SOY SHOULD NOT HAVE EVER BEEN APPROVED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joweZ6uM5iY&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHobGDHtq4E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBH88lvlos&feature=related

Monsanto: the Evil Empire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88kA15HOq4&feature=related

GMO: The Scope of the Problem - Cell Invasion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8Y-_p8XSg&feature=related


Center for Food Safety Comments on GM foods
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/geneticall7.cfm

I have no idea who determines if a M/A is needless? But they happen all the time lately. You and I have both seen pharma do it constantly and yet neither company is better off. In fact, usually it makes no difference in the pipeline and just displaces a lot of workers and everyone gets shuffled around. Maybe a review committee if the company has more than 5000 workers.

GMOs are regulated. If you think GMOs are unsafe, then you are FREE to eat organic food only. There is plenty of evidence that organic food is unsafe... if I were you, I would be demanding that it be pulled-off the market or regulated out of existence or suggesting some huge government coverup which allows it to be sold. There is no reputable scientific proof anywhere that demonstrates organic food being better for you than non-organic. But if you want to pay more for your food, then you are FREE to do so. This is a ridiculous discussion.
Regarding M/A.... the companies should determine what is best. Please explain why you think a M/A happens if it doesn't improve or make better the position of those companies? Do these companies have an incentive to run them into the ground? Does that even make sense? I can't understand people like you.

 

[Anonymous]

I did not get much out of your GMO articles. Sorry. I could post hundreds on harm of various GMOs, not all are bad though.

Patent on a Pig (It is a FIVE part series and this is only one link)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1669587865067156619#

German report on Monsanto GM statistical FRAUD - proves the bad research and discusses scientific methods. We ARE consuming harmful proteins on a daily basis in our grain/soy. The findings show GM SOY SHOULD NOT HAVE EVER BEEN APPROVED!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joweZ6uM5iY&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHobGDHtq4E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SBH88lvlos&feature=related

Monsanto: the Evil Empire
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88kA15HOq4&feature=related

GMO: The Scope of the Problem - Cell Invasion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG8Y-_p8XSg&feature=related


Center for Food Safety Comments on GM foods
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/geneticall7.cfm

I have no idea who determines if a M/A is needless? But they happen all the time lately. You and I have both seen pharma do it constantly and yet neither company is better off. In fact, usually it makes no difference in the pipeline and just displaces a lot of workers and everyone gets shuffled around. Maybe a review committee if the company has more than 5000 workers.

BTW, your links are so BIASED it is SICK.
For example, probably the most legit link you have, center for food safety.... here is their mission: Objectives of the Center

The Center promotes organic foods and sustainable agriculture.

Also, among the issues the organization works on are: genetically modified foods, organic food standards, aquaculture, animal cloning, food irradiation, synthetic hormones (such as bovine somatropin), and mad cow disease.

One of the projects of the Center is organizing The True Food Network, which is a grass-roots action network dedicated to building a socially just, democratic, and sustainable food system. This is where activists can make sure that all critical food safety issues are addressed


THINK MAYBE THEY HAVE AN AXE TO GRIND? THINK MAYBE THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO GAIN BY PROMOTING ORGANIC FOOD? I BET THEY EVEN HAVE LOBBYISTS.

 

[Anonymous]

GMOs are regulated. If you think GMOs are unsafe, then you are FREE to eat organic food only. There is plenty of evidence that organic food is unsafe... if I were you, I would be demanding that it be pulled-off the market or regulated out of existence or suggesting some huge government coverup which allows it to be sold. There is no reputable scientific proof anywhere that demonstrates organic food being better for you than non-organic. But if you want to pay more for your food, then you are FREE to do so. This is a ridiculous discussion.
Regarding M/A.... the companies should determine what is best. Please explain why you think a M/A happens if it doesn't improve or make better the position of those companies? Do these companies have an incentive to run them into the ground? Does that even make sense? I can't understand people like you.

You make absolutely no sense with your organic food is unsafe argument. If you think organic food is unsafe, than you have to assume that GMO food is also unsafe since food is food and regulated the same way. Plus, how are you defining "better for you?" There is a huge cover-up and a reason why many nations will not allow U.S. grains to enter their countries. Have fun drinking milk with pus in it.

On the M/A front, poorly run companies like to buy what they think are companies that offer something they're lacking in goods or services. Often the other company has simply made themselves look good and they really have nothing to offer either. Stockholders and the executives benefit hugely when a poorly run large company buys what appears to be a more promising company. The stock price of the big company takes a leap up and they all sell and make a killing (at some point). Merger happens, employees on both sides are out of work and unemployed, executives make huge bones for such a great business move. There is your incentive.

Two years later the big company is always back where they started b/c they never did the hard work of being truly customer focused or innovative. Then they usually cut more jobs and start looking again to acquire another company that has done a better job of marketing or has one or two products that are appealing. It becomes a vicious cycle and not good business b/c it is lazy business that lines only the pockets of the greedy elite. There is the problem. The super wealthy do NOT create jobs. They spend their money on themselves. I realize you think I sound horrible but you cannot have a country where the middle class shrinks, there are NO frcking jobs, the poor expand and get more hopeless while only the very wealthy really make any money to live and yet they are the ones with all the power. Granted, the big company without the merger would probably be out of business anyway b/c they suck. The problem really is how very corrupt and greedy and ridiculous the pay at the top. I believe CEO/exec pay has gone up by a zillion percent in less than five years, while nothing has been done to make employees better off besides more layoffs.

 

[Anonymous]

Of course my links are bias, you really think a government agency study/article isn't bias, like you link? Get real. I am all for good sound evidence but all of it has been pushed underground. Hence, I get stuck having to use sources that might be less than credible. I dare you watch some of it and tell me it has virtually no merit. The Fox news reporters that did all the reporting lost their jobs and no one would hire them. They eventually went underground and that is what they found, proving that mainstream media is completely controlled by corporate interests.

 

[Anonymous]

Of course my links are bias, you really think a government agency study/article isn't bias, like you link? Get real. I am all for good sound evidence but all of it has been pushed underground. Hence, I get stuck having to use sources that might be less than credible. I dare you watch some of it and tell me it has virtually no merit. The Fox news reporters that did all the reporting lost their jobs and no one would hire them. They eventually went underground and that is what they found, proving that mainstream media is completely controlled by corporate interests.

Seriously.... What corporate interest is served by selling food that virtually kills everybody? You sound like a paranoid loon. We agree that government is corrupt, but your answer is to give them more power. If you understand the Free-Market, then get government out of the way. People won't buy shit that kills them.... That's a bad business model. And if organic crap was so damn great, people would be paving a road to get more of it. The problem is, they're not. So organic freaks have to try and scare people into buying it. Meanwhile, life expectancy has never been higher. You eat what you want and I will do the same. Gotta go, the Black Helicopters are starting to hover outside