Wearing scubs on sales calls

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No scrubs on sales calls. Wear them in the OR. If you need to be comfortable go with Khakis and a polo. I don't buy all the excuses here, its all about wanting to be perceived as a Dr. and you just have to own it, move on and put your scrubs in the hamper. Sales is an excellent profession and we don't need the scrubs to be somebody. The worst is when I see people wear their own scrubs in and change, how do you explain that? That is a wannabe for sure.
Be honest with yourself and walk away from the scrubs, you can do it.
 






You are all pathetic on this thread. Get over yourselves. Do your job, sell, your shit and shut your mouth!!
Your not a doctor for a reason. Everybody knows that, regardless of you wearing scrubs or not. If a pair of ugly scrubs makes you feel bigger than you are, you have real issues.
See a shrink. LMAO
 






Anonymous said:
Ok...so I never post on CP, but I've read this thread a few times and I'm kind of annoyed by people posting on this thread that don't know what they are talking about. I'm not going to take any cheap shots (except on pharma reps of coarse), or argue about making more $ or professionalism or any of that B.S. I'm just going to state the facts.

First, reps who wear scrubs on sales calls do so because they can. Most med / pharma reps are expected to be in suits and as such the rep obliges and puts on a suit. Every suit wearing rep would wear srubs (or something else more comfortable)...IF THEY COULD MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF $. Due to the expectations they wear suits.

With my company most wear scrubs, some areas of the country (i.e. Manhattan) suits are expected, and as such the reps oblige. There is absolutely no correlation between the top reps and their daily attire. Some of our top guys (not Genzyme) wear suits, some business casual, some scrubs, and some even wear jeans. Our #1 guy last year made 450+ and wears scrubs every day. It doesn't matter as long as you build can build relationships, know your sh*t, and of coarse CHANGE upon entering the OR (this seems to be a fact many non OR reps don't seem to grasp).

Those who are posting negatively about scrubs on sales calls are either jealous or ignorant. If you are jealous it's because you too would like to wear scrubs but your job / call points won't allow it. If you are ignorant it's because you don't work in the OR and don't understand. Even those OR reps who wear suits understand, it's the other call points (and lowly pharma reps) who don't get it.

Every OR rep who reads this will agree. Sure some pharma rep is going to post claiming to be in the O.R. but we already know better so please....don't bother.

From an OR reps perspective this discussion is over. You can reply but the entire argument is right here in this post. CP moderator you can end the thread now.
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Why is this thread still going?..the above post pretty much sums it up. Read it and move on.
 






Anonymous said:
Ok...so I never post on CP, but I've read this thread a few times and I'm kind of annoyed by people posting on this thread that don't know what they are talking about. I'm not going to take any cheap shots (except on pharma reps of coarse), or argue about making more $ or professionalism or any of that B.S. I'm just going to state the facts.

First, reps who wear scrubs on sales calls do so because they can. Most med / pharma reps are expected to be in suits and as such the rep obliges and puts on a suit. Every suit wearing rep would wear srubs (or something else more comfortable)...IF THEY COULD MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF $. Due to the expectations they wear suits.

With my company most wear scrubs, some areas of the country (i.e. Manhattan) suits are expected, and as such the reps oblige. There is absolutely no correlation between the top reps and their daily attire. Some of our top guys (not Genzyme) wear suits, some business casual, some scrubs, and some even wear jeans. Our #1 guy last year made 450+ and wears scrubs every day. It doesn't matter as long as you build can build relationships, know your sh*t, and of coarse CHANGE upon entering the OR (this seems to be a fact many non OR reps don't seem to grasp).

Those who are posting negatively about scrubs on sales calls are either jealous or ignorant. If you are jealous it's because you too would like to wear scrubs but your job / call points won't allow it. If you are ignorant it's because you don't work in the OR and don't understand. Even those OR reps who wear suits understand, it's the other call points (and lowly pharma reps) who don't get it.

Every OR rep who reads this will agree. Sure some pharma rep is going to post claiming to be in the O.R. but we already know better so please....don't bother.

From an OR reps perspective this discussion is over. You can reply but the entire argument is right here in this post. CP moderator you can end the thread now.
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OK, your post is probably the most intelligent, knowledgeable reply I have read, but…..

There is an elephant in the room. WHY?

Why do reps wear scrubs? Why do reps wear expensive suits? Why do reps buy the $150 tie, and not the $20 one?

One word. Insecurity.

There was a time I was naive and immature. I wore scrubs in and outside the hospital. Mostly because I thought they made me credible, but also so anonymous people would see me wearing them. I “wanted” people to approach me, and ask me if I was a doctor.

I’m being honest.

I spent over $1000 on each suit, thinking everyone knew how expensive it was. If they know how expensive my suit was, that must mean I’m important.

These things mattered to me. I was insecure.

My life has changed. Those things are not important. I have a four year old son.

I will never be insecure again.
 






Female pharma rep here who rocks skanky business casual (short skirts or a bit of cleavage... never both at the same time... a girl has to have her standards). I happened upon this board because I am interviewing with Genzyme and wanted to get a feel for the corporate culture (and before you tell me that no sample-dropping glorified UPS driver would be considered for this gig, I sold capital equipment before getting into pharma and only took the pharma job so I would have time to get my MBA). I could not restrain myself from commenting... it cracks me up that you think a single drug rep is jealous of you in your scrubs. I call on pain management and orthopedic surgeons now, and I laugh with them at you pretend-doctors in your scrubs and your self-important attitudes doing everything in your power not to be confused with the lowly drug rep. My god have some pride. Before you set foot in a clinic, shower, take the time to shave, and at least put on a button down and tie. You are not fooling anyone into thinking you are a physician and you just look lazy and dirty. And for what it's worth, I'm pretty certain when I'm selling Seprafilm, the doctors will still love my skanky pharma uniform and will listen intently as they are eyeing up my cleavage and staring at my exposed legs (with no pantyhose, of course). Next time you ogle me at the hospital while I am playing on my tablet, be sure to take a picture. It will last longer.
 






couple of things
The above poster YOU GO GIRL you are only providing value added services
Is it against company policy when I wear my scrubs not to wear underwear so all can see my schlanky move side to side
Can you still sell the slushy...
This gig is old and way past prime time
But I love all the banter about scrubs..... WHO CARES
WORK as LITTLE as you can earn as much as you can and enjoy
 












Hello Everyone,

I had a "scub dork" sighting the other day at my son's back to school night. I eff'd with asking what kind of surgeon he was. He said "i'm just a rep".

Thanks,

-Embarassed I used to be one
 






Anonymous said:
What the hell do you guys sell? Is there any reason for you to actually be in an OR?

It's one thing to wear scrubs to work when you are going to spend the entire day in cases. It's another thing if you wear scrubs for shits and giggles because you are going to a hospital.

I am in device and sell implants and capital equipment. I'm in cases a couple days a week. I wear a suit most of the time. But there are days when I'm going to be in the OR all day (7am til whenever) On those types of days, I wear scrubs to work because my suit is going to sit ontop of a locker all day anyway. It's about convenience.
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You said it the best, pal. I have had more clothes ruined in OR locker rooms because the f*cking hospital can not be considerate enough to provide a safe area or any area and accomodations to hang clothes. I will be damned if I am going to fold my suit or clean clothes and stuff them on top of a filthy locker. Some sob once stole my suit from the locker room. So let them laugh if you wear scrubs, who cares? I have had many laughs at the expense of physicians that I have known and met. Some are total douches. Don't get me started with the office help...most are stupid underachievers making a little over minimum wage. Just knowing that makes me laugh each time I see time in the offices.
 






You said it the best, pal. I have had more clothes ruined in OR locker rooms because the f*cking hospital can not be considerate enough to provide a safe area or any area and accomodations to hang clothes. I will be damned if I am going to fold my suit or clean clothes and stuff them on top of a filthy locker. Some sob once stole my suit from the locker room. So let them laugh if you wear scrubs, who cares? I have had many laughs at the expense of physicians that I have known and met. Some are total douches. Don't get me started with the office help...most are stupid underachievers making a little over minimum wage. Just knowing that makes me laugh each time I see time in the offices.

Love,

The Elitist Scrub Dork
 












Scrubs outside of the OR are halloween costumes. Its not about your "suits" and funny it seems to be a "male" choice. You know you want to be viewed as Doctors. Wear your khakis and polo to the OR and seriously stop wearing scrubs you are industry and EVERYONE knows it. Buy a corvette, it will gave you the same feeling as wearing scrubs and is actually more fun.
 






Ha! So true. All you ever see are the little dicks running around in their scrubs.

Anonymous said:
Scrubs outside of the OR are halloween costumes. Its not about your "suits" and funny it seems to be a "male" choice. You know you want to be viewed as Doctors. Wear your khakis and polo to the OR and seriously stop wearing scrubs you are industry and EVERYONE knows it. Buy a corvette, it will gave you the same feeling as wearing scrubs and is actually more fun.
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I think this guy kind of closed the book pn this several years ago. If you dont work in the OR you shouldn't be commenting on this because you have no idea what you are talking about. I wear scrubs 98% of the time. I havent made under 200 in 5 yrs.

Anonymous said:
Ok...so I never post on CP, but I've read this thread a few times and I'm kind of annoyed by people posting on this thread that don't know what they are talking about. I'm not going to take any cheap shots (except on pharma reps of coarse), or argue about making more $ or professionalism or any of that B.S. I'm just going to state the facts.

First, reps who wear scrubs on sales calls do so because they can. Most med / pharma reps are expected to be in suits and as such the rep obliges and puts on a suit. Every suit wearing rep would wear srubs (or something else more comfortable)...IF THEY COULD MAKE THE SAME AMOUNT OF $. Due to the expectations they wear suits.

With my company most wear scrubs, some areas of the country (i.e. Manhattan) suits are expected, and as such the reps oblige. There is absolutely no correlation between the top reps and their daily attire. Some of our top guys (not Genzyme) wear suits, some business casual, some scrubs, and some even wear jeans. Our #1 guy last year made 450+ and wears scrubs every day. It doesn't matter as long as you build can build relationships, know your sh*t, and of coarse CHANGE upon entering the OR (this seems to be a fact many non OR reps don't seem to grasp).

Those who are posting negatively about scrubs on sales calls are either jealous or ignorant. If you are jealous it's because you too would like to wear scrubs but your job / call points won't allow it. If you are ignorant it's because you don't work in the OR and don't understand. Even those OR reps who wear suits understand, it's the other call points (and lowly pharma reps) who don't get it.

Every OR rep who reads this will agree. Sure some pharma rep is going to post claiming to be in the O.R. but we already know better so please....don't bother.

From an OR reps perspective this discussion is over. You can reply but the entire argument is right here in this post. CP moderator you can end the thread now.
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Oh good. Then you can afford the corvette. Making 200 grand has nothing to do with playing dress up. Buy your vette, get your khaki's and a polo with your company's logo on it and leave your scrubs at the hospital.
 






You wake up at 6:00 am and throw on a nice pair of slacks, a long sleeve dress shirt, a tie and a nice pair of dress shoes...even though you have a 7am OR appt. You get to the hospital and you hang your stuff in a locker and change into scrubs. After surgery you throw back on your slacks and your shirt and you go home...or you pack a bag with your workout clothes and put those on after you have finished for the day. Dress clothes go into the bag.

I don't really see what the difficulty in this is. Am I missing something?


*If you have a big time gap in between surgeries and you plan on leaving the hospital,
once again, put your dress apparel back on. It isn't rocket science.

*If you plan on being in the OR all day, with an established client, then you should already
know what he or she expects. If he or she is ok with you showing up in scrubs then so be
it.

*Unless you are going straight home, I do agree that the scrubs should be left behind.
There really isn't a need for them outside of the OR. I understand there are quick runs to
the supermarket, stopping to get gas, etc., etc., but why didn't you just quickly change
out of them before you left the hospital? Exceptions will occur, however; exceptions are
much different then intentionally wearing them for purposes of self gratification.

*When a person is seeking to obtain new business...whether it's the 1st meeting or the
3rd...unless you already work for this person...unless you know what is ok and what is
not...unless the client has told you differently...ALWAYS WEAR A SUIT. I can' even
believe this is something trying to be debated...just remember, you can justify anything if
it's something you WANT to be true, but in the end there are certain unspoken
procedures to follow and "suit=new business" is one of them.
 












Anonymous said:
You wake up at 6:00 am and throw on a nice pair of slacks, a long sleeve dress shirt, a tie and a nice pair of dress shoes...even though you have a 7am OR appt. You get to the hospital and you hang your stuff in a locker and change into scrubs. After surgery you throw back on your slacks and your shirt and you go home...or you pack a bag with your workout clothes and put those on after you have finished for the day. Dress clothes go into the bag.

I don't really see what the difficulty in this is. Am I missing something?


*If you have a big time gap in between surgeries and you plan on leaving the hospital,
once again, put your dress apparel back on. It isn't rocket science.

*If you plan on being in the OR all day, with an established client, then you should already
know what he or she expects. If he or she is ok with you showing up in scrubs then so be
it.

*Unless you are going straight home, I do agree that the scrubs should be left behind.
There really isn't a need for them outside of the OR. I understand there are quick runs to
the supermarket, stopping to get gas, etc., etc., but why didn't you just quickly change
out of them before you left the hospital? Exceptions will occur, however; exceptions are
much different then intentionally wearing them for purposes of self gratification.

*When a person is seeking to obtain new business...whether it's the 1st meeting or the
3rd...unless you already work for this person...unless you know what is ok and what is
not...unless the client has told you differently...ALWAYS WEAR A SUIT. I can' even
believe this is something trying to be debated...just remember, you can justify anything if
it's something you WANT to be true, but in the end there are certain unspoken
procedures to follow and "suit=new business" is one of them.
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So if I wear a suit I will get new buisness. WOW!! I could show up in a clown suit and outsell you or the one being so consumed with their appereance. if you know anything about surgeons most of them really don't care if you have a decent product, good personality, know what you are talking about deal will be closed. I never once had a surgeon ask why I was wearing scrubs. good any clarify why it matters if a surgical rep wears scrubs or a monkey suit. Hell half the time I sleep in my scrubs wake up at 7:00am throw on a baseball cap, and am in my first case by 7:30. they only time I wear a polo is when I am on the glof course. sounds like someone is jealous that they can't sell and someone who wears scrubs everyday is making coin.
 






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