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Vraylar - Nation Not to Goal

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anonymous said:
Do all sales reps find some shadeball pharmacy to falsify medical records to bypass step failure? Asking for a friend...
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I don’t understand why you are knocking this approach. This is just good selling.

If your plan has three generic steps, every doctor needs to act as if their patient has three generic failures. It’s that simple. Quit complaining about managed care

Health insurance is a corrupt mafia, not the police. You do what you gotta do to trick em
 




When the majority of reps aren’t reaching their goals…when the NATION isn’t meeting goal…upper leadership needs to “look within” and stop putting it all the reps. Goals are too aggressive and unrealistic, leading to multiple quarters with small bonuses, leads to low moral while micromanagement increases…you will LOOSE YOUR BEST PEOPLE. Those people know their worth, know how hard they’re working, and WILL LEAVE for more money.

Goals MUST take into account a state’s MANAGED CARE. You CANNOT force rank reps when you’re comparing apples to oranges.

CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE UP TOP. GOALS NEED TO BE A STRETCH, BUT ATTAINABLE. WAKE UP.
 




I’m so tired of leadership dismissing the disparity between large volume territories vs low volume territories and ability to hit high attainment…. Or wide open Medicaid access in a disease state with so many Medicaid lives vs multiple step failures and a PA before it goes through. It’s the same teams winning national spots over and over again when skill or talent have little impact on winning.
 




anonymous said:
When the majority of reps aren’t reaching their goals…when the NATION isn’t meeting goal…upper leadership needs to “look within” and stop putting it all the reps. Goals are too aggressive and unrealistic, leading to multiple quarters with small bonuses, leads to low moral while micromanagement increases…you will LOOSE YOUR BEST PEOPLE. Those people know their worth, know how hard they’re working, and WILL LEAVE for more money.

Goals MUST take into account a state’s MANAGED CARE. You CANNOT force rank reps when you’re comparing apples to oranges.

CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE UP TOP. GOALS NEED TO BE A STRETCH, BUT ATTAINABLE. WAKE UP.
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lol! Reps working hard, ha ha! Quit the whining and actually leave your house and detail 7 docs per day - 5 days Per week.
 




anonymous said:
lol! Reps working hard, ha ha! Quit the whining and actually leave your house and detail 7 docs per day - 5 days Per week.
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This is such an ignorant statement and just shows how out of touch leadership is. The majority of reps are doing these things…and still not meeting the aggressive goals. When the NATION isn’t meeting goals quarter after quarter, the problem is bigger than the reps. Continue ASSuming you know how hard people are working. Motivation is DOWN and plummeting because of leadership and majority of reps not meeting goal. Plain and simple.
 




anonymous said:
This is such an ignorant statement and just shows how out of touch leadership is. The majority of reps are doing these things…and still not meeting the aggressive goals. When the NATION isn’t meeting goals quarter after quarter, the problem is bigger than the reps. Continue ASSuming you know how hard people are working. Motivation is DOWN and plummeting because of leadership and majority of reps not meeting goal. Plain and simple.
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If the reps can't meet their sales goals than they should be fired! Plain and simple! Nobody in HQ respects the sample droppers/caters!!
 












anonymous said:
If the reps can't meet their sales goals than they should be fired! Plain and simple! Nobody in HQ respects the sample droppers/caters!!
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and nobody in the field respects the idiots in HQ who devise the most idiotic call panels with a significant amount of no-see, low potential prescribers that have never written a script of vraylar in 8 years. Then put three reps in a territory to call on the same 50 seeable targets. And the newest brilliant idea HQ has rolled out to grow sales is to have Bag 3 focus on an even shittier target panel. So the folks you should be disgraced with are the moron Executives making $500,000 plus a year in compensation devising such idiotic strategies and wasting company resources. In the meantime, us reps will continue to take our measly $150,000- plus compensation and continue to plug in the phony metrics our RD’s are demanding to make themselves look good. Got to go pick up bagels now
 




anonymous said:
and nobody in the field respects the idiots in HQ who devise the most idiotic call panels with a significant amount of no-see, low potential prescribers that have never written a script of vraylar in 8 years. Then put three reps in a territory to call on the same 50 seeable targets. And the newest brilliant idea HQ has rolled out to grow sales is to have Bag 3 focus on an even shittier target panel. So the folks you should be disgraced with are the moron Executives making $500,000 plus a year in compensation devising such idiotic strategies and wasting company resources. In the meantime, us reps will continue to take our measly $150,000- plus compensation and continue to plug in the phony metrics our RD’s are demanding to make themselves look good. Got to go pick up bagels now
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PREACH!
 




anonymous said:
and nobody in the field respects the idiots in HQ who devise the most idiotic call panels with a significant amount of no-see, low potential prescribers that have never written a script of vraylar in 8 years. Then put three reps in a territory to call on the same 50 seeable targets. And the newest brilliant idea HQ has rolled out to grow sales is to have Bag 3 focus on an even shittier target panel. So the folks you should be disgraced with are the moron Executives making $500,000 plus a year in compensation devising such idiotic strategies and wasting company resources. In the meantime, us reps will continue to take our measly $150,000- plus compensation and continue to plug in the phony metrics our RD’s are demanding to make themselves look good. Got to go pick up bagels now
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Hmmm…bagels…that’s going to get me in my no see shitty bag 3 targets
 




anonymous said:
and nobody in the field respects the idiots in HQ who devise the most idiotic call panels with a significant amount of no-see, low potential prescribers that have never written a script of vraylar in 8 years. Then put three reps in a territory to call on the same 50 seeable targets. And the newest brilliant idea HQ has rolled out to grow sales is to have Bag 3 focus on an even shittier target panel. So the folks you should be disgraced with are the moron Executives making $500,000 plus a year in compensation devising such idiotic strategies and wasting company resources. In the meantime, us reps will continue to take our measly $150,000- plus compensation and continue to plug in the phony metrics our RD’s are demanding to make themselves look good. Got to go pick up bagels now
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Let's be honest, how many sales territories have 50 doctors that will let you in their offices? Crickets! We can't wait for AI/social media replace you grub hubbers! No one can justify their $150K salary in the field. Crickets!
 








anonymous said:
and nobody in the field respects the idiots in HQ who devise the most idiotic call panels with a significant amount of no-see, low potential prescribers that have never written a script of vraylar in 8 years. Then put three reps in a territory to call on the same 50 seeable targets. And the newest brilliant idea HQ has rolled out to grow sales is to have Bag 3 focus on an even shittier target panel. So the folks you should be disgraced with are the moron Executives making $500,000 plus a year in compensation devising such idiotic strategies and wasting company resources. In the meantime, us reps will continue to take our measly $150,000- plus compensation and continue to plug in the phony metrics our RD’s are demanding to make themselves look good. Got to go pick up bagels now
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THIS!!!

MULTIPLE REPS LEFT THIS WEEK ALONE IN THE NORTHEAST. Why is this? Insane micromanagement and pressure, minimal showing of appreciation, all while getting shitty bonuses quarter after quarter….no one except CT is even in top 50%. If this isn’t a red flag to IC dept that goals aren’t fair…I don’t know what is.
 








anonymous said:
Let's be honest, how many sales territories have 50 doctors that will let you in their offices? Crickets! We can't wait for AI/social media replace you grub hubbers! No one can justify their $150K salary in the field. Crickets!
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You sound like a jealous pencil pushing accountant stuck working all day in a cubicle making less $75k a year that just saw a spreadsheets showing that most sales reps are making 2-3 times more than you do a year. You are so clueless to think AI/social media will replace us. We don’t need to justify our salaries. Not everyone can deliver bagels and coffee like we do. Blame the stupid Executives for deciding to make territories smaller while continuing to add more sales reps in the field when access is horrible and Vraylar has been on the market for over eight years.
 




anonymous said:
lol! Reps working hard, ha ha! Quit the whining and actually leave your house and detail 7 docs per day - 5 days Per week.
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Silly you…that would assume EACH rep would actually have 35 prescribers they could physically see in a week. Especially given the fact that a lot of territories have 3 reps calling on the same targets…that would mean the territory would need to have 105 viable targets to call on in a week…now that is funny. You must be one of Susie Brandt’s data entry personnel who is in charge of running the report for reps making less than 7 calls a day. I’ll save you time and tell you that there is no need to run a report as there are ZERO reps on a full team that are realistically making 7 plus calls a day, 5 days a week. But we can plug in whatever numbers management wants so they can justify their jobs.
 




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