Vaccine Mandate - September 30th

This place is so far gone and for me this is the straw that broke the camel’s back.They can’t recruit anyone with half a brain to SSF because nobody with half a brain wants to live there. Their politics and BS D&I is just that ….BS. I have to work with one of the most chauvinistic men I’ve ever met. Now they want to tell people what to do with their body. Sorry Gene but I’ll be tapping out of this Handsmaid Tale. I’ll continue to watch you implode from the sidelines and I hope you don’t think FB, Google and your other tech idols are going to bail you out. And before anyone gets on their high horse about vaccinations…..I’m not an anti-vaxer. These have limited short term safety data and zero long term safety data. They aren’t even FDA approved yet so to mandate them is just ridiculous. I’ve never seen such poor safety reporting in my life and I really hope they are safe long term. Furthermore, anyone who has worked in clinical trials could tell you the efficacy was never going to be the 90+% they claimed. This virus will continue to mutate it’s what they do. It’s not rocket science it’s science combined with common sense.

This is Real ‘Woke’. Finally, people speaking their minds on Genentech hypocrisy. Fight the powers that be!
 




Isn't there a central database that tracks everyone's status? That would be my only concern with a fake card.

170+ million people have been vaccinated in the USA alone. No database can connect all of the states and sites. It doesn't exist and never will exist. Medical records do not track across systems now.
 




Isn't there a central database that tracks everyone's status? That would be my only concern with a fake card.

170+ million people have been vaccinated in the USA alone. No database can connect all of the states and sites. It doesn't exist and never will exist. Medical records do not track across systems now.
 








There is political posturing, without a doubt. But the real reason is that pharma and government just closed the biggest business deal ever… The government wants to conduct the biggest compliance test ever with this pandemic, and to do that they need to buy vaccines/ PCR tests from pharma. In a public emergency, pharma is IMMUNE from liability for any harm from products they rush out… hmmm, huge upside with no downsides…

Mandatory vaccines = greater demand for pharma products. It’s classic I’ll scratch your back if you scratch mine ;), We grant you EUAs, you help us pressure the masses into compliance, which ultimately means more money in your pocket, especially with those booster doses…. It’s a win-win. That’s what they mean by “We’re all in this together”

follow the science? Lol sure we’ll do that… because where money goes, science follows
 




Not surprising in the least, given the “leadership” at GNE. I choose retirement, but they will have to fire me so when the shit hits the fan on these vaccines, I will be part of the class lawsuit.
 




So as long as we provide proof of vaccination, there is no way for them to verify it.

Put it this way...I'm in NYC and I submitted my stuff for the app. No problems. The whole idea of forcing a vaccination on someone is a complete joke. I'm pro Vax- I get a flu shot every year but I also don't care if someone else chooses not to. Plenty of people are anti vax and don't vaccinate their kids they just forge the records and submit to the school- no one checks or could check without you knowing because of HIPPA.
 




Calm down. So many people caught up in conspiracy theories. To be clear on that account, yes he did lose the election. Also, if you choose not to get vaccinated then you have all the freedom in the world...to find another job and potentially die of your own stupidity (while costing society more money to pay for your care before your last breath).
 




Calm down. So many people caught up in conspiracy theories. To be clear on that account, yes he did lose the election. Also, if you choose not to get vaccinated then you have all the freedom in the world...to find another job and potentially die of your own stupidity (while costing society more money to pay for your care before your last breath).

Agree. The virus is non partisans. It doesn’t matter if your a crummy Democrat or Republican. The virus doesn’t discriminate. Please, get vaccinated.

Signed,

An Independent
 




The senior leaders have shown they are complete cowards. They are not following science, they are following dogma.
Shame to see how the left snowflakes here will pile up on anyone who believes in free choice, democracy and transparency. These snowflakes couldn't be more far-right with their hateful and divisive rhetoric.
These idiots are actively celebrating the loss of liberty and growth of authoritarianism. A disgrace to the flag, America would be better off without you. Suggest China or North Korea.
This one is for you, Alexander Hitler, you could have the greatest, most amazing medicine ever created in the history of medicine and it would still be unethical to force other people to take it. FUCK YOU.
 




Agree. The virus is non partisans. It doesn’t matter if your a crummy Democrat or Republican. The virus doesn’t discriminate. Please, get vaccinated.

Signed,

An Independent

It actually does discriminate. Age discrimination. 95% of total deaths per CDC data is over age 50. How many of our reps in the field are over 50? 80% of the deaths are over age 65 and we have zero reps over age 65. If you aren't those age ranges you don't need it.

So no it isn't needed. And most of the people testing positive with the Delta variant are in fact vaccinated so not sure the vaccine is stopping spread. It does stop death and hospitalization. If you are over 65 and can't get vaccinated its your priority to stay safe and socially distance- but even a cold or flu can turn into pneumonia in these people. And is what commonly kills them.
 




Agree. The virus is non partisans. It doesn’t matter if your a crummy Democrat or Republican. The virus doesn’t discriminate. Please, get vaccinated.

Signed,

An Independent

Totally agree - the virus doesn’t discriminate and 99.9% will be fine. And it doesn’t discriminate between the vaccinated or unvaccinated either which is awesome because we were about to face a Sneeches situation with the Stars upon Thars is you know what I mean. But it’s comforting to know that 85% of Icelanders, almost 90% or more of those from Gibraltar, and Israelis are seeing an explosion of cases among the vaccinated! Vaccines work people! I mean...they won’t stop the spread...and sure Iceland’s top epidemiologist is saying they’re looking at 5-15 years now of lockdowns in some form or other...and sure Sydney is a veritable wasteland where you get one hour out of your house... but zero Covid guys!!! We can’t AFFORD to lose a single person! Do you want to kill Grandma!??? What’s wrong with you!?? I mean sure... keep pounding the donuts and we won’t talk about the elephant in the room - how the obese are dropping from Covid because *surprise* weight impacts your inflammatory response! No we shan’t talk about that - that’s offensive!
Just take your shot and shut up - remember they’re “safe and effective” ;-)
 




Let's face it. Covid is not going away. Eventually, everyone will get it.

We can't lock down again and destroy business and families. Yes, lots of case popping up in certain states but cases does not equal death. The media is over hyping this. Most elderly are vaccinated. Most of the young people will have a cold for a couple of days and then it is done.
 




So as long as we provide proof of vaccination, there is no way for them to verify it.

Oh wow. Are you implying that you would falsify information to your employer? Information that could potentially put others you work with at risk during a public health crisis?
I hope someone from GEC sees this and knows they need to consider actually verifying the vaccine attestations now. This makes me very uncomfortable knowing a colleague would ever consider doing this. Totally selfish.
Also - I believe almost everyone stated that they “follow the science” in their ecosystem interviews last year. If that were true you would be listening to the advice of our most intelligent physicians, scientists, and researchers. Not a politician without a medical or scientific background. We have the best and brightest at our fingertips here at Genentech. If you can’t believe what they are telling us, do you really believe in what we do at all? You may want to consider if this is the right company for you.
 




Reality, we are ONLY in Phase 3 with no real accurate pharmaco-surveillance or AE reporting going on under the FDA Emergency Use Authorization.

Spouse works as PharmD at VA and supposed to be managing AE’s and reporting. 1 out 4 colleagues experience AE, however, nobody wants to report!
 




How do you think the conversations with HR will go - do you think they'll fire people immediately after Sept 30 or try to negotiate an alternative working arrangement (e.g. offsite contractor)? Are people starting to look for new jobs?

Yep people are looking for another job, myself included.
Gene has really screwed anyone not wanting to get the jab though…
If you try for the exemption, they delayed that til mid Aug. Then how long til they approve/decline your exemption request, oh and they are the ones that decide. (Not likely). And how long will they take to get an answer back to you? (Slow walk their answer)
If you decide to bite the bullet and get vaxed to save your job, then you really need to start that process early Sep unless you can find the J and J vax.
If you decide to gamble that you wont get “randomly” audited and get selected you are fired.
There just isn’t a lot of time to make alternate arrangements if you choose not to get vaxed, and they know it.

The reality is…
1. Get vaxed
2. Quit.
3. Get fired
Those are your choices.
 












Yep people are looking for another job, myself included.
Gene has really screwed anyone not wanting to get the jab though…
If you try for the exemption, they delayed that til mid Aug. Then how long til they approve/decline your exemption request, oh and they are the ones that decide. (Not likely). And how long will they take to get an answer back to you? (Slow walk their answer)
If you decide to bite the bullet and get vaxed to save your job, then you really need to start that process early Sep unless you can find the J and J vax.
If you decide to gamble that you wont get “randomly” audited and get selected you are fired.
There just isn’t a lot of time to make alternate arrangements if you choose not to get vaxed, and they know it.

The reality is…
1. Get vaxed
2. Quit.
3. Get fired
Those are your choices.

Going with 3 and looking for new positions right now! Had five recruiter calls so far! I didn't imagine this would be how my relationship with Genentech would end. Quite sad. Will definitely miss my team.