Ugly,fat,old,and male need not apply

Why don't you eat a pile of rat killer and wash it down with a glass of anti-freeze.

You old shits just need to stay out of the work force and let us 25 year olds run things.

So, I suppose you're going to find a new career by the time you're 50? Perhaps you will be promoted multiple times, find a nice management position inside and have an admin fetch your coffee every morning? Maybe take Wednesday afternoons off to play golf with the other idle managers? Life will be good. No more worthless and miserable repping for you. Stop watching television. It doesn't work that way.

Your visions of grandeur aside, you had better pray every day that you start seeing older people in your company. Otherwise, just as surely as the clock ticks, you'll be 50 one day too. And yes, there will be brainless 25 year-olds like yourself making the same stupid comments.

Yet, unless you've won the lottery, or fail at the job and get fired, you'll still need to work and you'll be hard pressed to find anything else that offers as much with the same relative independence. If you're 50 or 60 and still employed in this business, congratulations, if you can do it.

The reason there isn't more seniors has more to do with the difficulty of corporate culture than it does with age-discrimination. People simply have an increasingly difficult time playing the game as they mature. It's so repetitive. Every year is the year to take it to the next level. Every sales team is the best in the business. Every DM is the most dedicated leader. Every product is going to save the world. blah, blah, blah.

Instead of companies making the most of the mature employee, exploiting their experience, and allowing lattitude to their routine, they try to maintain a one dimensional approach. Consequently, you see more Ken and Barbies than Professor Dumbledore's.
 
























So, I suppose you're going to find a new career by the time you're 50? Perhaps you will be promoted multiple times, find a nice management position inside and have an admin fetch your coffee every morning? Maybe take Wednesday afternoons off to play golf with the other idle managers? Life will be good. No more worthless and miserable repping for you. Stop watching television. It doesn't work that way.

Your visions of grandeur aside, you had better pray every day that you start seeing older people in your company. Otherwise, just as surely as the clock ticks, you'll be 50 one day too. And yes, there will be brainless 25 year-olds like yourself making the same stupid comments.

Yet, unless you've won the lottery, or fail at the job and get fired, you'll still need to work and you'll be hard pressed to find anything else that offers as much with the same relative independence. If you're 50 or 60 and still employed in this business, congratulations, if you can do it.

The reason there isn't more seniors has more to do with the difficulty of corporate culture than it does with age-discrimination. People simply have an increasingly difficult time playing the game as they mature. It's so repetitive. Every year is the year to take it to the next level. Every sales team is the best in the business. Every DM is the most dedicated leader. Every product is going to save the world. blah, blah, blah.

Instead of companies making the most of the mature employee, exploiting their experience, and allowing lattitude to their routine, they try to maintain a one dimensional approach. Consequently, you see more Ken and Barbies than Professor Dumbledore's.



This was very elegantly put. It's so short sight on the part of pharma. I'm a 20 yr veteran of pharma and I can produce twice the revenue in half the time as a rookie, but they would rather start from scratch. So short sighted. I hope nationalized heathcare kills this industry. I feel betrayed.
 












I`m 55 and I got me some serious coin in the bank. I`m playing this gsme on my time and will not get out until I find me a wife 20-25 years younger than me.



Word of advice... Don't waste your time. Women in this industry are rarely looking to marry another drug rep or manager. Because this is considered to be a good job for a woman, the 20-35 year old women are looking to upgrade just like you are. They want someone in the 300-500k range along with youth and hotness.
 






Word of advice... Don't waste your time. Women in this industry are rarely looking to marry another drug rep or manager. Because this is considered to be a good job for a woman, the 20-35 year old women are looking to upgrade just like you are. They want someone in the 300-500k range along with youth and hotness.

Nah, I don`t buy your BS. I`ve seen first hand a couple of older male reps close the deal on much younger female reps. I`m not talking about 300lb male pigs either. These dudes were 50ish, mature, in shape, and could easily pass for 40. They landed hotties 20 years younger. Trust me its not that hard to do if you have a brain and know how to treat a woman.
 






Nah, I don`t buy your BS. I`ve seen first hand a couple of older male reps close the deal on much younger female reps. I`m not talking about 300lb male pigs either. These dudes were 50ish, mature, in shape, and could easily pass for 40. They landed hotties 20 years younger. Trust me its not that hard to do if you have a brain and know how to treat a woman.

Yeah old-timer, you sound like a real winner. Young chicks are really going to fall all over you. Don't forget to take your Valtrex for that STD, and get your yellow teeth whitened. Young chicks don't like guys with gorilla breath.
 






Yeah old-timer, you sound like a real winner. Young chicks are really going to fall all over you. Don't forget to take your Valtrex for that STD, and get your yellow teeth whitened. Young chicks don't like guys with gorilla breath.

Hey young `lil reppie, you need to respect your elders before you start mouthing off. The "so called" old man on this end would out think you, whip you in any physical challenges and easily pull any woman before you would. You make me laugh.
 






To ALL you young 25 yr old Sh*t for Brains egotistical morons with your $200 suit and company car. Nobody and I mean NOBODY is impressed with your "Sales" ability or the fact you workout and probably have no hair!!Besides you should hear what women say about young guys "Nice equipment BUT No knowledge on how to use it"!!LOL !!Real women want REAL men and a commitment which you guys CAN'T Afford or our not willing to give since your in love with yourself!!Better start thinking on what your going to do after the pharma industry dumbs your ass for television ads!!
 






To ALL you young 25 yr old Sh*t for Brains egotistical morons with your $200 suit and company car. Nobody and I mean NOBODY is impressed with your "Sales" ability or the fact you workout and probably have no hair!!Besides you should hear what women say about young guys "Nice equipment BUT No knowledge on how to use it"!!LOL !!Real women want REAL men and a commitment which you guys CAN'T Afford or our not willing to give since your in love with yourself!!Better start thinking on what your going to do after the pharma industry ditches your ass for television ads!!
 






Thanks Amgen:

14 years of ostoe experience, lots of great phone screens and then a F2F interview then they ditched me. I am 51, male, confident, trustworthy, a bit chunkey with a graying beard.

I hope Amgen falls on its face.

Don't pay attention to these 20 something idiots. They have ruined the industry with their stupidity and inferior intellect. They would never have gotten hired if they had to meet the standards that we had to meet pre-Pharmatard era. Did it ever occur to you that this position is beneath your skills? They want morons like the previous posters who they can control and intimidate. We had the best time in this industry when it was still a good career. There are many other career paths you can take in sales. Do you really want to have to associate with these idiots at meetings? I couldn't stand them anymore so I moved into diagnostics. You can too : ). There is a better life beyond pharma. It will never be a respected profession again in our lifetime. These twentysomethings will be 50 before they know it, and they will still be stupid. Good luck to you.
 






Yeah old-timer, you sound like a real winner. Young chicks are really going to fall all over you. Don't forget to take your Valtrex for that STD, and get your yellow teeth whitened. Young chicks don't like guys with gorilla breath.





They don't like wrinkly, old, penis either. Women want a freshly packaged twinkie and not some old rep penis. BIG $$$, Nice Body, and more power... The power to upgrade. Here we go!
 






They don't like wrinkly, old, penis either. Women want a freshly packaged twinkie and not some old rep penis. BIG $$$, Nice Body, and more power... The power to upgrade. Here we go!


"Twinkie" is slang for gay. I don't think the average woman out on the prowl, would like a Twinkie. Try another flavor.
 






"Twinkie" is slang for gay. I don't think the average woman out on the prowl, would like a Twinkie. Try another flavor.







Please tell me that you're not the brilliant one who keeps ending his sentences with a preposition. Young, hot, power broker penis... the flavor of the new millennium. Try it ladies!! No more pharma tarded complications or Vietnamese imported VD from the 60s! LMFAO;)
 






Please tell me that you're not the brilliant one who keeps ending his sentences with a preposition. Young, hot, power broker penis... the flavor of the new millennium. Try it ladies!! No more pharma tarded complications or Vietnamese imported VD from the 60s! LMFAO;)

No, not the one. But, I always do try to end with a proposition. Better than a preposition!
 






Hey young `lil reppie, you need to respect your elders before you start mouthing off. The "so called" old man on this end would out think you, whip you in any physical challenges and easily pull any woman before you would. You make me laugh.

Sure, tough guy...you can whip anyone, as long as you don't actually have to meet them. You are a keyboard tough guy. Go suck in your stomach and flex in front of your mirror like you do every night by yourself. All the real men I know don't have to tell everyone how manly they are. Apparently you have some drawbacks in that area and have to let everyone know how tough you are. Guys like that always talk tough and get their asses kicked.

Now get out there in time for the early bird special and see if you can "pull" one of the Golden Girls, if they're still alive, that is!
 






They don't like wrinkly, old, penis either. Women want a freshly packaged twinkie and not some old rep penis. BIG $$$, Nice Body, and more power... The power to upgrade. Here we go!

You older raisins will be forced out of the workforce before you drink your next glass of prune juice. Go home and take your 6 plus medications including your viagra.
 






Thanks Amgen:

14 years of ostoe experience, lots of great phone screens and then a F2F interview then they ditched me. I am 51, male, confident, trustworthy, a bit chunkey with a graying beard.

I hope Amgen falls on its face.

We know that wave one was mostly younger girls but they planned on balancing this out on wave two. I am one of the young guys that were hired with these 24 year old girls and see some of the older guys struggling with the computers and software. One older woman already lost her password 3X since she started. She ask the same things over and over again
and gets lost with Amgens many web sites. Another older hag will be in training until hell freezes over and she claims to have 25 years in sales. I think she was selling bull sperm to cattle ranchers?