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What Lilly needs to do is get on more formularies!!! Lilly has NEVER been good at competing against Novo! They continue to brag about getting on big PBMs like ESI because of number of lives yet fail to get on large Regional Plans or any Medicare! Why do ALL Lilly drugs need to be priced higher than our competition??!! I guess it's to pay John's high salary!! Get your head out your *ss and start negotiating!!
 






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What Lilly needs to do is get on more formularies!!! Lilly has NEVER been good at competing against Novo! They continue to brag about getting on big PBMs like ESI because of number of lives yet fail to get on large Regional Plans or any Medicare! Why do ALL Lilly drugs need to be priced higher than our competition??!! I guess it's to pay John's high salary!! Get your head out your *ss and start negotiating!!
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Lilly used to be the market leader in all diabetes meds until we screwed it all away by not manufacturing enough insulin and our docs went without samples for over one year. Novo took over and has never looked back. Way to go Lilly. BTW, all involved in that fiasco got promoted! That is the Lilly way! Just another example of why we are ranked dead last in our industry. One horrific business decision after another, then promote everyone. Yep, that's how it's done.
 






Anonymous said:
What Lilly needs to do is get on more formularies!!! Lilly has NEVER been good at competing against Novo! They continue to brag about getting on big PBMs like ESI because of number of lives yet fail to get on large Regional Plans or any Medicare! Why do ALL Lilly drugs need to be priced higher than our competition??!! I guess it's to pay John's high salary!! Get your head out your *ss and start negotiating!!
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That's an interesting take - why have YOU if they simply negotiate a preferred position on a formulary? You need to learn to sell and quit relying on your formulary to force people to use Trulicity. Don't expect the company to give away the product so that you can feel happy about moving some volume. If Novo is better than Lilly, it's because schmucks like you get outsold every day, not because of formulary position.
 


















Anonymous said:
That's an interesting take - why have YOU if they simply negotiate a preferred position on a formulary? You need to learn to sell and quit relying on your formulary to force people to use Trulicity. Don't expect the company to give away the product so that you can feel happy about moving some volume. If Novo is better than Lilly, it's because schmucks like you get outsold every day, not because of formulary position.
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Wrong, Bozo! How stupid are you! If Victoza is on formulary and Trulicity isn't, even at the second LBC, HCPs aren't going to do a PA! If efficacy is comparable to Victoza but it's once weekly instead of daily, HCPs don't care enough for their patients to do a PA because it takes them too long to get it approved! Plus, an insurance plan won't approve the PA because they haven't failed on Victoza! It's a lose/lose for Lilly! When both Victoza and Trulicity are on plan at the LBC, then let's talk about not being able to sell! Until then, shut your pie hole!!
 






Wow... Being a diabetic who recently tried Trulicity, I wish I would have read this before I tried it. I understand you all have a job to do, but do you realize there are actual PEOPLE behind your stats and stupid bantering back and forth between your companies. You all have lost the perspective that you are supposed to be helping people have a better way of life.
I love the benefits of Trulicity. It is doing what it is supposed to do by lowering my BG levels and my insulin intake, which is a miracle for my extremely insulin resistant body. In saying that, the side effects of being nauseous and loss of energy, due to the nausea, does not really help my jobs of being a wife and caring for my children and my house. If I knew the nausea would diminish after my body adjusts to the new med, then I would stick it out. But if not, I can not lay around the house doing nothing due to the nausea. I need something that is going to help me and allow me to continue with my life schedule and business. My husband said the same, that the results are great, but the effects make him feels like he has lost me.
In all honesty, the attitudes behind this thread makes me want to go to the herbal side of things and try out something that can help me naturally, instead of your manufactured answers. Thanks for an eye opening thread.
 






Anonymous said:
Wow... Being a diabetic who recently tried Trulicity, I wish I would have read this before I tried it. I understand you all have a job to do, but do you realize there are actual PEOPLE behind your stats and stupid bantering back and forth between your companies. You all have lost the perspective that you are supposed to be helping people have a better way of life.
I love the benefits of Trulicity. It is doing what it is supposed to do by lowering my BG levels and my insulin intake, which is a miracle for my extremely insulin resistant body. In saying that, the side effects of being nauseous and loss of energy, due to the nausea, does not really help my jobs of being a wife and caring for my children and my house. If I knew the nausea would diminish after my body adjusts to the new med, then I would stick it out. But if not, I can not lay around the house doing nothing due to the nausea. I need something that is going to help me and allow me to continue with my life schedule and business. My husband said the same, that the results are great, but the effects make him feels like he has lost me.
In all honesty, the attitudes behind this thread makes me want to go to the herbal side of things and try out something that can help me naturally, instead of your manufactured answers. Thanks for an eye opening thread.
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Have you tried Afrezza, and thanks for the intelligent and thoughtful reply.

It's true, Lilly thinks about money first and foremost. No surprise there, Wall Street runs things
 






No, I have not tried Afrezza. I don't believe it is for me either, not interested in snorting insulin. LOL! I am actually on an insulin pump with Humulin R U-500 in it. I can not take metformin, as I was on it at the beginning of my diabetic journey and ended up having a reaction to it. I am currently taking Zija, which is a superfood of morienga olifera. I have had remarkable results with my blood work up. Everything is in range and I feel great since using it. My goal is to reduce my insulin intake now, so I can start losing some of the weight I have gained since becoming diabetic. I am a Type II, but it is a genetic result with my father having had it and all three of my siblings having it also. I was actually looking into the herbal, Berberine, this afternoon after reading all of this pharma-craze. I will talk to my diabetic team though before making any decisions. Trulicity is not exactly out of the running either. I love the results, just not the side effects. Lilly has actually served me well within the years I have been diabetic.
 






Honest replies only. I was able to convert a fair number of docs to Trulicity, but its now a few months later and the head nurses are telling me that it takes a lot of patients a lot longer than 'a few weeks' for the nausea to resolve. Apparently depends on diet and now the docs are pressing back big time... anyone have a similar experience?
 






How about the nausea that a patient has when a doctor walks in with a rocket launcher(Bydureon Pen) that has a 23 gauge needle, that gives you a nodule that you get to experience for months. What a great product!!!! You can't improve on Bydureon!!!!
 






























all glp1 cause nausea. trulicity hands down has the easiest device to use.

the big challenge is just changing habit, doctors agree it is the best device on the market. by far it is
 












Agreed, we have the best device..No question! Having sold in this arena for almost two decades, I hear that our nausea rate is high and many cannot tolerate. I am actually surprised because Victoza nausea rates are similar but patients seem to be able to tolerate. I think the honeymoon period is coming to an end. I think this will be a battle of which GLP-1 has the best managed-care access.
 






this drug is awful, so far every dr. i've had write a scrip, has had a patient complain about awful sickness and vomiting. I feel like I've been spending more time reporting AE's then selling....

This class is stacked, so why would a Dr. write a drug that he knows will make his patients sick? This nausea is going to destroy the drug.

someone mentioned that they under reported nausea in trials... I believe it because I'm seeing something closer to 50%-65% of the patients reporting nausea, not 20% like the studies claim.
 






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