If I’m not mistake, GI Joe took care of Cobra. They also handled Destro.
now you know. And knowing is 1/2 the battle.
Yo Joe!
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If I’m not mistake, GI Joe took care of Cobra. They also handled Destro.
now you know. And knowing is 1/2 the battle.
Yo Joe!
Received Cobra info Thursday. Very small section to sign (on back) , approx in middle of the stack. Sign, mail in your own envelope and you're good
so is porn. Less chance of getting caught. Just make sure you clean up your keyboard, and clear your cache after you clear your ‘ahem’.
Was it 500 people that were let go? What WAS the final number?
Responding to 40 year rep.. laid off by AZ IN December. 20 years w/ Merck, another 11 with BMS/AZ.
It’s been a good run. I can’t believe how someone could be so negative about your post. Sounds like insecurity/jealousy from a disgruntled employee. We all know that layoffs can happen at anytime. This is a tough world. I’m sure the snowflake that attacked you didn’t have a great run like you and I did. And yes Merck started the arms race and Pfizer followed suit. I have worked with many wonderful people in my career and a few Jackasses like the one who attacked you. Most of the Docs I have called on were great people as well, only a few that were total jerks.
It’s been a good run. I can’t believe how someone could be so negative about your post. Sounds like insecurity/jealousy from a disgruntled employee. We all know that layoffs can happen at anytime. This is a tough world. I’m sure the snowflake that attacked you didn’t have a great run like you and I did. And yes Merck started the arms race and Pfizer followed suit. I have worked with many wonderful people in my career and a few Jackasses like the one who attacked you. Most of the Docs I have called on were great people as well, only a few that were total jerks.
Just thinking about all you PRID#'s out there. I hope you are doing well.
I hope that more PRID #s aren't going to expire this December. It is a true fear.
If you are a result of downsizing, like I was last December/ AZ rep over 14 years, it's not east at all to get back in pharma. The job market has changed from wanting experience to wanting entry level reps, no experience, to save #.
In my state alone, because of changed, no less than 4-5 openings! Not one call from AZ asking to consider coming back. Severance package doesn't allow to be rehired for a year.
In my state alone, because of changed, no less than 4-5 openings! Not one call from AZ asking to consider coming back. Severance package doesn't allow to be rehired for a year.
I know what you are saying is true. It is hard to get back into pharma once you are out. It's like they treat you like an outcast, an undesirable that the company must have not wanted to keep. These are terrible times. I can only imagine what it must be like looking for a job. If they make more cuts, others will be in your shoes. Keep the faith. It may be a while, but better times will come - eventually.
Completely agree with pvs. posts. Its as though relationships do not matter, experience doesn't matter, tenure means nothing, successes mean nothing, rankings mean nothing.
What does matter now? The inexperienced, entry-level jobs with less $. That's what they seek.
If you were one of those in Diabetes, well, good luck.
Most of the new jobs/research are trending towards Respiratory/CNS type positions.
Diabetes and Oncology used to be the "hot spots" , but no more.
The last thing in demand is a T2D primary care rep that discussed Farxiga.
"Recent experience within a specific, targeted therapeutic area" is the key. Yes, very frustrating. Have heard horror stories of reps taking over 1 year to get back in pharma. Good reps, not the bottom 20%.
What does matter now? The inexperienced, entry-level jobs with less $. That's what they seek.
If you were one of those in Diabetes, well, good luck.
Most of the new jobs/research are trending towards Respiratory/CNS type positions.
Diabetes and Oncology used to be the "hot spots" , but no more.
The last thing in demand is a T2D primary care rep that discussed Farxiga.
"Recent experience within a specific, targeted therapeutic area" is the key. Yes, very frustrating. Have heard horror stories of reps taking over 1 year to get back in pharma. Good reps, not the bottom 20%.
Not disagreeing but the pharma world has changed and if you don't see it, it's because you don't want to see it.
The vast majority of us are simply not needed and that's the bottom line. Better line up a plan B, C, and D or you're in for a rude awakening.
No the vast majority of us are not needed but management KNOWS THEY CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT US! They have tried numerous times to come up with something to replace face to face sells but they can’t and won’t.
Don't agree. "Face to face" selling? LOL in a typical day how many "face to face" selling is done by a typical rep? I'm not talking about a "hello doc" call or "can you sign this doc" call. I'm about a real selling call. My bet is less than one call a day average for the entire sales force. Pharma sales forces are a cost center. Since the industry including AZ makes obscene profits management looks the other way. They are afraid if they significantly cut the sales force Wall St. would react negatively towards this news. Senior managers live and die with the stock price. Every pharma sales rep with an IQ about 50 and two weeks of experience knows we could easily cut the sales force by 50% and not lose one script. I won't go into the reasons why you all know the reasons. I believe they will cut 500 reps in December. Save significant money and not catch the attention of Wall Street. I'd love to hear your opinion on this.
"It is very difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
Upton Sinclair
I nearly doubled my total comp and landed in a much better culture. Best thing that happened to me was getting the AZ boot last December.