The Quality of Field Managers at Vanda

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Not just the CTI, the heavy push for Hetlioz intakes is another example of managerial Incompetence. Even the DSM V states there are only very few patients in the world with true Non-24 and the way we are being pushed to generate intakes as if every office is sitting on truckloads of non-24 patients. Why aren't authorities noticing this blatant illegal push by Vanda management???
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They are definitely noticing. These things take time.
 






anonymous said:
They are definitely noticing. These things take time.
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Well hopefully the axe falls on Vanda soon... Between the desperation for more intakes ( which only a few people are generating) and the pathetic attempt at begging for more Fanapt scripts from non realistic targets... The insanity must stop....

Please help us NOW.
 






anonymous said:
Well hopefully the axe falls on Vanda soon... Between the desperation for more intakes ( which only a few people are generating) and the pathetic attempt at begging for more Fanapt scripts from non realistic targets... The insanity must stop....

Please help us NOW.
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Vanda meaning Mihales GP and Tom will always make the unethical and illegal demands verbally not in writing. The feds like it in writing but they will also accept voice recordings. Notes are also great if detailed and match the notes of others being threatened by DSMs. The DSM / ANSR collaboration on the fraud is what they like the best.
 






anonymous said:
Vanda meaning Mihales GP and Tom will always make the unethical and illegal demands verbally not in writing. The feds like it in writing but they will also accept voice recordings. Notes are also great if detailed and match the notes of others being threatened by DSMs. The DSM / ANSR collaboration on the fraud is what they like the best.
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I took pictures at the last meeting. Sitting through a session coaching us to sell against the sleep agents. What a misguided place to be. Sorry. You can’t train or compare us to Ambien? WTH
 






anonymous said:
I took pictures at the last meeting. Sitting through a session coaching us to sell against the sleep agents. What a misguided place to be. Sorry. You can’t train or compare us to Ambien? WTH
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Dr P wants sales and GP and Tom and the regional stooges will go to any length to get sales for him. They all stick their middle finger in the air to the FDA as they think they are above the law. My manager coaches daily that if Ambien or is not working, its a Hetlioz patient. Oh, the box on the intake form that says the patient has non 24. He says to go ahead and have that checked in advance. Now that he lost his top Hetlioz rep, he is in full panic mode.
 






anonymous said:
Dr P wants sales and GP and Tom and the regional stooges will go to any length to get sales for him. They all stick their middle finger in the air to the FDA as they think they are above the law. My manager coaches daily that if Ambien or is not working, its a Hetlioz patient. Oh, the box on the intake form that says the patient has non 24. He says to go ahead and have that checked in advance. Now that he lost his top Hetlioz rep, he is in full panic mode.
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Sounds like Keith from Michigan. He ran the Hetlioz “coaching” session at the meeting. ALL off label coaching-
 






Purdue Pharma used to think they are untouchable, safe and secured and the result: they are completely destroyed, finished because they crossed every ethical line in promoting OxyContin and destroying millions of lives. they had complete disregard towards ethical guidelines and ethical standards in selling within the labeling. How's Vanda different in their total disregard towards the product Labeling especially in regards to Hetlioz?
 






Those of you that are unhappy at Vanda (which I would assume is about 99% of the employees)...are you all applying for jobs, interviewing, doing everything that you can to get out of there? It will take a while to find a decent job. Be proactive and apply to positions that you would normally not apply for. Reach out to contacts on Linked-In. Don't wait for an email from an Indeed hit: by then, 50 people will have applied for that position. BE PROACTIVE EVERY DAY!!! Good luck, I wish you all the best in getting out of there. It is such a bad company.
 












anonymous said:
Purdue Pharma used to think they are untouchable, safe and secured and the result: they are completely destroyed, finished because they crossed every ethical line in promoting OxyContin and destroying millions of lives. they had complete disregard towards ethical guidelines and ethical standards in selling within the labeling. How's Vanda different in their total disregard towards the product Labeling especially in regards to Hetlioz?
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It took several years for Purdue to be exposed. They were paying top salaries and bonuses to their reps. Therefore, there weren't any whistleblowers. They got tracked through controlled substance misuse monitoring. Vanda will only be found through whistleblower/s. Not sure if anyone have enough documented evidence to report them.
 






anonymous said:
Those of you that are unhappy at Vanda (which I would assume is about 99% of the employees)...are you all applying for jobs, interviewing, doing everything that you can to get out of there? It will take a while to find a decent job. Be proactive and apply to positions that you would normally not apply for. Reach out to contacts on Linked-In. Don't wait for an email from an Indeed hit: by then, 50 people will have applied for that position. BE PROACTIVE EVERY DAY!!! Good luck, I wish you all the best in getting out of there. It is such a bad company.
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Good advise. I Second that.
Unfortunately, Vanda is not a company where other employers will come out looking for talent. Not a possibility. Being proactive is the way to go!!
 






anonymous said:
Nope!

I’ve thought for a long time that Vanda has trouble making payroll so that is why they are desperate for lower salaried employees and Hetlioz intakes.

Ever wonder why the bonuses are almost always late and most definitely always shady in terms of the numbers?
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Seriously...you are a tool. Vanda has plenty of money. Look at the cash reserves. It's ok to hate on a company, Vanda does suck big time, but don't come on and make idiotic statements that are so far from the truth. Your ignorance makes you look worse than them...and that would be pretty bad
 






anonymous said:
Seriously...you are a tool. Vanda has plenty of money. Look at the cash reserves. It's ok to hate on a company, Vanda does suck big time, but don't come on and make idiotic statements that are so far from the truth. Your ignorance makes you look worse than them...and that would be pretty bad
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You are so rude and insulting and you are the idiotic tool if you believe the made up financials about Vanda!

Don’t even get me started on how Vanda is funneling money into the “foundation” for Hetlioz scripts.

And, why do they screw the sales reps over and over again if they have the cash reserves that they claim to have?
 






they screw the field because they have no regard for us and see no value in us or our experience. that is evidenced by the continued posting for associate reps. They have money, just not for you us.
 






anonymous said:
they screw the field because they have no regard for us and see no value in us or our experience. that is evidenced by the continued posting for associate reps. They have money, just not for you us.
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They are doing lots of shady crap to look good on paper but they are rather cash poor.

It’s just like they way that they manipulate numbers and don’t pay people for all of their scripts or intakes.
 












anonymous said:
Seriously...you are a tool. Vanda has plenty of money. Look at the cash reserves. It's ok to hate on a company, Vanda does suck big time, but don't come on and make idiotic statements that are so far from the truth. Your ignorance makes you look worse than them...and that would be pretty bad
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One large FDA fine and the cash reserves and the company are GONE.
 


















anonymous said:
Sounds like Keith from Michigan. He ran the Hetlioz “coaching” session at the meeting. ALL off label coaching-
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Keith... The choir boy that says to us to have only one or two drinks at a meeting and go to bed early but then runs a session for us blessed by GP Tom and Jen that is telling us to blatantly violate federal law. Is this for real?
 






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