THANKS FOR THE BELLY LAUGH! I love it! Hope your Eagle Scout had been primed on the make and model of his targets ride! That's god territory level information necessary to "GROWTH THROUGH INNOVATION!"
THE "ALL DAY LIE", BEGINNING A NEW TRADITION AT AZ!
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THANKS FOR THE BELLY LAUGH! I love it! Hope your Eagle Scout had been primed on the make and model of his targets ride! That's god territory level information necessary to "GROWTH THROUGH INNOVATION!"
over 150,000 views for this thread which, I believe makes in the most viewed thread on Cafepharma! Why is it so popular? Because it strikes a chord with everyone! Most of AZ’s employees have adopted the ALL DAY LIE as SOP. It’s now so natural and apart our lives, that we automatically follows the edicts of the LIE which is to fake calls and go home early! Congratulations to THE BIGGEST AZ THREAD ON CP!
I don't "all day lie" it goes against my grain. I've been with the company a long time and what happened in December really hurt me. I wasn't fire but many friends were. Many damn good reps fired because the account director didn't get the product on formulary. Also many of these fired people were senior people with high salaries and pension costs. I've lost a lot of my work ethic watching what is happening to this once great company. I won't bore you with details you know what I mean. I've now seen the light and have started a side business which I grow on AZ time. This is to protect my family when the AZ Turk comes for me. If you're not either seriously looking for another job or building a side business you are either stupid, lazy or have your head in the sand. Brothers and Sisters....wake up this company culture is beyond saving.
You don’t “all day lie” yet you “started a side business which I grow on AZ time”. You are confused, aren’t you? Or perhaps you ARE the all day lie. LOL.
Sorry for being unclear. I give AZ time in the field to get the job done. You and I both know you have a lot of free time to devote to other things. Some reps go home, others work out, others drink coffee....I have a business I'm growing. It's an all cash business with no employees in my territory close to home. It does require daily maintenance that's easily done during the day.
well, with few samples to support a message, it’s really more about a call than sample drop. A sample drop is a thing of the past. Heck, most could be gone in 1 week.
It’s the biggest thread on CP for a reason, because we can all identify with it. I literally do not know a single person with AZ that works a true 8 hour day. I do my adnmin all on AZ’S time. I go to the gym on AZ’S time. I take my kids to wherever they need to go on AZ’S TIME. I lie about half the calls I make because access is horrible and we bring docs nothing of value anymore. I meet friends for an afternoon movie every now and then. I will get a jump on a vacation by leaving a day early and fake the entire days calls.
I am a cheat. I have never faked a sample signature. I am neither proud nor embarrassed about my actions. I don’t even think one way or the other about what I am doing. It’s all so automatic. My manager always leaves at noon, thank God, because he/she is 100% useless and it’s just unsaid that we cover each other. It’s just the way things are now.
Let's face it.....the money is great so are the benefits. Lots of freedom work with a manager once a month. That's better than in an office having the boss each day. Let's not kid ourselves we have very little influence on sales. Those of you that think we help patients and doctors in anyway are just wrong. Upper management knows if they significantly cut the sales force their job could be in jeopardy. Also, wall street likes to hear how many sales calls were made on a product. It's all bullshit. You have two choices--play the silly game, cash your check and have no worries but be prepared when they fire you. The other choice is to leave now and get a job that you find more "fulfilling."
I got up this morning as usual with the intention of working a couple of hours. But today is going to be a beautiful day for ...FISHING! I just can’t go out and call on my asshole docs today! The ALL DAY LIE controls me completely, and I will admit it! Time to hit the lake!!
I got up this morning as usual with the intention of working a couple of hours. But today is going to be a beautiful day for ...MAN on MAN ANAL just can’t wait to get my asshole pumped today. The ALL DAY GAY fest controls me completely, and I will admit it! Meet me on political board
It controls all of us! Got a 9 am tee time, and the day will be gorgeous! I swear, working 3 hours a day and screwing around the rest is as addictive as crack! I thought I would have been caught long , long ago, but now I think it’s my destiny to be a ALL DAY LIE person the rest of my career!
Remember the wise words of George Costanza...."it's not lie if you believe it." I believe I made each and every call I report!!!!
100000%. And ZS KNOWS ALL OF THIS. the final decision maker for cuts at the end that are orchestrated more and more frequently
The last thing I worry about is getting caught faking calls. I have done it since the merger with AstraMerck. It’s sooo easy that you would be a fool not to do it daily. Just use a little common sense. It’s all so much better if your manager comes in for a couple of hours for a “field ride”, and then leaves. That tells you they are avid believers in the ALL DAY LIE! Life is great when everyone is on the same page!
What must managers have to come up with to 'fill their day'... former rep here....I was low maintenance rep..did my job, knew product, docs etc.. but also knew the 'all day' lie routine...
My managers would usually meet in morning, maybe grab coffee , 'discuss' territory business...something like...DM 'Oh I see your share moved up 1.2% since last quarter..mmmh', Me 'Sure, lot of hitting my key accounts with proper messaging, really got my counterparts to get on message...key lunches paying off!" --really tee'd this type talk up for them to put in their report...making it easy for them...
Off to the 2 offices that would still see reps...lunch with more good corporate talk and how the kids..manager would linger over dessert and then say "I got a conference call and long drive back home...see you next time...' really what else can they do?
My managers would usually meet in morning, maybe grab coffee , 'discuss' territory business...something like...DM 'Oh I see your share moved up 1.2% since last quarter..mmmh', Me 'Sure, lot of hitting my key accounts with proper messaging, really got my counterparts to get on message...key lunches paying off!" --really tee'd this type talk up for them to put in their report...making it easy for them...
Off to the 2 offices that would still see reps...lunch with more good corporate talk and how the kids..manager would linger over dessert and then say "I got a conference call and long drive back home...see you next time...' really what else can they do?
Man, got up early with good intentions on putting in at least half-a-day today, but damn, i am frozen and can’t bring myself to get moving! It’s almost like a full blown depression. Looks like today will be another ALL DAY LIE!
Pharma is nothing more than a corporate welfare system. Get paid to do almost nothing. It's amazing!