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It's happening to me and it is blatant.

Report: Age Discrimination High Among Pharma Sales Reps

Age discrimination is rife among pharmaceutical job seekers, according to anecdotal evidence gathered by MedZilla, a popular jobs database for workers in the biotech, pharma, healthcare and medical sector.

According to John Burkhardt, director of operations at the company, pharma companies are increasingly hiring younger and younger employees, based on what job seekers have said.

And in the MedZilla forums, frustrations are high among older job seekers over being told that they are "too experienced" or that the company is trying to "develop younger talent."

In these cases, Burkhadt advises to consider changing sectors entirely. There is a growing need for health care jobs serving older citizens, often creating demand for more experienced salespeople who can relate better with older customers.

Another option is to go back to school to brush up on skills. As digital capabilities become more and more important in the sales profession, including the use of social networks for lead generation, or new software for organizing prospects, employers may look at older candidates as being too out of touch.

If you're an older salesperson, you would do well to make sure you're familiar with digital skills and new technologies. Being labeled a "dinosaur" just doesn't sound so pleasant.

This is crazy stuff, and very real, and very unfortunate. There is more age discrimination than any other discrimination in this industry.

It is smart to milk whatever you can out of this industry, but when you get downsized, then finding another industry is the way to go.

In fact, it is probably smarter to just transition out of pharma sales and into other sales jobs (I really like food sales, and think that is where true sales people end up) OR move into another career through schooling, like getting into IT or nursing or PA or MBA degree.
 






stupid, that is discrimination.

of course it happens all the time, and the reason they probably took a younger rep is:

a. salary expectations will be reasonable.

b. younger reps are easier to control.

c. pharma has no integrity.

I am surprised more of these "older" reps don't sue. They should, as they would put these companies in their place and these discrimination practices can stop.

Report them to the EEOC....as I am. They asked for your date of birth on the application. This is illegal.
 












Anybody know what's going on with this contract or when interviews with the client will take place? I haven't heard anything since my face-to-face with the Publicis Manager.
 






Yeah. I wonder too cuz training was supposed to take place next month. They sure don't live to give much notice. Did anyone get a job? Or did they change their minds and decide not to hire?
 






I heard F2F will be at the end of the month. There is 1 place per district where they will be doing interviews and if you live too far, you may be doing it via phone or skype.
I think the PSS recruiter has been very communicative.
 






had meeting last week with publicis manager and he hadn't heard anything yet about dates of f2f with pfizer. it seems as though pfizer is keeping publicis in the dark until everything is finalized
 






had meeting last week with publicis manager and he hadn't heard anything yet about dates of f2f with pfizer. it seems as though pfizer is keeping publicis in the dark until everything is finalized

Yes that is what concerns me. Pfizer....Publicis can't even mention Pfizer or the product its all so secretive yet all you have to do is google it and its all over the internet.
 






I also heard back from the recruiter and was told that I would have a second interview next week. I really don't trust PSS or Pfizer but I really need this job. Does anybody have any add'l info (ie launch, number of contract reps, etc.).
 






I also heard back from the recruiter and was told that I would have a second interview next week. I really don't trust PSS or Pfizer but I really need this job. Does anybody have any add'l info (ie launch, number of contract reps, etc.).

Why do reps have interviews and then come to cafe pharma looking for answers you should get during the interview process?
 






You will mirror a pfizer rep and launch a drug that is the first oral med of its kind. The problem is going to be managed care is going to make it a prior auth because they will want patients to go to the older drugs first. These drugs cost thousands!! a year but are IV or injection, Pfizer's is not but it will cost thousands as well. Not an easy sell and definitely not Pfizer's best and brightest selling this drug. Lots of people shuffled over to this division a long time ago and have been sitting around not doing much for a long time. This is expected to be big so you will have to sell, sell , sell and not sure if your Pfizer counterpart can - just sayin
 






don't trust Pfizer or Publicis. Your new COO is from Pfizer - fired for doing the naughty with someone who worked for her and then expensing the hotel rooms and meals!!!
 






This is nuts! I was told that training starts on July 30. Today is July 17th. So that means that training starts in 13 days, which is less than 2 weeks away! I know it begins with home study, but come on! They have to give people more notice than this!
 






RE: Training starts on July 30th

"Timeline/Schedule" has been delayed about a month. I was informed of this at my f2f. Meet-n-greets next week 23rd, offers quickly after that
 






Did they post for these positions all over or just select areas? I noticed in some parts there were still openings. Didn't notice anything in the western states. Thanks for any info.
 






I was told Meet and Grets will probably be the week of the 30th .
I think the reason that they may have jobs still posted is others have either dropped out or failed background check.
 






I have an interview next week. I was told by the recruiter that training might not start until Sept--said that they are behind on interviewing. Was told that the base pay was 'generous' that that about 70ish or so reps will be hired on this contract. I am hoping the pay is north of $75, territories are going to be big plus we will be labeled 'specialty' so the pay should be higher. Sounds like they are in a bit of a rush.
Not sure if the drug Tofacitinib is approved or not which might also be the delay.

Anyone want to fess up their pay/what their offer was? Thanks!
 






Anyone hear anything following an interview this week? Utilizing a "training manager " to screen candidates is ridiculous....the guy had no clue as to what the Rheum marketplace is like in my geography. He was expressionless....could not deviate at all from his requisite STAR questions.

Where did you interview? Did they use training managers everywhere? I also had a training manager. I interviewed in Chicago. I thought he was fine and actually helpful with the STAR questions if I got off track he steered me back.

I have been contacted and told I made it through to the 2nd round but they are unsure when they will be, probably August at this point. They are waiting for the drug to be approved.

As far as the pharma industry, I was laid off in 2010 and been in several other industries trying to make a living since then. It's worse out there, micro management, no or expensive benefits, salaries in the 40's and 70-80 hour weeks. I would love to make 70 have benefits and work 40 hours. Just a note, i was making 6 figures before I was l aid off fro pharma in 2010.
 






I have an interview next week. I was told by the recruiter that training might not start until Sept--said that they are behind on interviewing. Was told that the base pay was 'generous' that that about 70ish or so reps will be hired on this contract. I am hoping the pay is north of $75, territories are going to be big plus we will be labeled 'specialty' so the pay should be higher. Sounds like they are in a bit of a rush.
Not sure if the drug Tofacitinib is approved or not which might also be the delay.

Anyone want to fess up their pay/what their offer was? Thanks!

I can tell you the pay is not north of 75k, go south by 5k.