Reprocessing Study

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Does Ascent open the device up and disassemble the product down to it's original components each time it cleans it? No. Then how can you claim these devices are clean?

With all the differences between similar devices, I'd like to see how this fly by night company validated the cleaning and sterility of each product. I would bet big money they didn't test each companies product they claim they can clean.
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Fly by night??? Hilarious! That's what you are telling the docs at your sponsored dinners. Which is fine, we may lose a little business now with your stupidity. But, they will come back once they see the facts. Nice ad by the way: "Take a closer look." I lost business for two weeks on the scalpal, until I showed them the studies were done in an Oklahoma facility (partially owned by J&J) and a facility in Canada (outside FDA jurisdiction). The doc scoffed and shook his head. He also asked me about the FDA website his Ethicon rep pointed him to that said reprocessing of class 3 devices is not recommended. My response: "And yes sir, I agree with you. We shouldn't reprocess class 3 devices. That is why we only stick to class 1 and 2. Dr, the rep who pointed you to this loves giving you partial info and letting get upset that your hospital allows these devices back in your cases. But, keep in mind, they don't have the balls to take anything to the FDA."
Because then Ascent would get a clearence letter from the FDA and all this brew haha would be over.
 






Anonymous said:
Fly by night??? Hilarious! That's what you are telling the docs at your sponsored dinners. Which is fine, we may lose a little business now with your stupidity. But, they will come back once they see the facts. Nice ad by the way: "Take a closer look." I lost business for two weeks on the scalpal, until I showed them the studies were done in an Oklahoma facility (partially owned by J&J) and a facility in Canada (outside FDA jurisdiction). The doc scoffed and shook his head. He also asked me about the FDA website his Ethicon rep pointed him to that said reprocessing of class 3 devices is not recommended. My response: "And yes sir, I agree with you. We shouldn't reprocess class 3 devices. That is why we only stick to class 1 and 2. Dr, the rep who pointed you to this loves giving you partial info and letting get upset that your hospital allows these devices back in your cases. But, keep in mind, they don't have the balls to take anything to the FDA."
Because then Ascent would get a clearence letter from the FDA and all this brew haha would be over.
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Who cares, you are still a trash collector!
 


















the question should be how little do you work and how much do you make . The objective should be to work very little and have other people working for you. You guys are all rookies, you cant control any of this process .
SHUT UP
 






Anonymous said:
Wow, nice comeback. I sense your frustration you doodie head.
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Trash collector, shouldn't you be picking up HIV blood soaked Harmonics from the trash can right now? No frustration, I just find it funny that you went to college to end up being a medical waste trash collector...I mean hospital savings specialist or whatever you want to be device reps call yourselves.
 






PATHETIC, both of you babies . He is not a trash collector and EES guys are not sales people. Both of you are grunts , or admin at best . Lets see, contract , contract , and oh contract . WAKE up both companies will tell you how much you will make ( notice I did not say EARN) . Unless you sell and get paid on dollar 1 that does not mean growth but every dollar you sell, you are not earning money . I am a former rep and manager for both companies.
Enjoy and appreciate what you do or get out . Neither 1 of you will effect the outcomes of either the surgeon or the hospital .....IN FACT both companies increase costs. Hard costs not soft dollars that you show they will save .....
Oh if you are not earning more than 250K you are waisting your time. I agree with the other poster the objective should be to earn more and work less.
Guess you are doing that while you are standing in a case or looking through red bins. Meanwhile I am doing what ever I want to do while I have others working for me .

LMAO
 






ASK HARRY SPILKER, if he ever sold these items during staplegate. Harry tell us all how you got promoted and the rest of your team got caught for what you did.. HHHMMM wonder why he can never look anyone in the eyes. Harry are you still looking over your shoulder. Lets see the Pharmed boys are gone . How is it your territory always had increases ...oh thats right they overreported all of your sales . You were terrible as a manager and you are worse as a manager.
PS Why is it that even your own division does not want you in a hospital. We know your history and you are not respected .
Take the watch off and put socks on.
 






Anonymous said:
PATHETIC, both of you babies . He is not a trash collector and EES guys are not sales people. Both of you are grunts , or admin at best . Lets see, contract , contract , and oh contract . WAKE up both companies will tell you how much you will make ( notice I did not say EARN) . Unless you sell and get paid on dollar 1 that does not mean growth but every dollar you sell, you are not earning money . I am a former rep and manager for both companies.
Enjoy and appreciate what you do or get out . Neither 1 of you will effect the outcomes of either the surgeon or the hospital .....IN FACT both companies increase costs. Hard costs not soft dollars that you show they will save .....
Oh if you are not earning more than 250K you are waisting your time. I agree with the other poster the objective should be to earn more and work less.
Guess you are doing that while you are standing in a case or looking through red bins. Meanwhile I am doing what ever I want to do while I have others working for me .

LMAO
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Did you really just say that 97% of Americans are wasting their time? You are one of them. I mean this board is a waste of time, so way to out yourself George Michael.
You sure talk hard and although I only made $132k last year, I have never given the thought of typing LMAO off on any board or to any of my reps.
 






















































I have two problems with reprocessing, one) it would be interesting to see the exact qualification required for a 510k specification on a device. Clearly any reprocessing agency couldn't test to the same specifications as the original manufacturer as they wouldn't have them. I don't buy the reports that reprocessed devices have less reported incidents and are therefore safer, doctors and nurses expect less from them and therefore report less.

Second) reprocessing is a unique business niche that is neither green or an efficient human activity. It takes $1.50-2.50 to make a new trocar that sells for $25-$100. To spend all that effort learning how to clean, transporting each unit, cleaning, and repackaging may save the hospital $20 but costs our economy because it's less efficient then the assembly lines of the manufacturer. The only advantage reprocessors have is they don't have to spend so mch money on R&D, and sales staff because someone else is paying for that for them!

In America, we allow this kind of competition - but too much of it in the wrong ways can make us inefficient as a society which will decrease overall economic wealth.
 






Ok, I get what you are saying. WE ALL KNOW THAT ALREADY!!!

What solutions do have for us out in the field struggling with our number, due to reprocessing?

Solutions people, please!!
 












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