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Anonymous said:
Would they be able to do that without changing the policies in the employee handbook first? Anything is possible but it doesn't seem as likely. The policies are updated every year and for next year it certainly would be prudent for anybody still working here to review what has changed. (Especially the section on termination.) I still think that any layoffs that are initiated this year would be using the policies as already written.
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Under when you do not get severance...
· When the Plan Administrator determines that under the circumstances, or because of misconduct after termination, it would not be in the best interests of the company to provide severance under this Plan.

And then there's this section
The company reserves the complete and absolute right to terminate, suspend or modify the Plan in whole or in part at any time without notice. No benefits are vested or accrued in connection with the Plan at any time.
 




Anonymous said:
Under when you do not get severance...
· When the Plan Administrator determines that under the circumstances, or because of misconduct after termination, it would not be in the best interests of the company to provide severance under this Plan.

And then there's this section
The company reserves the complete and absolute right to terminate, suspend or modify the Plan in whole or in part at any time without notice. No benefits are vested or accrued in connection with the Plan at any time.
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Yeah - there is that.....
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From what I understand the WiPro contract being announced tomorrow covers 95% of IT Infrastructure so over 1400 jobs. Everyone below L5 is toast and probably half of them will be as well. A few from the project office may stick around to ease the transition beyond the 90 days but ultimately their time is numbered as well. HR will be contacting people to give them an end date but everyone should be out the door by Thanksgiving at the latest.

JH was definitely trying to find ways to weasel out of paying severance packages.
 








Anonymous said:
But the key question is - did he find a way?
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He's no lawyer. Anybody with half a legal-brain would know that the lawsuits would make the severance payouts look like peanuts. As soon as one person files a lawsuit, there will be 1500 more jumping on board, so Quest needs to do the right thing and pay people for and what's been outlined in Quest policy, and what they've earned.

Before you accuse me of not "earning" anything, I've personally spent hundreds of hours working on weekends, after-hours and away from my family for Quest. I'm salaried, so one could argue that I don't not get paid for these hours regardless of what is expected from a salaried FTE...I've gone above and beyond. If someone thinks differently, I challenge them to explain why. I'll work circles around that person because I'm confident in my skills and know that any failures of IT have absolutely nothing to do with me or my work.

BTW - I'm off today working on my own DR plan, so keep snarky comments about being on a forum during work hours to yourself. ;)
 




Anonymous said:
But the key question is - did he find a way?
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His first plan was top offer a bunch of people crappy jobs to replace the ones they have, instead of giving them severance, hoping they'd quit. I know of 4 people working with lawyers to sue over constructive termination, and I guess there would be more I don't know about.
 




Anonymous said:
From what I understand the WiPro contract being announced tomorrow covers 95% of IT Infrastructure so over 1400 jobs. Everyone below L5 is toast and probably half of them will be as well. A few from the project office may stick around to ease the transition beyond the 90 days but ultimately their time is numbered as well. HR will be contacting people to give them an end date but everyone should be out the door by Thanksgiving at the latest.

JH was definitely trying to find ways to weasel out of paying severance packages.
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IT under TW has 1400, inf under JD has 425+. Guessing 300 of the 425 will get let go. Still ALOT of families will be effected with this. Quest will suffer dearly in next 12-18 months with this, but I'm betting in 2-3 yrs they will bring back in house. But by that time CEO and friends will have made their millions in bonuses for "cutting costs" and move on.
 




Anonymous said:
I'm salaried, so one could argue that I don't not get paid for these hours regardless of what is expected from a salaried FTE...I've gone above and beyond.
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Salaried = indentured servant

Take the hours you actually work and figure out the "real" hourly rate. Including all the middle of the night and weekend hours which many people in IT Infrastructure who support production systems end up working. And then coming in the next morning and still putting in a full day. That might be biting into that supposed "gain" the big boys at Quest think they are going to get with this outsourcing.

By the time the business (including all you sales people on this forum) figure out what is going on then it will be too late. At this point I am fine with going. Gonna take my package and hit the road and go work for a company that actually wants me to work for them.
 




Anonymous said:
Salaried = indentured servant

Take the hours you actually work and figure out the "real" hourly rate. Including all the middle of the night and weekend hours which many people in IT Infrastructure who support production systems end up working. And then coming in the next morning and still putting in a full day. That might be biting into that supposed "gain" the big boys at Quest think they are going to get with this outsourcing.

By the time the business (including all you sales people on this forum) figure out what is going on then it will be too late. At this point I am fine with going. Gonna take my package and hit the road and go work for a company that actually wants me to work for them.
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You said it perfectly. Don't want us? Good luck.
 












Anonymous said:
Wouldn't ya just love to see everyone sit and find a way to save money without cutting a single job? What a cruel world.
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Actually one could argue the point that there is more to be made by actually growing the business as opposed to slashing. But hey, what do I know.

Anyway, everybody in IT ready for the big meeting? This is where JH and TW announce that they are burning IT Infrastructure to the ground.
 




there is a way , unfortunately it means the head honchos would not get 2.5 million each per year just a measly couple of hundred thousand and how could they possibly life the life style they are now accustomed to on that !
 








Anonymous said:
Actually one could argue the point that there is more to be made by actually growing the business as opposed to slashing. But hey, what do I know.

Anyway, everybody in IT ready for the big meeting? This is where JH and TW announce that they are burning IT Infrastructure to the ground.
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Absolutely... Time to let your stock mature for a few months, let it grow, and absolutely dump it after at most 12 months... It is going to drop, BIG TIME.
 








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