Oncology cuts

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Anonymous said:
Ah..yes.. silly primary care twirps dancing on the oncology division grave and quoting lines from the movie Airplane...your comeuppance is on the way. I suggest you apply at the cell phone kiosks at the mall before 2013 as it's coming to a close for you shortly.
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Ok there Voltaire...maybe you should be out selling Alitma instead of showing us how brillant you are with that PSU Sandusky Diploma in Liberal Arts!
 






Anonymous said:
Ok there Voltaire...maybe you should be out selling Alitma instead of showing us how brillant you are with that PSU Sandusky Diploma in Liberal Arts!
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Written by Sandusky victim number 1 and again 9 and 10. Soon to be primary care casualty #1 as well. You had better fire up that Amway home starter kit,Sally. Tick....tock...
 




































My heart goes out to those that got cut...however when you aren't good at something sometimes a wake up call is needed. I hope they are able to find other opportunities outside the industry where relationship building isn't as important.

God bless and good luck to those that are no longer employed...
 












Anonymous said:
My heart goes out to those that got cut...however when you aren't good at something sometimes a wake up call is needed. I hope they are able to find other opportunities outside the industry where relationship building isn't as important.

God bless and good luck to those that are no longer employed...
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The crocodile tears are nice as are the Godspeed well-wishes. The cuts were based on need and totalled @15% of the entire business unit. In many cases it was tenure at Lilly that saved folks and not who was necessarily "good". You mention a "wake up call" so here is one for you and the other primary care bears. Enjoy the rest of 2013 as you gather at Starbuck's, wring your hands and decided who takes cupcakes where that day. Because once the calendar year winds down the chopping block will ramp up. To the tune of 50% in some places/divisions. The yucksters that continue to trot out the " Lilly has an oncology division" will only wish they could join oncology or any other business unit as the reallocation slots will have all dried up. " The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end".
 






Anonymous said:
The crocodile tears are nice as are the Godspeed well-wishes. The cuts were based on need and totalled @15% of the entire business unit. In many cases it was tenure at Lilly that saved folks and not who was necessarily "good". You mention a "wake up call" so here is one for you and the other primary care bears. Enjoy the rest of 2013 as you gather at Starbuck's, wring your hands and decided who takes cupcakes where that day. Because once the calendar year winds down the chopping block will ramp up. To the tune of 50% in some places/divisions. The yucksters that continue to trot out the " Lilly has an oncology division" will only wish they could join oncology or any other business unit as the reallocation slots will have all dried up. " The time for honoring yourself will soon be at an end".
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Doubtful buddy... Lilly is well aware that the best representatives reside within Diabetes (probably no cuts), Cardio (cuts but top reps- will try to keep as many as possible with reallocations), and Neuroscience (best most tenured representatives with best CVM scores- will be reallocated for sure when possible). MSK and Mens health might see some unfortunate cuts as we don't have our best resources within those divisions.

Our Vet business is expanding and we will be reallocating some of our treasured resources to that division.

The sad thing is our Oncology division needed more cuts but Lilly always tries to do the right thing by saving people. Well known from upper management that Oncology is weak within our organization. Trust me the only thing good about Lilly Oncology is the experience but it actually hurts you in the long run because every other company knows we are the bottom of the barrel in terms of talented reps! No one at Amgen is thinking "we need to hire the Lilly rep"...
 






Any poster who says "we all know the best reps are in _____ division" is freaking ignorant.


Anonymous said:
Doubtful buddy... Lilly is well aware that the best representatives reside within Diabetes (probably no cuts), Cardio (cuts but top reps- will try to keep as many as possible with reallocations), and Neuroscience (best most tenured representatives with best CVM scores- will be reallocated for sure when possible). MSK and Mens health might see some unfortunate cuts as we don't have our best resources within those divisions.

Our Vet business is expanding and we will be reallocating some of our treasured resources to that division.

The sad thing is our Oncology division needed more cuts but Lilly always tries to do the right thing by saving people. Well known from upper management that Oncology is weak within our organization. Trust me the only thing good about Lilly Oncology is the experience but it actually hurts you in the long run because every other company knows we are the bottom of the barrel in terms of talented reps! No one at Amgen is thinking "we need to hire the Lilly rep"...
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I have to agree with above post. 5+ yrs ago I had the "opportunity" to ride along with an Oncology Rep. He came from N.S. (where I chose to remain). They were expanding to Bi-ads at the time and recruited me--among others. After a full day ride-along and witnessing the poor access and very minimal dialogue (spoke briefly to #2 of #10 HCPs in only one large mega-office during Lunch for #50+) I made the decision to not pursue the position.

He stated that their avg calls/day on HCPs was #3.

BORING@ Best.

Good Luck to ALL Divisions as we get back to the 70's and early 80's where we really just need ONE LILLY DETAIL MAN!
 






Anonymous said:
I have to agree with above post. 5+ yrs ago I had the "opportunity" to ride along with an Oncology Rep. He came from N.S. (where I chose to remain). They were expanding to Bi-ads at the time and recruited me--among others. After a full day ride-along and witnessing the poor access and very minimal dialogue (spoke briefly to #2 of #10 HCPs in only one large mega-office during Lunch for #50+) I made the decision to not pursue the position.

He stated that their avg calls/day on HCPs was #3.

BORING@ Best.

Good Luck to ALL Divisions as we get back to the 70's and early 80's where we really just need ONE LILLY DETAIL MAN!
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Which is all code for: Oncology didn't want your tired old arse with the Sarafem satchel and sundown syndrome sales aid.
 












Anonymous said:
I have to agree with above post. 5+ yrs ago I had the "opportunity" to ride along with an Oncology Rep. He came from N.S. (where I chose to remain). They were expanding to Bi-ads at the time and recruited me--among others. After a full day ride-along and witnessing the poor access and very minimal dialogue (spoke briefly to #2 of #10 HCPs in only one large mega-office during Lunch for #50+) I made the decision to not pursue the position.

He stated that their avg calls/day on HCPs was #3.

BORING@ Best.

Good Luck to ALL Divisions as we get back to the 70's and early 80's where we really just need ONE LILLY DETAIL MAN!
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The ignorance on this thread is amazing! Shocking - that the rep you rode with didn't take you to their best accounts and probably was bored to have to cart another wanna be oncology prospect around for the day! And you sitting for hours in primary care waiting rooms isn't boring?
 
























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