New GSK Diabetes Contract
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I did not make the cut and have decided to get out of the industry or maybe it was decided for meI have a strong resume but have a recent gap and that seems to negate 20 years of successful specialty experience? That corporate thinking amazes me.
I am going to pursue a lower paying but more steady career vs fighting for these scraps and looking for a new job every few years.
Anyone else have similar experience? Thanks and good luck to everyone. The good side is i have made some life long friends in this industry so no regrets
Wow, Sorry to hear that. 20 years of specialty experience is very impressive. Who hasn't had a gap in employment at some point? Sounds like age discrimination to me.
I did not make the cut and have decided to get out of the industry or maybe it was decided for me
I am going to pursue a lower paying but more steady career vs fighting for these scraps and looking for a new job every few years.
Anyone else have similar experience? Thanks and good luck to everyone. The good side is i have made some life long friends in this industry so no regrets
Best of luck to you in your new endeavor. It has been tough few years. I just keep hanging on to try to save for college and retirement. I do think I will be following in your footsteps in a few years. Again, good luck!
Yes, similar experience with 20 years of high level experience, multiple President's Club, Hospital experience, launch experience, specialty experience, etc. And no go. What a let down.
It is sad that there are so many of us out here with significant years of experience looking for jobs, and being forced to take low paying positions (which I am personally thankful for). It just shows how little the big Pharma companies appreciated the years we gave them. Yes, most of the time decent severance etc, but I would have rather had continued employment. I appreciate the years I had, the money I made, the decent severance package, and the fact that most of the time it is simply business and not personal, but it stinks feeling like I had to take a major step backwards in my career, having stagnant income, and always wondering when the next job will fall through and how long it will take to get the next one. I am grateful that there are contract companies that pay a decent salary to get through the periods of unemployment. Unfortunately, I think this will be the status quo for those of us with lots of experience.
I have over 10 years of experience and was also not selected. I am interviewing for other medical device related opportunities. These managers seem to be more appreciative of my experience and my strong sales approach. I think some of these pharma managers do not want true sales people. I'm personally going after the big commissions at this point. I will actually be selling instead of spending my time studying and taking test. Good luck to everyone!
Thanks for the positive responses. Great examples of how Cafepharma should be.
I was moved forward and I've been through layoffs. You have to look at every job, full time or contract, as a contract job in pharma. It's the golden handcuffs. It's truly a personal situation on whether you continue to deal with what pharma has become. Some are ok doing the mundane for the paycheck. I've actually seen where people would rather have older, solid reps to hire on vs young, just out of college "what have you done for me lately" person. You can't take the hiring process personally or you'll go crazy! Good luck to all!!
another lifer here that was not moved forward. ..even in diabetes!
Age is a big factor but so is knowledge and a poor/scared manager does not want someone
that has more exp and over all knowledge then him...so they do what they do ...no I am looking for someone to coach(micromanage/jump when I say jump/puppet)
because you can not help someone that has more life experience ...
just say it ..
they like the pyt..
good luck to all
Age is a big factor but so is knowledge and a poor/scared manager does not want someone
that has more exp and over all knowledge then him...so they do what they do ...no I am looking for someone to coach(micromanage/jump when I say jump/puppet)
because you can not help someone that has more life experience ...
just say it ..
they like the pyt..
good luck to all
Well, I took a good look around at the other candidates and trust me there were no pyt's.
Yes, I agree that there were no pyt's the day I interviewed. It was a bunch of haggard looking middle aged people. I am an inVentiv 10 (and that is nothing to brag about) and I did not make it.
I did not make the cut and have decided to get out of the industry or maybe it was decided for me
I am going to pursue a lower paying but more steady career vs fighting for these scraps and looking for a new job every few years.
Anyone else have similar experience? Thanks and good luck to everyone. The good side is i have made some life long friends in this industry so no regrets
Yep,
You are me ... same boat different paddle. It is an industry image of the young where extensive experience only means ... long in the tooth.
We’ll see if I make the cut. My interview is yet to happen.
The only real question is how many people over a certain age were hired? (Not how many were rejected.) GSK gives the order and the CSO takes the hit.
One never really knows why they pick one person over another. Many managers bring reps over from previous company. That's not something that you will ever be told. They often know who they will hire before the interviews start. They just have to go through the process. Sad but true!
I did not make the cut and have decided to get out of the industry or maybe it was decided for me
I am going to pursue a lower paying but more steady career vs fighting for these scraps and looking for a new job every few years.
Anyone else have similar experience? Thanks and good luck to everyone. The good side is i have made some life long friends in this industry so no regrets
After almost 3 decades with a big pharma, I was retired for a couple years and, yes, you'll play the devil go get back into pharma sales after a gap like that. But I was able to get back in on a flex time contract, and later moved from there to a full time contract position. The key is to get back into the field.
You make a good point but your situation is a lil different as you have retirement to fall back on and your house is probably paid for. If you are still w/ a contract company it could end at any moment….actually even working for directly for a pharma company is not that stable. I am looking ahead 10 years and think this will only get worse. Good luck
It really is too bad and frustrating that many of us won't be 'moving forward' onto this contract. Just a huge over supply of reps out there even for the contract jobs. True is who you know (just think of the DMs hiring for this, how many were previous big pharma? how many previous reps do they know who they'd like to work with and help out? Gotta be a tough call for them and yes they probably already know who they'll hire before you sit down with the old brag book).. It's still tough out there and finding a comfortable gig like pharma is well pretty tough.
My interview experience in Dallas was positive. No person from my territory at the interview to increase any nervousness. Interviewed with district and regional managers.