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I realize that there aren’t a lot of brainiacs at corporate, but do they think that all their reps are as equally dumb? They have been able to process payroll for nearly 3 months, but when we are FINALLY supposed to get a bonus, they suddenly can’t figure out how bank deposits work? Also, they didn’t realize their incompetence until pay day? Seems legit
 


















I realize that there aren’t a lot of brainiacs at corporate, but do they think that all their reps are as equally dumb? They have been able to process payroll for nearly 3 months, but when we are FINALLY supposed to get a bonus, they suddenly can’t figure out how bank deposits work? Also, they didn’t realize their incompetence until pay day? Seems legit

this a 1000x
what a fucking circus this place is. at first it was funny how poorly run NEOS was, and we chalked it up as new company "growing pains". almost 2 1/2 years later, it has gone from funny to disgraceful.
 


















nothing screams ‘my company is going great’ more than a Friday AM email on same day we are do money saying sorry we can’t pay you and a meeting on the surface of the sun in PS.
 
























Two DMs just got canned. Now the CEO has been ousted. Heads are rolling. Dumpster fire

This is so dumb, hopefully the new CEO can see the obvious and fix this sinking ship. I'll give him some tips and he won't have to even credit me when it works.

To new CEO,

If you want numbers that Vyvanse and Adderall XR put up for Adzenys then put your money where your mouth is and do some comparative studies to show how great it is. Walking into a high prescribing adult only office with an orange flavored ODT that was approved with a 505b and expecting them to write because you told a "good story" is as delusional as thinking Adzenys could still grow without the free 30 day trial back in December. If not, then be happy with "me too" numbers. Asking reps to make a chicken salad out of chicken shit does nothing but drive them away to greener pastures.

3 months free is nice but all you are doing is putting a bandaid over a gashing wound. JS is doing the best he can with managed care but he is only one guy for the entire country. You need more of him to work with as many insurance companies to get it on as many plans as possible. Can't tell you how many lost scripts I've had because of managed care. And before some exec says, "but the card will fix any payor issues..." put yourself in a docs shoes. Yes it will get fixed, but...do you really want the pharmacy telling the patient it's $200, then pt calls office (pissed off) because they lied to them, office calls rep, rep calls ACE team (cause I'll be damned if I ever get the pharmacy to call ACE first or office to call ACE no matter how many times I tell them) ACE calls office and gets pt info, ACE calls pharmacy, then finally it's fixed but this is happening for majority of the patients they write our drug for OR just write a drug that is on 90% of insurance plans and be done with it. If I'm a doc, I'm doing the latter unless there is clinical papers/evidence showing that Adzenys/Cotempla is superior to Drug XYZ or the rep is hot and provides me favors in the sample closet.

These drugs are easy to sell but managed care is the biggest hurdle. There are too many options out there that work just as well for a doc/office to go through hurdles with getting a drug to a patient. Instead of wasting money to fly FAB team members for ideas that we all know are just saying things to just say things, save all that money to negotiate with big payors and MEDICAID. It's no surprise that Dyanavel is out growing us if you look at how many plans they are on vs. us.

(Side note: Who's idea was it to make and ship out a box full of Adzenys pocket folders for office staff to every rep?...Really?)

Don't get me started on Medicaid. Show me a rep in a state with medicaid coverage and/or a big time speaker and I'll show you a Chairman's Circle Winner. It's great for the rep but there is a serious problem for a company and frankly the products when your top performing reps come from medicaid states or the biggest writers are paid to do so.
 






LOL! All time funniest CP posts I've read in a while. Funny but so true. I wondered about those folders too

This is so dumb, hopefully the new CEO can see the obvious and fix this sinking ship. I'll give him some tips and he won't have to even credit me when it works.

To new CEO,

If you want numbers that Vyvanse and Adderall XR put up for Adzenys then put your money where your mouth is and do some comparative studies to show how great it is. Walking into a high prescribing adult only office with an orange flavored ODT that was approved with a 505b and expecting them to write because you told a "good story" is as delusional as thinking Adzenys could still grow without the free 30 day trial back in December. If not, then be happy with "me too" numbers. Asking reps to make a chicken salad out of chicken shit does nothing but drive them away to greener pastures.

3 months free is nice but all you are doing is putting a bandaid over a gashing wound. JS is doing the best he can with managed care but he is only one guy for the entire country. You need more of him to work with as many insurance companies to get it on as many plans as possible. Can't tell you how many lost scripts I've had because of managed care. And before some exec says, "but the card will fix any payor issues..." put yourself in a docs shoes. Yes it will get fixed, but...do you really want the pharmacy telling the patient it's $200, then pt calls office (pissed off) because they lied to them, office calls rep, rep calls ACE team (cause I'll be damned if I ever get the pharmacy to call ACE first or office to call ACE no matter how many times I tell them) ACE calls office and gets pt info, ACE calls pharmacy, then finally it's fixed but this is happening for majority of the patients they write our drug for OR just write a drug that is on 90% of insurance plans and be done with it. If I'm a doc, I'm doing the latter unless there is clinical papers/evidence showing that Adzenys/Cotempla is superior to Drug XYZ or the rep is hot and provides me favors in the sample closet.

These drugs are easy to sell but managed care is the biggest hurdle. There are too many options out there that work just as well for a doc/office to go through hurdles with getting a drug to a patient. Instead of wasting money to fly FAB team members for ideas that we all know are just saying things to just say things, save all that money to negotiate with big payors and MEDICAID. It's no surprise that Dyanavel is out growing us if you look at how many plans they are on vs. us.

(Side note: Who's idea was it to make and ship out a box full of Adzenys pocket folders for office staff to every rep?...Really?)

Don't get me started on Medicaid. Show me a rep in a state with medicaid coverage and/or a big time speaker and I'll show you a Chairman's Circle Winner. It's great for the rep but there is a serious problem for a company and frankly the products when your top performing reps come from medicaid states or the biggest writers are paid to do so.
 






This is so dumb, hopefully the new CEO can see the obvious and fix this sinking ship. I'll give him some tips and he won't have to even credit me when it works.

To new CEO,

If you want numbers that Vyvanse and Adderall XR put up for Adzenys then put your money where your mouth is and do some comparative studies to show how great it is. Walking into a high prescribing adult only office with an orange flavored ODT that was approved with a 505b and expecting them to write because you told a "good story" is as delusional as thinking Adzenys could still grow without the free 30 day trial back in December. If not, then be happy with "me too" numbers. Asking reps to make a chicken salad out of chicken shit does nothing but drive them away to greener pastures.

3 months free is nice but all you are doing is putting a bandaid over a gashing wound. JS is doing the best he can with managed care but he is only one guy for the entire country. You need more of him to work with as many insurance companies to get it on as many plans as possible. Can't tell you how many lost scripts I've had because of managed care. And before some exec says, "but the card will fix any payor issues..." put yourself in a docs shoes. Yes it will get fixed, but...do you really want the pharmacy telling the patient it's $200, then pt calls office (pissed off) because they lied to them, office calls rep, rep calls ACE team (cause I'll be damned if I ever get the pharmacy to call ACE first or office to call ACE no matter how many times I tell them) ACE calls office and gets pt info, ACE calls pharmacy, then finally it's fixed but this is happening for majority of the patients they write our drug for OR just write a drug that is on 90% of insurance plans and be done with it. If I'm a doc, I'm doing the latter unless there is clinical papers/evidence showing that Adzenys/Cotempla is superior to Drug XYZ or the rep is hot and provides me favors in the sample closet.

These drugs are easy to sell but managed care is the biggest hurdle. There are too many options out there that work just as well for a doc/office to go through hurdles with getting a drug to a patient. Instead of wasting money to fly FAB team members for ideas that we all know are just saying things to just say things, save all that money to negotiate with big payors and MEDICAID. It's no surprise that Dyanavel is out growing us if you look at how many plans they are on vs. us.

(Side note: Who's idea was it to make and ship out a box full of Adzenys pocket folders for office staff to every rep?...Really?)

Don't get me started on Medicaid. Show me a rep in a state with medicaid coverage and/or a big time speaker and I'll show you a Chairman's Circle Winner. It's great for the rep but there is a serious problem for a company and frankly the products when your top performing reps come from medicaid states or the biggest writers are paid to do so.
 






This is so dumb, hopefully the new CEO can see the obvious and fix this sinking ship. I'll give him some tips and he won't have to even credit me when it works.

To new CEO,

If you want numbers that Vyvanse and Adderall XR put up for Adzenys then put your money where your mouth is and do some comparative studies to show how great it is. Walking into a high prescribing adult only office with an orange flavored ODT that was approved with a 505b and expecting them to write because you told a "good story" is as delusional as thinking Adzenys could still grow without the free 30 day trial back in December. If not, then be happy with "me too" numbers. Asking reps to make a chicken salad out of chicken shit does nothing but drive them away to greener pastures.

3 months free is nice but all you are doing is putting a bandaid over a gashing wound. JS is doing the best he can with managed care but he is only one guy for the entire country. You need more of him to work with as many insurance companies to get it on as many plans as possible. Can't tell you how many lost scripts I've had because of managed care. And before some exec says, "but the card will fix any payor issues..." put yourself in a docs shoes. Yes it will get fixed, but...do you really want the pharmacy telling the patient it's $200, then pt calls office (pissed off) because they lied to them, office calls rep, rep calls ACE team (cause I'll be damned if I ever get the pharmacy to call ACE first or office to call ACE no matter how many times I tell them) ACE calls office and gets pt info, ACE calls pharmacy, then finally it's fixed but this is happening for majority of the patients they write our drug for OR just write a drug that is on 90% of insurance plans and be done with it. If I'm a doc, I'm doing the latter unless there is clinical papers/evidence showing that Adzenys/Cotempla is superior to Drug XYZ or the rep is hot and provides me favors in the sample closet.

These drugs are easy to sell but managed care is the biggest hurdle. There are too many options out there that work just as well for a doc/office to go through hurdles with getting a drug to a patient. Instead of wasting money to fly FAB team members for ideas that we all know are just saying things to just say things, save all that money to negotiate with big payors and MEDICAID. It's no surprise that Dyanavel is out growing us if you look at how many plans they are on vs. us.

(Side note: Who's idea was it to make and ship out a box full of Adzenys pocket folders for office staff to every rep?...Really?)

Don't get me started on Medicaid. Show me a rep in a state with medicaid coverage and/or a big time speaker and I'll show you a Chairman's Circle Winner. It's great for the rep but there is a serious problem for a company and frankly the products when your top performing reps come from medicaid states or the biggest writers are paid to do so.

While you make excellent points, it probably doesn’t matter. I think the new guy was brought in to do one thing - sell this turd of a company. Also a quick google search will tell you that the new guy, in addition to his $500k salary and $150k bonus, got a $100k sign on bonus. I wonder if they were able to process his bonus on time???
 






"Don't get me started on Medicaid. Show me a rep in a state with medicaid coverage and/or a big time speaker and I'll show you a Chairman's Circle Winner. It's great for the rep but there is a serious problem for a company and frankly the products when your top performing reps come from medicaid states or the biggest writers are paid to do so."

AMEN

and if you are unfortunate engugh to NOT be blessed to work a state with coverage and have NO big time speaker.... god FORBID you mention the complete unfairness of the forced rank inequality.... management just puts their head back in the sand and tells you to stop complaining / go out and work harder.

utter fucking bullshit