My version of 15 by 15

Troll Alert! I''m a troll, never ever worked for Merck a day in my life, but I have a ton of sympathy for you terrific folks who still work for Merck.

Wanna know why?

Your story is my story even though I didn't work for Merck. I worked for IBM. Same deal over there. IBM was one of the finest corp's in the world to work for until the scumbags at the top ruined it in the mid-1990's. Yeah, they ruined it, and then left with millions upon millions of dollars too.

Now IBM is a scumbag company to work for. Everybody employed by them doesn't give a shit about anything. You'd be amazed at how many "15 guys" work for IBM these days. And why do they do it? Because most people just go by what they see that's why. When IBM treated me very well, I reciprocated and worked my ass off for them. Now that they're scumbags to their employees, well, like I said, I just reciprocate. Now that aint to hard to understand, is it? You keep on keepin' on 15 guy! Aint anybody at IBM that blames you for what you're doing.

Why would you label yourself a troll? A troll is someone who has nothing useful to contribute. Like the douche who comes on here and has a diaper tantrum every time 15 Guy posts a golf update. He will typically reply "Who cares?" within 1 hour's time, thereby illustrating that he cares...and dwells on it. In fact, he'll probably latch on to my post like an angry toddler within one day's time, and make threats about "axes about to fall" and how "sad" our lives are. I guess if you call feeding your family and enjoying a balanced life while managing to stick it to Merck "sad", then bring on more "sadness". LOL.

Meanwhile, your post about IBM is quite insightful. Unfortunately, a noticeable portion of corporate America has latched onto Jack Welch's so called "brilliance" of how to manage a work force. Looks like that strategy is not faring too well for those companies that have tried it. If there is a small ray of hope, it is Microsoft's announcement earlier this week that they are abandoning their despised stack-ranking system. This forced bucket system has been eating their company like a cancer from within, and their leadership is finally acknowledging it. This yearly forced ranking has disenfranchised and demoralized their employees, and hence eliminated any risk-taking or innovation. They've been left in the dust by Google, Samsung, Apple, etc. Perhaps other influential companies will follow Microsoft's change of heart. As for Merck, it is highly unlikely. Their coffin has been sealed. Cannot speak as to IBM reconsidering their path. You'll probably have a better sense of that. Thanks.
 






Why would you label yourself a troll? A troll is someone who has nothing useful to contribute. Like the douche who comes on here and has a diaper tantrum every time 15 Guy posts a golf update. He will typically reply "Who cares?" within 1 hour's time, thereby illustrating that he cares...and dwells on it. In fact, he'll probably latch on to my post like an angry toddler within one day's time, and make threats about "axes about to fall" and how "sad" our lives are. I guess if you call feeding your family and enjoying a balanced life while managing to stick it to Merck "sad", then bring on more "sadness". LOL.

Meanwhile, your post about IBM is quite insightful. Unfortunately, a noticeable portion of corporate America has latched onto Jack Welch's so called "brilliance" of how to manage a work force. Looks like that strategy is not faring too well for those companies that have tried it. If there is a small ray of hope, it is Microsoft's announcement earlier this week that they are abandoning their despised stack-ranking system. This forced bucket system has been eating their company like a cancer from within, and their leadership is finally acknowledging it. This yearly forced ranking has disenfranchised and demoralized their employees, and hence eliminated any risk-taking or innovation. They've been left in the dust by Google, Samsung, Apple, etc. Perhaps other influential companies will follow Microsoft's change of heart. As for Merck, it is highly unlikely. Their coffin has been sealed. Cannot speak as to IBM reconsidering their path. You'll probably have a better sense of that. Thanks.

You're quite welcome. IBM's future isn't so secure these days. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is a fact that IBM is spiraling downward. Believe it of not, I have a 62 year affiliation with IBM. I was 2 when my father joined IBM in 1951. I grew up in an IBM household, and the quality of life we enjoyed as a result of my father being hired by IBM was excellent. Out of four siblings, I was the youngest, I was the only one that got to go to college. After I graduated college, I joined IBM. I retired after 32 years with them, and yes, I was thrown out on my ass. After 30 years of service, IBM employees are immediately pensionable, so I'm collecting my pension, have a 401k and Social Security. My wife still works as she's six years younger than I, so from a personal finances standpoint we're fine. It's VERY hard for me to NOT be grateful to IBM for the quality of life I have enjoyed all these years. All three of my kids went to college, and we owned two homes in "upscale" neighborhoods. We drove nice cars. Yet I'm super pissed off at IBM. I worked for the Old IBM, "The Good IBM". I worked my ass off for them and got rewarded for that. But I worked for them thru the transition to the New IBM, or "The Bad IBM". In the 1990's, IBM execs ruined what was arguably the most respected and finest company to work for on the planet. And I can introduce you to thousands of former and current IBM'ers that hate everything IBM did and has become. You don't have to believe me though, after all, this is the internet. So if you know an IBM'er or former IBM'er ask them about it. Stand back a bit though, so that you won't get kicked in the balls.

IBM used to rank it's employees, but abandoned it in the 1990's after a few years due to the incredible uproar from the employees and the tremendously negative hit to company wide morale. As you might expect, ranking their direct reports was completely mangled by the department mangers charged with implementing the ranking system. It was purely political, in that those employees that were good friends with the boss usually were highly ranked while those that refused to "suck up/kiss ass" were at the bottom. Of course, if you were at the bottom, you'd be ultimately be shown the door. (With a lot less severance money too)

Yeah, Neutron Jack's misguided thinking had a lot of influence inside "Beemer-ville" as we called it back in the day. Did you know a lot of Beemer's drove a Beemer? That was supposed to be some kind of status symbol or something. One of 'em even had a set of vanity license plates on his Beemer that said "IBM MGR". I'm sure you can imagine what everyone though of him.... But I'm digressing.

The parallels that I've been reading here compared to what I've read on IBM boards are astounding. Reduced severance packages, benefit take backs like reduced retirement and healthcare insurance have been rampant in IBM since 1999. Speaking of 1999, that's the year when IBM pulled off "The Great Pension Heist". Everybody covered by a defined benefit pension was converted to a cash balance pension plan. That sounds kind of innocuous, doesn't it? But if it happened to YOU, and you saw how you'd have to work ten more years than you otherwise thought you would have in order to collect the SAME MONTHLY AMOUNT had you kept the defined benefit pension, you'd be pissed off too. Not to bore you with too much IBM drivel, after all this is the Merck board and I am a Troll, but here's a goody for you; IBM doesn't give it's employee's salary increases anymore. Well, truth be known, yes they do. BUT!! Only a very few employees will get one, and if they're lucky, they'll get maybe one or two percent. A very good friend of mine who will retire after 40 years with IBM next June told me he has NOT had a raise in six (6) years. The people in his department think the average amount of time those in the department waited for a raise is roughly four years. Of course IBM exec's are getting eleven (11) percent raises on top of their multi-million dollar salaries.

As for your good friend that jumps on here an hour after the 15 guy posts and pitches a hissy fit, well, there are many parallels to IBM there too. There were thousands of assholes that worked for IBM over the years! Take care my Merck friends!! Good luck and God Bless.
 






Hey! I just thought of something.

You nice folks over at Merck have "15 Guy". Would you mind calling me "IBM Guy?"

THANKS!!! It's not that I wanna be known as IBM Guy by all my Beemer friends, cuz they'd think I lost my effin mind. Which I may already done anyway, but I kinda like the sound of "IBM Guy". Sounds like a super hero or sumthin...

Outta the blue of the western sky comes IBM Guy!!!!!
 






1. I know of 4 others personally who have side businesses. That's just from my little circle. Considering that very few people trust coworkers enough to discuss such things, I'd guess the number is more than 1000.
2. I don't have to work two jobs. I work two jobs by choice...and I earn far more than you have ever dreamed of earning. When the axe falls, I won't even flinch.
3. My $140K isn't for the year. It's through October. My year's earnings will be much more.
3. Pussies like you and your merckbots couldn't do what I do to save your lives. You suck as salespeople. And I am certainly not an example of the quality of what's left at Merck. The worthless idiots that surround me are largely a joke.
4. If there's one thing I've proven, it's that luck plays no role when you're good. I don't need luck.
5. I don't denigrate others for their vocations. There's no dishonor in working for a cellular provider. Their jobs are REAl sales jobs, not like this joke of a "sales" job that your sorry ass performed. Deliver a sandwich, drive around four hours a day, lie about your entire existence...you call that a sales job? Don't bullshit a bullshitter; I know what a farce you were.
It's funny that you're still too stupid to realize it.
Yet you hang on with white knuckles to the Merck job, what's wrong with this picture?
 






1. I know of 4 others personally who have side businesses. That's just from my little circle. Considering that very few people trust coworkers enough to discuss such things, I'd guess the number is more than 1000.
2. I don't have to work two jobs. I work two jobs by choice...and I earn far more than you have ever dreamed of earning. When the axe falls, I won't even flinch.
3. My $140K isn't for the year. It's through October. My year's earnings will be much more.
3. Pussies like you and your merckbots couldn't do what I do to save your lives. You suck as salespeople. And I am certainly not an example of the quality of what's left at Merck. The worthless idiots that surround me are largely a joke.
4. If there's one thing I've proven, it's that luck plays no role when you're good. I don't need luck.
5. I don't denigrate others for their vocations. There's no dishonor in working for a cellular provider. Their jobs are REAl sales jobs, not like this joke of a "sales" job that your sorry ass performed. Deliver a sandwich, drive around four hours a day, lie about your entire existence...you call that a sales job? Don't bullshit a bullshitter; I know what a farce you were.
It's funny that you're still too stupid to realize it.
Dude, you couldn't even carry the bag of the reps I knew in the 80's and 90's. in those days people like you wouldn't even have smelled an interview with the Merck of those decades. An employee like you is the epitome of how far Merck has now fallen.
 






Dude, you couldn't even carry the bag of the reps I knew in the 80's and 90's. in those days people like you wouldn't even have smelled an interview with the Merck of those decades. An employee like you is the epitome of how far Merck has now fallen.

You knew Merck Rep's in the 80's and yet you still refer to people as "Dude"?

Don't worry Hammer. You'll grow up some day.
 






Dude, you couldn't even carry the bag of the reps I knew in the 80's and 90's. in those days people like you wouldn't even have smelled an interview with the Merck of those decades. An employee like you is the epitome of how far Merck has now fallen.

I knew the reps from the 80's and 90's. I was one of them. They were largely as ridiculous as what we have doing this joke of a job today.
 






Yet you hang on with white knuckles to the Merck job, what's wrong with this picture?

I'm doing the same thing. The question is, "What's RIGHT with this picture?" Well over $300K per year! You can't understand that?

And what's with the white knuckles comment? We are those WITHOUT the white knuckles!!! These poor bastards that surround me spend every waking moment wondering when their number is going to get called, kissing as much ass as they can and sacrificing all dignity to the mighty CTL. It's horribly pathetic, grown men and women stabbing each other in the back in an effort to cling to this dunghole of a company.

I intend to milk Merck for as long as I can. And I intend to wring as much from them as possible, smiling all the while. I make the 15 Guy look like an amateur. That karma is a real bitch, Mother, and I'm doing everything I can to dole you out a big dose of it.

FU Merck
 












I'm doing the same thing. The question is, "What's RIGHT with this picture?" Well over $300K per year! You can't understand that?

And what's with the white knuckles comment? We are those WITHOUT the white knuckles!!! These poor bastards that surround me spend every waking moment wondering when their number is going to get called, kissing as much ass as they can and sacrificing all dignity to the mighty CTL. It's horribly pathetic, grown men and women stabbing each other in the back in an effort to cling to this dunghole of a company.

I intend to milk Merck for as long as I can. And I intend to wring as much from them as possible, smiling all the while. I make the 15 Guy look like an amateur. That karma is a real bitch, Mother, and I'm doing everything I can to dole you out a big dose of it.

FU Merck

For someone who claims to be making sooo much money this guy seems to have an a lot of time to devote to cafepharma, hmmm...
 






For someone who claims to be making sooo much money this guy seems to have an a lot of time to devote to cafepharma, hmmm...

Hey, "This Guy" here. The post you responded to is mine. I've spent about an hour on CP this year, all of it this week. It's incredibly entertaining, I must admit, largely because I've seen so many posts that mimic my sentiments exactly. I'm working with other guys that have a story similar to mine. We're selling the same stuff on the side and I'm glad that he brought me onboard. He was the one that encouraged me to check CP out again.

Oh, and it's all true about our success outside of Merck. There are a few of us working together and doing well with the same product line. We're thousands of miles separated, but linked by our friendship, our dedication to things outside of Merck and our ability to sell. I'm so glad to have maintained relationships with other good people. I have been profusely rewarded. We all have.

Sorry, Merck. You're the only one that loses here.
 












Hey, "This Guy" here. The post you responded to is mine. I've spent about an hour on CP this year, all of it this week. It's incredibly entertaining, I must admit, largely because I've seen so many posts that mimic my sentiments exactly. I'm working with other guys that have a story similar to mine. We're selling the same stuff on the side and I'm glad that he brought me onboard. He was the one that encouraged me to check CP out again.

Oh, and it's all true about our success outside of Merck. There are a few of us working together and doing well with the same product line. We're thousands of miles separated, but linked by our friendship, our dedication to things outside of Merck and our ability to sell. I'm so glad to have maintained relationships with other good people. I have been profusely rewarded. We all have.

Sorry, Merck. You're the only one that loses here.

Oh enough of your lies. Can't we just get the 15 guys golf updates?
 






I'm doing the same thing. The question is, "What's RIGHT with this picture?" Well over $300K per year! You can't understand that?

And what's with the white knuckles comment? We are those WITHOUT the white knuckles!!! These poor bastards that surround me spend every waking moment wondering when their number is going to get called, kissing as much ass as they can and sacrificing all dignity to the mighty CTL. It's horribly pathetic, grown men and women stabbing each other in the back in an effort to cling to this dunghole of a company.

I intend to milk Merck for as long as I can. And I intend to wring as much from them as possible, smiling all the while. I make the 15 Guy look like an amateur. That karma is a real bitch, Mother, and I'm doing everything I can to dole you out a big dose of it.

FU Merck
"I'd like to talk to you about an exciting multi-level marketing opportunity that you can do in your spare time." Come clean is it Shacklee or Amway?
 












Oops, sorry, didn't mean to blow your " Guy Fawkes- Merck protest (FU)- I'm getting rich-multi level (1)- marketing" fantasy cover.
Things kinda slow, lonely, and creepy in mom and dad's basement for you today huh?
PS- I wouldn't write like you do when you apply for your next job. You won't pass the background check.
 






Oops, sorry, didn't mean to blow your " Guy Fawkes- Merck protest (FU)- I'm getting rich-multi level (1)- marketing" fantasy cover.
Things kinda slow, lonely, and creepy in mom and dad's basement for you today huh?
PS- I wouldn't write like you do when you apply for your next job. You won't pass the background check.

Not the guy to whom you responded, but I know him well. We're selling the same products as a sideline business. You've got him all wrong. There's only only one level and it's all we need to make a very good living. I'm the one that brought him into it. Oh, and he can write really well. I'd say your problem is between your ears. Ain't life grand?
 












Not the guy to whom you responded, but I know him well. We're selling the same products as a sideline business. You've got him all wrong. There's only only one level and it's all we need to make a very good living. I'm the one that brought him into it. Oh, and he can write really well. I'd say your problem is between your ears. Ain't life grand?

Selling samples are we? Try to get the top bunk in prison.
 






Yes...and about 1000 of our closest friends. We're not just sticking it to the company. We're basking in the glory of sticking it to the company.

As I pass my Merck income with my side job income, I laugh at the Merck Morons (like you). You can have your loyalty to Merck. I'll take my double income. It must be tough, going through life blind and stupid.

FU Merck.

Keeping unauthorized pharmaceutical products in your company vehicle is a violation of the PDMA and illegal and is punishable by prison time and fines. Lets see who gets "FU'd" first, you or Merck.