Mike & Amy - MS FRANCHISE FAVORTISM & DYSFUNCTIONAL

[anonymous]

Why is everyone so angry?? We have great jobs and hire great people- in MS and on the Oncology side. We are all in this together let's make the best of it! Even though Oncology is a more complicated sale- MS is definitely no joke either. They have access issues and they have a drug that sells itself- just like in Oncology. I don't really see much of a difference aside from the paying Oncology a heck of a lot more.

We need to get along and do our jobs the best we can. Genentech is a great company and our accounts, patients and physicians need us! Have a great day!!

This COULD be a great company. We have great products. We need to start recognizing those that are actually trying to be nimble and make things better. Those people are chastised and told to go sit in a corner, while the "yes men" that tell leadership exactly what they want to hear. So their "mistakes" look like triumphs.

 

[anonymous]

This COULD be a great company. We have great products. We need to start recognizing those that are actually trying to be nimble and make things better. Those people are chastised and told to go sit in a corner, while the "yes men" that tell leadership exactly what they want to hear. So their "mistakes" look like triumphs.

Every GREAT company has people that don't move the dial forward, people that complain, people that slow the ship down. The majority of the people that have been here for at least 3+ years are great- some are bad. When Roche came in we helped them get up to our standard of excellence and accelerated our company's growth that not just helped the stock price but saved patients lives! For our newer reps we had to expand into disease states we weren't familiar with and got some people that aren't quite up to our typical standards. This is good though because they bring some diversity and potentially new ways of thinking into our culture. We have some good people in the MS division as a team we need to bring the reps that aren't up to our standard up to and potentially past our "standard". It has been done before but we need to work as a team.

Our company is GREAT we help so many people everyday, so many physicians look up to us and depend on us for information that helps them get better outcomes. I'm proud of our company and what we do. We need to come together as a team to remain GREAT and move forward to stay ahead of our competition. There is no better place to work than at Genentech- we have a great culture that nurtures the weaker performers and gets out of the way of high performers. WE ARE GENENTECH!

 

[anonymous]

This COULD be a great company. We have great products. We need to start recognizing those that are actually trying to be nimble and make things better. Those people are chastised and told to go sit in a corner, while the "yes men" that tell leadership exactly what they want to hear. So their "mistakes" look like triumphs.

Every GREAT company has people that don't move the dial forward, people that complain, people that slow the ship down. The majority of the people that have been here for at least 3+ years are great- some are bad. When Roche came in we helped them get up to our standard of excellence and accelerated our company's growth that not just helped the stock price but saved patients lives! For our newer reps we had to expand into disease states we weren't familiar with and got some people that aren't quite up to our typical standards. This is good though because they bring some diversity and potentially new ways of thinking into our culture. We have some good people in the MS division as a team we need to bring the reps that aren't up to our standard up to and potentially past our "standard". It has been done before but we need to work as a team.

Our company is GREAT we help so many people everyday, so many physicians look up to us and depend on us for information that helps them get better outcomes. I'm proud of our company and what we do. We need to come together as a team to remain GREAT and move forward to stay ahead of our competition. There is no better place to work than at Genentech- we have a great culture that nurtures the weaker performers and gets out of the way of high performers. WE ARE GENENTECH!

 

[anonymous]

Every GREAT company has people that don't move the dial forward, people that complain, people that slow the ship down. The majority of the people that have been here for at least 3+ years are great- some are bad. When Roche came in we helped them get up to our standard of excellence and accelerated our company's growth that not just helped the stock price but saved patients lives! For our newer reps we had to expand into disease states we weren't familiar with and got some people that aren't quite up to our typical standards. This is good though because they bring some diversity and potentially new ways of thinking into our culture. We have some good people in the MS division as a team we need to bring the reps that aren't up to our standard up to and potentially past our "standard". It has been done before but we need to work as a team.

Our company is GREAT we help so many people everyday, so many physicians look up to us and depend on us for information that helps them get better outcomes. I'm proud of our company and what we do. We need to come together as a team to remain GREAT and move forward to stay ahead of our competition. There is no better place to work than at Genentech- we have a great culture that nurtures the weaker performers and gets out of the way of high performers. WE ARE GENENTECH!

Don’t you love it when some joker comes on here claiming to represent the voice of the company or the voice of all sales reps? Just a bit naracistic, ya think? Uses phrases like we this and we that. Similar in a way that fat Al Sharpton believes he speaks for all black folks. What’s even funnier is he speaks about standards of excellence and then can’t even post on a simple blog without posting it twice. Maybe he’s not the sharpest tool in the shed after all. Time to bring this goof ball up to Genentech standards. Give me a break.

 

[anonymous]

Interesting read. What also is curious is how some in these threads are calling out Reps that came from specific competitive companies. This actually reveals a lot. We all know the majority of outside hires came from a dysfunctional company called Biogen. It looks like that bad attitude/arrogant virus may be infecting all of us here? I think this is a great company, and I wish those that brought baggage from their old companies would simply shut up and do your job. This isn’t Biogen it’s Genentech. If you don’t like it here then leave.

 

[anonymous]

wow as alerted to check out this thread by someone in my district. I’m on the other side of the business been with Avastin for just over 8 years. I’m embarrassed for my MS colleagues. This thread is horrible and you should be ashamed.

 

[anonymous]

Is it true that the NSD and 2 of 3 regionals all came from Biogen? If so, they most likely had input to the structure of the sales force and would have had insight to how territories should be aligned.

 

[anonymous]

wow as alerted to check out this thread by someone in my district. I’m on the other side of the business been with Avastin for just over 8 years. I’m embarrassed for my MS colleagues. This thread is horrible and you should be ashamed.

Oh yeah?!!!??? Well you just supported the thread. You've been working here for over 8 years. Congrats, you're being favored. It's easy to make a comment like that when you are treated fairly. Many of us aren't.

 

[anonymous]

Only a true idiot would go from Oncology to lowly Neurology and take the pay decrease that goes with that. The majority of you have no Oncology or account management experience which is why you struggle. Simply put- the pedigree isn't there. You are a liar and a cry baby. Go cry about your "unfair" territory and why you can't sell one of the biggest breakthroughs for MS patients since Copaxone. Cry about how you sat at home for almost a year and got paid. Cry about the amazing benefits we offer and the significant raise you got from the insignificant company that you came from. You are definition of snowflake.

We see our Dr.'s on a regular basis because we add value and are part of the treatment solution- it's not primary care or a step up like Neurology.

Pedigree? You should be embarrassed with your comments. Yes, we all agree. You are a dog.

 

[anonymous]

I have been in so many franchises in the dysfunctional company and they are all the same. We like to talk innovation and being ahead of the game and truly the customers hate us and are ready to stick it to us. The arrogance and politics is like I have never seen. There will soon be a lawsuit that will hit this company so hard they won't know what to do and everything will be out to the public. If you get offered a package take it and never look back. We lost DMs because of the writing on the wall. Those jobs are already spoken for and will go to the good old boys just like this company likes to do.

 

[anonymous]

Is it true that the NSD and 2 of 3 regionals all came from Biogen? If so, they most likely had input to the structure of the sales force and would have had insight to how territories should be aligned.

It is true. I would bet my mortgage that this thread was started by a former Biogen Rep, and the majority of negative comments made are from other former Biogen Reps. I have been around many of them, and this thread definitely fits the mold.

 

[anonymous]

It is true. I would bet my mortgage that this thread was started by a former Biogen Rep, and the majority of negative comments made are from other former Biogen Reps. I have been around many of them, and this thread definitely fits the mold.

I 100% agree. The Biogen reps are cancers to what would be a great culture. They really don't fit in here and it shows. They are completely full of themselves but have zero respect from their peers- which says A LOT about what type of rep they are.

 

[anonymous]

I 100% agree. The Biogen reps are cancers to what would be a great culture. They really don't fit in here and it shows. They are completely full of themselves but have zero respect from their peers- which says A LOT about what type of rep they are.

I recall prior to the hiring when everyone from Biogen, Tera and Novartis were bitching on their respective boards that they couldn't wait to get out of their hell holes and get on board here.......
Not being on the MS team but knowing several internally hired CS's, it sounds like the external hires aren't making a great effort ingratiating themselves here. This culture isn't perfect, there are plenty of faults and there are plenty of fat cat primadonas here who haven't worked a full week in their time in role, that should be changing soon enough. To you external MS hires, the grass is only a different shade of green here. If you did your due diligence, you'd have discovered that it is different here (aside from the territories not necessarily being fairly carved out) to some degree. Be happy you have a job because there are enough here that may not come year end.

 

[anonymous]

I recall prior to the hiring when everyone from Biogen, Tera and Novartis were bitching on their respective boards that they couldn't wait to get out of their hell holes and get on board here.......
Not being on the MS team but knowing several internally hired CS's, it sounds like the external hires aren't making a great effort ingratiating themselves here. This culture isn't perfect, there are plenty of faults and there are plenty of fat cat primadonas here who haven't worked a full week in their time in role, that should be changing soon enough. To you external MS hires, the grass is only a different shade of green here. If you did your due diligence, you'd have discovered that it is different here (aside from the territories not necessarily being fairly carved out) to some degree. Be happy you have a job because there are enough here that may not come year end.

I am internal and agree it’s primarily the former Biogen Reps that seem to be very aggressive and don’t desire to assimilate. I have found the other external hires anxious to embrace our culture. I have also found these same folks appreciative of Genentech in general, and not entitled. I think it is becoming real obvious who seems entitled, arrogant, and negative. Look at the teams that are functioning well, and most have minimal former Biogen people on them. Unfortunately we have former Biogen people in very high places and management that are looking through blinders.

 

[anonymous]

who are all there former biogen people you mention in upper leadership roles? I thought it was only reps that came from biogen. I haven't encountered lots of them and I have been on the MS side.

 

[anonymous]

I am internal and agree it’s primarily the former Biogen Reps that seem to be very aggressive and don’t desire to assimilate. I have found the other external hires anxious to embrace our culture. I have also found these same folks appreciative of Genentech in general, and not entitled. I think it is becoming real obvious who seems entitled, arrogant, and negative. Look at the teams that are functioning well, and most have minimal former Biogen people on them. Unfortunately we have former Biogen people in very high places and management that are looking through blinders.

As the former spiritual advisor to BO once said “the chickens have come home...... to roost”.

 

[anonymous]

You're a complete buffoon idiot. You can't be successful if you've been given a territory where the targets themselves don't treat MS. Don't believe me? It's happening here. There literally are territories where the vast majority of targets don't treat MS and specialize in other areas of neurology like seizures. It doesn't matter how great you are if that is what you're given. Then you're going to be compared to someone that has MS centers where they are cranking out drug? Not remotely fair.
You too would be crying if all your targets said in their best year they might have two ms patients. This is the reality whether you believe it or not.

I don't work for you and won't tell you the city I live in but it ranks on the top ten cities prescribing Ocre. Sales for my city were predictable way before you launched. It has a huge center that was putting all patients on Rituxin waiting for Ocre. For years I thought to myself "whoever is the rep chosen, he or she stands to make a lot of money. All he needs to do is show up and give them the papers needed to prescribe and not come across like an idiot" just saying....... In the world of MS and with higher efficacy infusions, this happens in every company. There are reps who are going to land those covered territories while others will land territories where the doctors haven't participated in the trials or are slow adaptors. If you came from the outside with MS experience, you should have known your targets and the expectations. If you had prior true MS experience then you should have known those territories were too small for an infusion drug and should have known that community neurologists don't jump from injections or a simple oral to an infusion. If you bought into the media hype then you shouldn't brag about your MS experience.

 

[anonymous]

I don't work for you and won't tell you the city I live in but it ranks on the top ten cities prescribing Ocre. Sales for my city were predictable way before you launched. It has a huge center that was putting all patients on Rituxin waiting for Ocre. For years I thought to myself "whoever is the rep chosen, he or she stands to make a lot of money. All he needs to do is show up and give them the papers needed to prescribe and not come across like an idiot" just saying....... In the world of MS and with higher efficacy infusions, this happens in every company. There are reps who are going to land those covered territories while others will land territories where the doctors haven't participated in the trials or are slow adaptors. If you came from the outside with MS experience, you should have known your targets and the expectations. If you had prior true MS experience then you should have known those territories were too small for an infusion drug and should have known that community neurologists don't jump from injections or a simple oral to an infusion. If you bought into the media hype then you shouldn't brag about your MS experience.

I have been handed a big MS center and don't do anymore than my 7 counterparts...actually it might be less. get a good MSL/FRM/CC and you are golden.

 

[anonymous]

I don't work for you and won't tell you the city I live in but it ranks on the top ten cities prescribing Ocre. Sales for my city were predictable way before you launched. It has a huge center that was putting all patients on Rituxin waiting for Ocre. For years I thought to myself "whoever is the rep chosen, he or she stands to make a lot of money. All he needs to do is show up and give them the papers needed to prescribe and not come across like an idiot" just saying....... In the world of MS and with higher efficacy infusions, this happens in every company. There are reps who are going to land those covered territories while others will land territories where the doctors haven't participated in the trials or are slow adaptors. If you came from the outside with MS experience, you should have known your targets and the expectations. If you had prior true MS experience then you should have known those territories were too small for an infusion drug and should have known that community neurologists don't jump from injections or a simple oral to an infusion. If you bought into the media hype then you shouldn't brag about your MS experience.

Then to your point, it is ludicrous to have a rank report and more importantly an awards night where people cheer for someone that has done nothing different and probably has worked a lot less.

 

[anonymous]

I have been handed a big MS center and don't do anymore than my 7 counterparts...actually it might be less. get a good MSL/FRM/CC and you are golden.

Well you didn't get the coveted territory with a huge academic center with an author. Look at the authors on your clinical papers. There are your coveted territories. If you didn't land one of those you can't compete because the others are writing ocrevus on everyone like a one size shoe fits all!