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Layoff?

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Or just wait it out for people to leave. There has been a high degree of attrition here lately. Home office people leaving (not hitting 2024 VPR that’s for certain). Plenty of positions available in pharma beyond BI. Sometimes the grass is greener.
 




















Already seeing home office jobs being frozen. Also thinning the herd a little bit. Managed care team and other home office roles. Once great organization is no longer.

And the dog is black.
 












anonymous said:
I've been in training classes and was laid off (other pharma company) you can't trust any of them.
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That’s because you were either flunking the training class or you got caught with another trainee ‘studying’. Happens in every training class. My guess is you flunked bc you’re too stupid to get laid.
 




anonymous said:
I just started at BI and I’m already nervous for the longevity of this role. Why do you think there would be a layoff? All divisions?
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Why would there be layoffs? Let’s eee….a generic competitor in a year or so for Farxiga. OFEV is flat/down and the successor is a couple years off. Spiriva is done and Stiolto can’t recover that loss. Spevigo and Cyltezo? There are abandoned dogs with 2 legs that perform better. Newsflash, BI is not a specialty company.

Lastly, gross to net is brutal. For every dollar that BI sells, they give back 80¢ in rebates, discounts, etc. hard to keep a sales force employed that barely NETS 20¢/rx. Why do you think Timmo is leaving? Family sounds like a nice reason, but that ain’t it.
 












anonymous said:
Just stop before you get too far behind....

Nerandomilast is looking at Q3 2025 launch.
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Have fun with that. Maybe that drug will do ok, but replace the $2 billion from OFEV? Don’t hold your breath. *No pun intended. Even if Nerandomilast is a success, have fun competing with Al M shows up at a competitor and poaches the remaining talent left in ILD.

Still comes down to BI is barely a 2 drug company. Jardiance might have a year or 2 left and ILD days of multi billion are over. Like finger banging old Mary Jane Rottencrotch.
 




anonymous said:
That’s because you were either flunking the training class or you got caught with another trainee ‘studying’. Happens in every training class. My guess is you flunked bc you’re too stupid to get laid.
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I’d vote bad rep is the answer.

Santiago was a subpar rep and was sent home for their own safety. You weep for Santiago and your curse BIPI and the manager. Santiago's departure, while tragic, probably saved scripts. And his manager’s existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves NBRx. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at P2P discussions, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like Agility, Accountability and Intrapreurship. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent detailing something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the reach or the frequency to explain myself to a man who delivers lunches then takes home leftovers under the blanket of the very budget that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I approve it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, otherwise, I suggest you pick up an iPad, open Veeva and leave some samples. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
 




anonymous said:
I’d vote bad rep is the answer.

Santiago was a subpar rep and was sent home for their own safety. You weep for Santiago and your curse BIPI and the manager. Santiago's departure, while tragic, probably saved scripts. And his manager’s existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves NBRx. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at P2P discussions, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like Agility, Accountability and Intrapreurship. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent detailing something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the reach or the frequency to explain myself to a man who delivers lunches then takes home leftovers under the blanket of the very budget that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I approve it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, otherwise, I suggest you pick up an iPad, open Veeva and leave some samples. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
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Hilarious
 




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