Is there anything worse than Cardinal Health?

I struggle to find anything in this world that is worse than working for CAH.
Try working for Arjo! You get hired for one thing and then they do the good ole bait and switch and eventually there’s only a shred of the job you were hired for.

Once they’ve bled you dry and crushed your soul, they’ll throw you aside and start over with a new sucker! Anne Sigiouine and her team of three stooges, CR, DR, and who ever that CFO is, are ruining a dream that was started a long time ago in Sweden.
 












What is crazy is I am in one division and you are obviously in another and yet, here we are, complaining about the same things. I was hoping it was just a blaze issue and someone would do us all a favor and get rid of the covidien bozo's we got stuck with but apparently it is an issue stemming from higher up. So sad. This used to be a great place to be and now... just pathetic.

Note to upper management - want to know how to destroy motivation? Let me tell you - do a town hall and throw out a lot of new terms (zero-based) and blame the employees for YOUR poor VOE results (I loved that part!) Or get the stooges up there who all were visibly uncomfortable and some almost in tears to tell us again that we are in trouble - we know we are - and we blame you. For dragging our once good name through the mud (opioid scandals) and paying way too much for companies that are worthless (Covidien & Cordis). Pull your heads out of your asses and use some common sense (wait - that boat sailed). Polishing up my resume after this post. Thankfully most recruiters and potential employers know why we are looking so I don't have to keep explaining how you took a once great company and made it a pile of poo. Btw, adding more administrative task really doesn't help - it just gives you a statistical reason why we're not doing well. Doesn't show the truth.
 
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Much truth. What a hollow facade to have VOE but not want true honest responses. A company that wants employees to tow the line in the face of devastatingly horrible decisions is delusional. A great leader wants to hear the truth, that is the point of a VOE. Hear it and make decisions to try and win their people back. Of course that would take leadership that aren’t corrupted, self serving, mentally polluted hacks. That would certainly leave all these losers out as having any clue as to what is a proper course to steer this ship. Let the bankruptcy begin!
 
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All you whiners on this board are just scared, because you know you can’t sell anything, and have been skating by collecting an average paycheck. Now that blaze is here and shaking up the sales force to actually perform, you’ll all be gone. good luck! Enjoy that next gig at Wal Mart
 






Obviously another suck up from Covidien who didn't know how awesome this company was and everyone was making money - not just the favorites. And favorites it is - interesting how PR specialty reps got a reduced quota while the rest of us are stuck making up for bad decisions by our c-suites. Upper is showing all the signs of being totally clueless - hence the "restructuring".
 






All you whiners on this board are just scared, because you know you can’t sell anything, and have been skating by collecting an average paycheck. Now that blaze is here and shaking up the sales force to actually perform, you’ll all be gone. good luck! Enjoy that next gig at Wal Mart

If you knew how to perform, Medtronic would have kept you instead of selling you off.
 






All you whiners on this board are just scared, because you know you can’t sell anything, and have been skating by collecting an average paycheck. Now that blaze is here and shaking up the sales force to actually perform, you’ll all be gone. good luck! Enjoy that next gig at Wal Mart
 






Give me a break, this job blows. If you add another Process to the multi-layer processes already in place my head will spin around. This company is a disaster and everyone knows it. The product managers are leaving in droves because they have either No product to sell or the product is so horrible the reps can't sell it. Try returning a product three times/selling it 3x to a customer because it is either a bad or mediocre product and then come back to me and tell me I'm a crybaby after I've sold something 3 miserable times. It will be Years before this company gets its act together. They don't even understand that it is Tanking in so many ways. Keep your heads buried in the sand, yeah, that will help.
 












All you whiners on this board are just scared, because you know you can’t sell anything, and have been skating by collecting an average paycheck. Now that blaze is here and shaking up the sales force to actually perform, you’ll all be gone. good luck! Enjoy that next gig at Wal Mart
 






Nope, I sell Crap 2-3x to the same customers because our products stink or are mediocre at best. Please please tell me again how I can't sell!
Get your head out of your ass-OUR STUFF IS EITHER BACKORDERED OR IT SUCKS! I would much rather sell a product that works well and is superior for an over blown price than Crap I wouldnt use on myself or my own family.
 






All you whiners on this board are just scared, because you know you can’t sell anything, and have been skating by collecting an average paycheck. Now that blaze is here and shaking up the sales force to actually perform, you’ll all be gone. good luck! Enjoy that next gig at Wal Mart
Funny, The word going around Medtronic was that none of you were working, so they shipped you off to the land of misfits here at Cardinal. I'd be happy to work at WalMart. Their management level employees make more than our sales force
 












Was he even at the last Town Hall? All I saw was a lot of scared little kids blaming everyone and everything else but themselves. I'm pretty sure that the "re-structure" will do nothing more than benefit the favs (again) and punish the rest of us for having the audacity to question management. I'm pretty sure they don't have a clue which is why we haven't heard anything and it won't be in time for the annual meeting which will be more of the same stupid stuff we do every year. Forced "fun" dinners, "product training" or my favorite - systems training with no internet. When is the board of directors going to pull their heads out of their asses and bring in some real leaders who actually understand our business???
 






Nope, I sell Crap 2-3x to the same customers because our products stink or are mediocre at best. Please please tell me again how I can't sell!
Get your head out of your ass-OUR STUFF IS EITHER BACKORDERED OR IT SUCKS! I would much rather sell a product that works well and is superior for an over blown price than Crap I wouldnt use on myself or my own family.

BETTER REREAD THE CHALLENGER SALE (JOKING). THAT DRIVEL HAS MIND FUCKED COUNTLESS SALES PEOPLE IN THIS ORGANIZATION. ANYONE WITH A CLUE LEFT AT THIS DUMPSTER FIRE?
 






All you whiners on this board are just scared, because you know you can’t sell anything, and have been skating by collecting an average paycheck. Now that blaze is here and shaking up the sales force to actually perform, you’ll all be gone. good luck! Enjoy that next gig at Wal Mart

Business at COV/MDT actually went downhill after Blaze took over.

Most of the time when in desperate time, leaders will make change(s) for the shake of making changes, just to show that he/she is doing something.
 






There are some huge hurtles that lay ahead for us and most of them are our own doing. Contracts that don't allow for price increases, outdated systems and analytics which are not universal or understood by most, employee pay and benefits which are not keeping up with the market, scandals created by other divisions and then you throw in the Covidien grenade which brings us even more problems such as back orders, poor quality and a management team who couldn't run the business before but is now drowning but they refuse to see it. So maybe its time for someone to realize that:
a. We shouldn't be afraid of losing non-profitable customers. Their pricing has increased with inflation and it is insane for us not to do the same. Trying to service a customer in 2019 with 2010 pricing is stupid and unprofitable. To make it worse, they complain about our poor service because we are only equipped to get employees who will take 2010 pay because of the stupid contracts. The flip side - don't take it out on the rep who has worked tirelessly to keep them happy but was handcuffed by poor systems and contracts.
b. Take a look at what we did have right - sales territories were manageable and the bell curve showed what was normal, market deviations. What was wrong? Managers not being able to adjust locally for losses at the Corp level. And our GPO people - they drive the ship more than anyone these days and yet, no one commented on our huge losses with HPG. Thank goodness she left or we would be completely out.
c. Enforce contract compliance. That's the one thing he was trying to do right but backed down. If your're going to hold my feet to the fire, back at you.
d. Systems shouldn't be this complicated. I mean everything - try finding a product manager, try finding a product, try getting any information, try using the Hub, Atlas, SFDC, PM and try and figure out how to get paid.
 






If you need our help, and want us to be "open" and you have your hands out, why are you hosting a call at the butt-crack of dawn when half the country isn't even technically working yet.
 






On this week's installment of "Is there anything worse than Cardinal", let's discuss the new "open" and "transparent" calls from our management staff that are all totally scripted. "Please say this..." plainly written on the slides. Or how about that Ben Thompson call where he mentions the Boston Consultant Group repeatedly and simply repeated what we already know. Things suck. And you and your buddy Blaze brought that s&* with you. But it's not just CAH your buddies messed up. One guy is running Zimmer (their post look like this one) and another is running Bard (again it sucks too). Someone should shut Covidien down with the culture and chaos they have created through medical.

We know the business cycle changes and a company has to change to keep up with it. This isn't the first re-org or re-structure but I think the best description I heard about this one is, it is like fish. It is fine in the beginning but now it's just been too long and the stench isn't going away.