Intra-Cellular

[anonymous]

I’m interviewing with him. Why is he such a bad manager?

Go to the Sunovion CP board. Look under best/worst DMs and C Smith thread. His names shows up dating back many years multiple times. High turnover. Constant HR investigations. You have to be desperate to work for him. I’d look elsewhere unless you need a job. Hope this helps.

 

[anonymous]

Vandavanirovionynergy

Vanda
Sunovion
Avanir
Synergy

Those of us in wave 1 are guinea pigs in this experiment called Intra-Cellular. The Sunovion managers may have a clue. The other three companies hire nothing but off label coaching managers

Guinea Pigs don’t have a choice. You did.

 

[anonymous]

Avanir - Actual sales people left there a long long time ago

Sunovion - Never had any, entry level positions all the way back to the last name of the company and entry level pay for the duration of the company, regardless of products

Otsuka - See Sunovion

Vanda - Literally the place where managers that have fired, out of the industry, sued successfully for egregious and embarrassing issues, arrested for drug distribution (actual street drugs, not pharmaceuticals), and those that are contract managers with failed mega pharma experience

Takeda - Maybe about 15 years ago they had sales people, in diabetes

It is a simple equation - budget over quality with the recruiters, budget way way way ahead of quality for the VP as the extremely lacking background demonstrates, below budget directors with one already leaving due to incompetence abroad as the quote (also a clear reflection of the "vp", more than 6 months needed to fill manager positions as far as down as option number 5 and even 6 in most places (also a clear reflection of the "directors"), rep positions have had more than 500 people say "No Thank You" to an offer, that is 2 to 3 people declining the position across the country

Field sales group, none of this matters now, obviously we have major challenges ahead of us and the PE/HF/PF that all bailed based on the commercial capability report as part of competitive personnel intelligence is irrelevant now. SM handed it to a few folks up here, who passed it on to GR, he did the right thing with a message of support on linkedin to his team and they will work through the people that have to go. The share price reacted to the those big exits, but in the coming months we can make progress just as we talked about and move it forward. The bogus recruiting firm is receiving a significant rate cut, while the director still here, managers, and reps that intentionally utilized misinformation about themselves or other candidates to get in or to get "their" people in is being addressed. One director gone is the start of addressing those fraudulent resumes and fiction through false networking with the rest to come ahead of launch, which is why a separate firm was hired to reconstruct the verification process. For those of that fall into this group, just resign and get out because your fraudulent manipulation has been identified.

 

[anonymous]

Field sales group, none of this matters now, obviously we have major challenges ahead of us and the PE/HF/PF that all bailed based on the commercial capability report as part of competitive personnel intelligence is irrelevant now. SM handed it to a few folks up here, who passed it on to GR, he did the right thing with a message of support on linkedin to his team and they will work through the people that have to go. The share price reacted to the those big exits, but in the coming months we can make progress just as we talked about and move it forward. The bogus recruiting firm is receiving a significant rate cut, while the director still here, managers, and reps that intentionally utilized misinformation about themselves or other candidates to get in or to get "their" people in is being addressed. One director gone is the start of addressing those fraudulent resumes and fiction through false networking with the rest to come ahead of launch, which is why a separate firm was hired to reconstruct the verification process. For those of that fall into this group, just resign and get out because your fraudulent manipulation has been identified.

what in the world are you talking about

 

[anonymous]

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Field sales group, none of this matters now, obviously we have major challenges ahead of us and the PE/HF/PF that all bailed based on the commercial capability report as part of competitive personnel intelligence is irrelevant now. SM handed it to a few folks up here, who passed it on to GR, he did the right thing with a message of support on linkedin to his team and they will work through the people that have to go. The share price reacted to the those big exits, but in the coming months we can make progress just as we talked about and move it forward. The bogus recruiting firm is receiving a significant rate cut, while the director still here, managers, and reps that intentionally utilized misinformation about themselves or other candidates to get in or to get "their" people in is being addressed. One director gone is the start of addressing those fraudulent resumes and fiction through false networking with the rest to come ahead of launch, which is why a separate firm was hired to reconstruct the verification process. For those of that fall into this group, just resign and get out because your fraudulent manipulation has been identified.

ITS CALLED THE AVANIR SUNOVION NET WORK ,,EVERYONE ELSE NEED NOT APPLY!!!

 

[anonymous]

Field sales group, none of this matters now, obviously we have major challenges ahead of us and the PE/HF/PF that all bailed based on the commercial capability report as part of competitive personnel intelligence is irrelevant now. SM handed it to a few folks up here, who passed it on to GR, he did the right thing with a message of support on linkedin to his team and they will work through the people that have to go. The share price reacted to the those big exits, but in the coming months we can make progress just as we talked about and move it forward. The bogus recruiting firm is receiving a significant rate cut, while the director still here, managers, and reps that intentionally utilized misinformation about themselves or other candidates to get in or to get "their" people in is being addressed. One director gone is the start of addressing those fraudulent resumes and fiction through false networking with the rest to come ahead of launch, which is why a separate firm was hired to reconstruct the verification process. For those of that fall into this group, just resign and get out because your fraudulent manipulation has been identified.

Take a breath. Get some air and then explain what the hell you are talking about. Lots of info but impossible to dissect.

 

[anonymous]

This company is Forest labs all over. I know of one who didn’t even have to interview at all. Just got a call from hiring manager with an offer (I knew of people interviewing for the same position). I bailed once I found out hiring manager and took a look at results of drug. Forest Leadership = forest bonus = shitty. At goal it’ll be under 10k a qtr mark my word. As for 140k keep dreaming. Maybe 115-120k if lucky

Hate to say it but psychiatry is the equivalent of primary care these days. Long gone are the days of being specialist. Get your samples and drop a ton off and grab those signatures. metrics will be 80 % sample ratio to your 10 calls per day. Again it’s forest leadership all over. I would run far far away Company won’t be around in a few years

 

[anonymous]

What are the car choices? I read in an earlier post they were shitty.

confirmed. They are just as bad as reported, Altima Camry Cherokee. Worst options in the industry

 

[anonymous]

confirmed. They are just as bad as reported, Altima Camry Cherokee. Worst options in the industry

Welcome to start-up land, millennial.

I have an idea. How bout you go to work and actually sell something before you start bellyaching about what you’re getting screwed out of. You accepted their offer. Not the other way around. What I hear chances are very high you got the job because of paternalism not merit anyway. Well done rock star.

And before you post some pseudo-clever, smartass respone yes I’m “old”. Yes I remember the days before iPads. Yes my first car was a Dodge Intrepid. No, I did not interview for a position after doing some investigating. And yes, I remember when reps went out and proved their worth by knowing as much if not more than the clinician so there was mutual respect and real value in what we did.
So go ahead, fire away.

 

[anonymous]

Welcome to start-up land, millennial.

I have an idea. How bout you go to work and actually sell something before you start bellyaching about what you’re getting screwed out of. You accepted their offer. Not the other way around. What I hear chances are very high you got the job because of paternalism not merit anyway. Well done rock star.

And before you post some pseudo-clever, smartass respone yes I’m “old”. Yes I remember the days before iPads. Yes my first car was a Dodge Intrepid. No, I did not interview for a position after doing some investigating. And yes, I remember when reps went out and proved their worth by knowing as much if not more than the clinician so there was mutual respect and real value in what we did.
So go ahead, fire away.

This. So spot on. I can’t wait to see what my upgrade is when I launch #1

 

[anonymous]

Anyone interview yet for Mid Atlantic?

 

[anonymous]

Welcome to start-up land, millennial.

I have an idea. How bout you go to work and actually sell something before you start bellyaching about what you’re getting screwed out of. You accepted their offer. Not the other way around. What I hear chances are very high you got the job because of paternalism not merit anyway. Well done rock star.

And before you post some pseudo-clever, smartass respone yes I’m “old”. Yes I remember the days before iPads. Yes my first car was a Dodge Intrepid. No, I did not interview for a position after doing some investigating. And yes, I remember when reps went out and proved their worth by knowing as much if not more than the clinician so there was mutual respect and real value in what we did.
So go ahead, fire away.

hilarious and accurate!!!!

I guess I’m old too

 

[anonymous]

confirmed. They are just as bad as reported, Altima Camry Cherokee. Worst options in the industry

Seriously?

Anyone from Alkermes is about to back out if so.

 

[anonymous]

Welcome to start-up land, millennial.

I have an idea. How bout you go to work and actually sell something before you start bellyaching about what you’re getting screwed out of. You accepted their offer. Not the other way around. What I hear chances are very high you got the job because of paternalism not merit anyway. Well done rock star.

And before you post some pseudo-clever, smartass respone yes I’m “old”. Yes I remember the days before iPads. Yes my first car was a Dodge Intrepid. No, I did not interview for a position after doing some investigating. And yes, I remember when reps went out and proved their worth by knowing as much if not more than the clinician so there was mutual respect and real value in what we did.
So go ahead, fire away.

Who cares buddy? Nobody’s on here complaining about not getting what competitors don’t offer.

 

[anonymous]

This company is Forest labs all over. I know of one who didn’t even have to interview at all. Just got a call from hiring manager with an offer (I knew of people interviewing for the same position). I bailed once I found out hiring manager and took a look at results of drug. Forest Leadership = forest bonus = shitty. At goal it’ll be under 10k a qtr mark my word. As for 140k keep dreaming. Maybe 115-120k if lucky

Hate to say it but psychiatry is the equivalent of primary care these days. Long gone are the days of being specialist. Get your samples and drop a ton off and grab those signatures. metrics will be 80 % sample ratio to your 10 calls per day. Again it’s forest leadership all over. I would run far far away Company won’t be around in a few years

And wait until you get exposed to the biggest blockhead, bully, egomaniac, JB.
Truly a legendary a hole and self impressed and self proclaimed super genius. One of the biggest jokes of all time.

 

[anonymous]

Welcome to start-up land, millennial.

I have an idea. How bout you go to work and actually sell something before you start bellyaching about what you’re getting screwed out of. You accepted their offer. Not the other way around. What I hear chances are very high you got the job because of paternalism not merit anyway. Well done rock star.

And before you post some pseudo-clever, smartass respone yes I’m “old”. Yes I remember the days before iPads. Yes my first car was a Dodge Intrepid. No, I did not interview for a position after doing some investigating. And yes, I remember when reps went out and proved their worth by knowing as much if not more than the clinician so there was mutual respect and real value in what we did.
So go ahead, fire away.

I don’t need any free hand outs, sorry you have never worked for a reputable coming. Even in big pharma J&J would let us upgrade our cars on our own dime

 

[anonymous]

I don't know what the economics are for a company, but I would prefer to drive what I want and get a car allowance.

 

[anonymous]

What a bunch of Prima Donnas . Worry more about selling this drug then the stupid car you get .

 

[anonymous]

What a bunch of Prima Donnas . Worry more about selling this drug then the stupid car you get .

Call people names all you want but I can only imagine comments like this come from people who barely work and don't spend much time in their vehicles or those who have never been in a position where they got a good vehicle.

 

[anonymous]

What a bunch of Prima Donnas . Worry more about selling this drug then the stupid car you get .

Were you ever a rep or just never had to drive more than a few miles?
Also we have to pay $125/month to drive what we are told to drive. If too cheap to do car allowance, give us opportunity to pay an extra $100 or so for something better.