• Thurs news: Lilly’s weight-loss drug prevents diabetes. Merck pays $588M for bispecific. Amgen speaks out about bone density issues with obesity drug. PTC gets gene therapy approval. JNJ’s 340B legal fight. See more on our front page

How to destroy field medical

Lots of dead wood at this place. PH leads them all with most resignations of any leader while in Onc. Mindset, her favorite word is something she does not have. Many other so called leaders excel in driving people away. I left LS while in resp along with many others due to his lack of people skills.

If the company took notice of all the people who left due to poor leadership, then just maybe this place would fix all that is wrong and it would make it a good place to be like it was many years ago. Not holding my breath as it likely won't change.
 




This place is pathetic. Want to get promoted - just be a horrible leader who demotivates and pushes people to quit - has no interpersonal skills - speaks in corporate jargon and is not authentic - has top-down outdated command and control mindset and style and you will move up the ladder. Exhibit A - see PH. Unbelievable.
 




One of the best meetings I've attended in a while.. the old Genentech is coming back slowly!!! We're in field roles meeting customers every week, don't like it then crawl back into the hole you came out of!! The door is right there see yourself out.
 




Old Genentech doesn’t mean you need to be an asshole to others. If you don’t like what someone posts don’t follow the thread.

PH has successfully managed up.

If there’s someone to worry about, worry about HA leading ICX. He’s Genentech’s monkey pox - a rare, slow-moving infection feeding on other people’s work.
 
















Instead of eating strategy for breakfast, culture took a huge dump and is taking a siesta

we went from slightly good to pretty worse

the culture is built to last…. like the Titanic
 




The meeting was fun but we all know that comes with risk so to say people don’t get it is just not true. Some of us would rather actually live while we are still alive and ok with that risk.

Worry about where Rav and Jamie are taking us, as it’s clear their strategy is drive people out (that’s why people in medical are looking to leave). There is zero stability in medical here and people are over it. So either ignore it and focus elsewhere or leave because they really don’t care. They will also be gone soon enough. Then there will be a new leader with a new vision and the cycle continues. Wouldn’t want to clean this mess up for all the money in the world so I’m not expecting we will get any great talent here.
 




McKinsey’s mantra is to monetize customer data. That’s what they teach at most MBA schools, and that’s how Veeva and ZS make money through multi-level-marketing, until the system breaks down.

Let’s do a ICX thought experiment. Sharing it here since our LT often follow these threads and ZS recommendations, over listening to employees.

If you were a HCP and you realized that a pharma company was tracking every email that they sent you, tracked how many hours of video you consumed (*cough* Novartis) - only to have a sales rep call you for follow up, would you be overjoyed with emotions or would you start sending the email to spam and black list the rep/company?

The use of AI to track is in itself a thorny issue. AI algorithms are innately complex. The more advanced the technology gets, the harder it will be for the average human to dissect the decision-making process.

Importantly, AI doesn’t understand relationship building or the importance to give the customer some space/time, in effect would the AI’s constant notifications make our field look too “thirsty” and lead to fewer access i.e. overly attached girlfriend (look up the meme). HCPs crave quality discussions, not trackers. Moreover, all of our competitors will be/are already tracking, harassing, and inundating the HCPs - what makes Genentech any different?

AI is in itself a black box. It can be easily skewed toward one perspective or another. Who would we assign responsibility to when the algorithm goes awry i.e. customer data breach, loss of customer confidence, customers getting too email emails, customer getting the wrong information? ZS, McKinsey, Veeva, or Genentech?

Pharma Organizations are already struggling with the issue of trust, tracking our customers and heeding to constant alerts flashing on your computer screen will demoralize the field team, and concerns with data privacy and security will turn off the HCP.

All of these solutions were good before the Facebook scandal, there is renewed scrutiny with these “social media” like strategies.
 




Rav’s business class taught him to

Let’s do a ICX thought experiment. Sharing it here since our LT often follow these threads and ZS recommendations, instead of listening to us.

If you were a HCP and you realized that a pharma company was tracking every email that they sent you, tracked how many hours of video you consumed (*cough* Novartis) - only to have a sales rep call you for follow up, would you be overjoyed with emotions or would you start sending the email to spam and black list the rep/company?

The use of AI to track is in itself a thorny issue. AI algorithms are innately complex. The more advanced the technology gets, the harder it will be for the average human to dissect the decision-making process.

Take for example, AI doesn’t understand relationship building or the importance to give the buyer some space, in effect would the AI’s constant notifications make our field look too “thirsty” and lead to fewer access i.e. overly attached girlfriend (look up the meme). HCPs crave quality discussions, not trackers. I’ve yet to see this LT talk about boosting quality of these interactions.

AI is in itself a black box. It can be easily skewed toward one perspective or another. Who would we assign responsibility to when the algorithm goes awry i.e. customer data breach, customer getting too email emails, customer getting the wrong information? ZS, McKinsey, Veeva, or Genentech?

Pharma Organizations are already struggling with the issue of trust, tracking our customers and heeding to constant alerts flashing on your computer screen will demoralize the field team, and concerns with data privacy and security will turn off your HCP.

All of these solutions were good before the Facebook scandal, there is renewed scrutiny with these “social media” like strategies.
 




I can’t believe they kept him….. talk about dead weight. But don’t worry he is going to change our lives. I mean he will probably save field medical.

QUOTE="anonymous, post: 6693806"]Guys stop!

you’ve compared HA to the opposite of Midas touch, a patch of pubic hair, an egomaniac, a dingleberry, a narcissist, and opportunist.

It’s no wonder he is being defensive and lashing out on CP.

He’s not a terrible leader, it’s not like he forced people into crowded booth in a cigar bar at a conference to make himself look good during a pandemic….oh wait, never mind.[/QUOTE]
 








So it’s ok for Rav to call old ways of working “bullsh*t” but when his ideas are challenged then they are personal?

how does the LT get through to him?

The emperor has no clothes.

I love how the Ted Lasso references have been replaced with Warriors memorabilia as if we won’t notice….so much fluff, no content.
 












Lots of MSLs seem to be looking elsewhere seem unhappy here. I’m in commercial side but all I keep hearing is
It is a wreck. It’s not perfect on commercial either but most of us arent that unhappy. If I have to work with a 3rd MSL in 2 yrs I just can’t!
 








Lots of MSLs seem to be looking elsewhere seem unhappy here. I’m in commercial side but all I keep hearing is
It is a wreck. It’s not perfect on commercial either but most of us arent that unhappy. If I have to work with a 3rd MSL in 2 yrs I just can’t!

Boy please! We M-S...SELL for yall or at least that's where Rav is taking us with all this proactive talk. If you can't deal with some change you at the wrong company. You're over here complaining about working with your 3rd MSL, how abt you just get out there and sell what you need to sell, bc we're tired of exploiting our access to get YOUR job done. Bye Felicia!
 




Hey I’m doing just fine on my IMs (Individual measures) just keep getting me access and I will put in Veeva Felicia
I will send you a MIRF now and then go back to the library