Ex Terminated Abbvie Employees


- left Abbvie on my own terms after Thanksgiving & moved to Lilly, couldn't be happier

Congrats ! That was a wise decision. I also read the tea leaves several years back, based on my DM mentor I went back to college and am currently 4th year medical student (at age 32) at an Ivy League medical school. I project $400K a year to start in my specialty of cardiology. I look forward to all those a-hole pharma reps sucking up to me with their latest crap. Best decision you can make is to go back to school and get an MD, but if not feasible you will do very well at Lilly as it is a great company.
 
Congrats ! That was a wise decision. I also read the tea leaves several years back, based on my DM mentor I went back to college and am currently 4th year medical student (at age 32) at an Ivy League medical school. I project $400K a year to start in my specialty of cardiology. I look forward to all those a-hole pharma reps sucking up to me with their latest crap. Best decision you can make is to go back to school and get an MD, but if not feasible you will do very well at Lilly as it is a great company.

Great news! I'm sure working in pharma was a valuable piece experience that drove you to seek a full blown medical career. Cardiology is one of the better specialties in this day and age, especially with all the new exciting innovations being made available to the heart patient. Best of luck with your new career!
 
First of all lets not get into religion, and I'm not a Mormon.

Making fun of the MD degree is your prerogative; however, it is a lot of hard work and I'm going to incur probably $250-300K of student loan debt. Assuming I complete in 2018, I will then have 3-4 years of residency specializing in cardio. That's a serious life commitment and in those 5 years from today you will probably pull down $750 k of salary, bonus etc. So my 'break even' point will be somewhere out in 2025 ! Don't make this out as a fairy tale that's an insult and disingenuous.
 
Congrats ! That was a wise decision. I also read the tea leaves several years back, based on my DM mentor I went back to college and am currently 4th year medical student (at age 32) at an Ivy League medical school. I project $400K a year to start in my specialty of cardiology. I look forward to all those a-hole pharma reps sucking up to me with their latest crap. Best decision you can make is to go back to school and get an MD, but if not feasible you will do very well at Lilly as it is a great company.

good luck......
 
Congrats ! That was a wise decision. I also read the tea leaves several years back, based on my DM mentor I went back to college and am currently 4th year medical student (at age 32) at an Ivy League medical school. I project $400K a year to start in my specialty of cardiology. I look forward to all those a-hole pharma reps sucking up to me with their latest crap. Best decision you can make is to go back to school and get an MD, but if not feasible you will do very well at Lilly as it is a great company.

Your bullshit story ended with "DM Mentor..."
 
JUMP THIS SINKING SHIP ABBVIE. GRAB A LIFERAFT AND MAKE YOUR WAY TO DRY LAND. LEADERSHIP IS VERY POOR AND THEY RUN IT BY FEAR. GET OUT NOW. MASS FIRINGS ARE HAPPENING ACROSS THE GLOBE
 
JUMP THIS SINKING SHIP ABBVIE. GRAB A LIFERAFT AND MAKE YOUR WAY TO DRY LAND. LEADERSHIP IS VERY POOR AND THEY RUN IT BY FEAR. GET OUT NOW. MASS FIRINGS ARE HAPPENING ACROSS THE GLOBE

This is utter nonsense and an example of BS obtained by rectal extraction ! Per HR, there is a severe shortage of QUALIFIED sales people, and Leadership is actively looking for team players. There are NO mass firings or forced attrition. PERIOD ! !
 
Since a PIP relates to every Pharma company and industry I'll explain PIPS .......It's a very simple straight forward answer ....99.9% of the time (in Pharma) you are History within a year Whether through actual termination or self attrition, meaning you quit because you can't live on the edge anymore. A "Performance Improvement Plan" is about providing cover and documentation to help get rid of an employee that for some reasons (many) somebody in the management chain of command wants to move out It's a way for management to claim they did all they could to help the employee in questio while at the same time sending a message to the person that their next step is probably termination and a kick in the *** out the door it's about gathering additional evidence and setting up the framework for termination

PIP Reasons For Target On your Back

1. You uncover wrongdoing unethical or illegal activity and Speak Up

2. You voice opinions on favoritism of certain protected employees by management These Employees are usually snitch/rats and "Managers Pets" They gossip and spread rumors and lower management protects them

3. You just plain can't produce or actually reform the required position (it happens)

4. You Have excessive Absenteeism (Occurrences ) This is the only PIP that's easy to erase

5. You Call HR or Ethic Committee Hotline to report an incident under the guise of anonymity..... Bad Move Now your manager knows and their Pets know and spread the word to fellow employees


EX GLOBALLY HR ( not the fraud )