Dermatology Expansion

[anonymous]

Bad: topicals are hard to price to make money/generic world, no derm heritage, low salaries, hard to launch anything with Covid restrictions

Good: good takeover candidate so get your equity up there, small company that hasn't been infected with Amgen, Novartis, Abbie types yet - so the first couple years you will be invented to sell/earn. After that, look for big Pharma bone heads to infiltrate and implement selling models, coaching guides, all the BS that kills culture but grows activity

Infected by AZ is better? Cmon man!

 

[anonymous]

Should us non celgene reps apply or is it pointless since it sounds like everyone is moving over from celgene/Amgen?

the Celgene derm reps all signed non- competes when they went to Amgen. Unless incyte plans to fight that I think non-Celgene Reps have as good a chance as anyone.

 

[anonymous]

the Celgene derm reps all signed non- competes when they went to Amgen. Unless incyte plans to fight that I think non-Celgene Reps have as good a chance as anyone.

did celgene/Amgen managers not have to sign a non compete?

 

[anonymous]

did celgene/Amgen managers not have to sign a non compete?

They were laid off last month. That’s who’s coming over, so non-compete’s don’t apply to them.

 

[anonymous]

did celgene/Amgen managers not have to sign a non compete?

they don’t apply to managers the same way

 

[anonymous]

I was contacted for an interview. No one has elaborated much past the topics JAK for products, is that it?

 

[anonymous]

I was contacted for an interview. No one has elaborated much past the topics JAK for products, is that it?

did you not research before applying and speaking to a recruiter?

 

[anonymous]

did you not research before applying and speaking to a recruiter?

Can you just answer the question? I know the cream but what about Olumiant? I was never contacted by a recruiter

 

[anonymous]

Has anyone interviewed for Gulf Region? Is there a manager?

 

[anonymous]

Incyte is the next Celgene. Hands down. Small company, they have other strong divisions, pay their rep’s health insurance- which is unheard of, high base, huge equity and great IC plan, including a $10k training bonus. Shows how much they care about their people unlike Amgen. I accepted a rep position at Incyte (more than what I was making at Amgen) after being severed from
that shithole getting 18 months worth of salary plus bonus for that time (thank you Ron& Joe hand) Amgen was a dumpster fire. Webexes and CC’s everyday. No time to actually sell. Offices hate amgen reps. All celgene reps and managers leaving Amgen. Mass exodus.

 

[anonymous]

Incyte is the next Celgene. Hands down. Small company, they have other strong divisions, pay their rep’s health insurance- which is unheard of, high base, huge equity and great IC plan, including a $10k training bonus. Shows how much they care about their people unlike Amgen. I accepted a rep position at Incyte (more than what I was making at Amgen) after being severed from
that shithole getting 18 months worth of salary plus bonus for that time (thank you Ron& Joe hand) Amgen was a dumpster fire. Webexes and CC’s everyday. No time to actually sell. Offices hate amgen reps. All celgene reps and managers leaving Amgen. Mass exodus.

Congratulations on the new gig! Were you a rheumatology or dermatology rep at Celgene?

 

[anonymous]

Incyte is the next Celgene. Hands down. Small company, they have other strong divisions, pay their rep’s health insurance- which is unheard of, high base, huge equity and great IC plan, including a $10k training bonus. Shows how much they care about their people unlike Amgen. I accepted a rep position at Incyte (more than what I was making at Amgen) after being severed from
that shithole getting 18 months worth of salary plus bonus for that time (thank you Ron& Joe hand) Amgen was a dumpster fire. Webexes and CC’s everyday. No time to actually sell. Offices hate amgen reps. All celgene reps and managers leaving Amgen. Mass exodus.

What products will you be selling???

 

[anonymous]

Incyte is the next Celgene. Hands down. Small company, they have other strong divisions, pay their rep’s health insurance- which is unheard of, high base, huge equity and great IC plan, including a $10k training bonus. Shows how much they care about their people unlike Amgen. I accepted a rep position at Incyte (more than what I was making at Amgen) after being severed from
that shithole getting 18 months worth of salary plus bonus for that time (thank you Ron& Joe hand) Amgen was a dumpster fire. Webexes and CC’s everyday. No time to actually sell. Offices hate amgen reps. All celgene reps and managers leaving Amgen. Mass exodus.

Of course Amgen is a hive of fake activity, but what Incyte doesn't have is Ron.

Ron made the culture, through the DMs, down to the reps.

Ron controlled training (no Jedi's running around claiming 20 year old p values are important).

Ron controlled IC (the most important element of behavior modification)

Ron controlled the Awards Trips (motivated to stay out late)

Without Ron, Incyte will just be a much, much better place than Amgen but it won't be close to being a Celenge. That is over.

I think the real thing Incyte has going for them is they don't have Debbie around polluting the culture with her toxic behavior.

 

[anonymous]

That’s a huge salary for a topical. How many topicals are there for eczema? There must be dozens of generics too

Huge salary? My question to you is what’s your current salary now? You must make peanuts or perhaps you are jobless??

 

[anonymous]

Incyte is the next Celgene. Hands down. Small company, they have other strong divisions, pay their rep’s health insurance- which is unheard of, high base, huge equity and great IC plan, including a $10k training bonus. Shows how much they care about their people unlike Amgen. I accepted a rep position at Incyte (more than what I was making at Amgen) after being severed from
that shithole getting 18 months worth of salary plus bonus for that time (thank you Ron& Joe hand) Amgen was a dumpster fire. Webexes and CC’s everyday. No time to actually sell. Offices hate amgen reps. All celgene reps and managers leaving Amgen. Mass exodus.

So I guess that means the non compete at Amgen doesn’t matter much if all those reps and their managers are moving over to Incyte.

 

[anonymous]

What’s the range of base pay?

 

[anonymous]

Huge salary? My question to you is what’s your current salary now? You must make peanuts or perhaps you are jobless??

They very clearly stated “that’s a huge salary for a topical.” They didn’t say it was a huge salary compared to their current salary. Literacy is fun.

With that being said, don’t compare to topical salaries, compare to biologic salaries. They’re asking because a lot of people are being recruited who have never sold the latter but only the former.

 

[anonymous]

They very clearly stated “that’s a huge salary for a topical.” They didn’t say it was a huge salary compared to their current salary. Literacy is fun.

With that being said, don’t compare to topical salaries, compare to biologic salaries. They’re asking because a lot of people are being recruited who have never sold the latter but only the former.

So how much do you make?

 

[anonymous]

So I guess that means the non compete at Amgen doesn’t matter much if all those reps and their managers are moving over to Incyte.

They’re counting on Amgen not caring. Amgen will wait until the full hiring is done, then they will pursue legal action against the employees who broke the non-solicit agreement. It happens quite frequently and unfortunately it’s really the reps who lose and end up unemployed.

 

[anonymous]

They’re counting on Amgen not caring. Amgen will wait until the full hiring is done, then they will pursue legal action against the employees who broke the non-solicit agreement. It happens quite frequently and unfortunately it’s really the reps who lose and end up unemployed.

I think what most people are forgetting is that the non-compete only involves drugs promoted while at Amgen that are direct competitors with the product you promoted. Of which, Otezla is indicated for PsO & PsA, not atopic dermatitis. Technically they are separate disease states and don’t compete, which gets the rep out scot free...

As for managers, that’s a different story, although I don’t know exactly what they signed. However, most of the time w managers it revolves around poaching the reps at your prior company...