COMPANY IS MICRO MANAGEMENT CITY!!!

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anonymous said:
Well said. Just doing a numbers count of KAM and TBS positions, the number of RBD's should be reduced by at least 40%. At this level, RBD's should manage a total of 10 employees each. Now what to do with these employees? Perhaps they could be offered other types of positions, as this top-heavy management will have very bad consequences. With too many RBD's on board, Sage becomes top heavy and faces many negative impacts—all are unnecessary challenges. RBD's already feel the need to compete with other RBD's, which can lead to them pushing for conflicting initiatives. With this existing top heavy hierarchy, they worry more about managing and less about letting their reps just do their jobs. This is leading the managers to micromanaging their teams to justify their position to their AD's—which is bad for the reps and their productivity. Having a top heavy organization negatively impacts all employees. Reps are already feeling overly managed, which causes undue stress and makes them less likely to think creatively or suggest changes for growing Sage. It's unfortunate as it could result in losing a lot of good people if they don't make structural changes. Having a manager manage 5 to 6 polished professionals is just bad business.
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None of you, and I repeat, none of you....have a product to sell. Stop calling the kettle black. You’re all a money drain right now.
 






anonymous said:
Well said. Just doing a numbers count of KAM and TBS positions, the number of RBD's should be reduced by at least 40%. At this level, RBD's should manage a total of 10 employees each. Now what to do with these employees? Perhaps they could be offered other types of positions, as this top-heavy management will have very bad consequences. With too many RBD's on board, Sage becomes top heavy and faces many negative impacts—all are unnecessary challenges. RBD's already feel the need to compete with other RBD's, which can lead to them pushing for conflicting initiatives. With this existing top heavy hierarchy, they worry more about managing and less about letting their reps just do their jobs. This is leading the managers to micromanaging their teams to justify their position to their AD's—which is bad for the reps and their productivity. Having a top heavy organization negatively impacts all employees. Reps are already feeling overly managed, which causes undue stress and makes them less likely to think creatively or suggest changes for growing Sage. It's unfortunate as it could result in losing a lot of good people if they don't make structural changes. Having a manager manage 5 to 6 polished professionals is just bad business.
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YES!! Please, Home Office, do something about this! PLEASE do the right thing!
 






anonymous said:
None of you, and I repeat, none of you....have a product to sell. Stop calling the kettle black. You’re all a money drain right now.
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I see what you did right there. Divert the well thought out points made. What points,exactly, do you disagree with? Be a part of the solution, not part of the problem. Our upper management is bloated and needs adjustments. End of story. Oh, and quit riding with me every 3-4 weeks. It’s getting old, real fast.
 






anonymous said:
You all should consider yourself very lucky. I work in California for most likely, the worst manager of all. Jon Coktoasten based in Stockton, CA is the worst I have seen in my 25 years in the industry. Other than his strikingly good looks, he is an empty suit and major micromanager. I am looking to leave the first decent opportunity that comes my way.

Paul
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Fake news. Total BS post. Go
Back and troll the other boards where you worked for the same Jon Coktoasten. Really pitiful that somebody who does not even work at Sage takes the time to post this type of crap. Titrations your meds please
 






anonymous said:
I see what you did right there. Divert the well thought out points made. What points,exactly, do you disagree with? Be a part of the solution, not part of the problem. Our upper management is bloated and needs adjustments. End of story. Oh, and quit riding with me every 3-4 weeks. It’s getting old, real fast.
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THANK YOU. I can't even begin to tell you how much this is the talk amongst all of the KAM's and TBS's. I have never had a manager that seemingly has nothing else to do but ride our asses. They seem very insecure to me with rookie management skills. This is not a fun job at all. Just this fact alone has started a frenzy towards a lot of people looking for better jobs. Why doesn't Sage just get it? I've heard horror stories about one of the AD's that leaves constant messages out to each employee as if it is a personal message, but in reality just copies the same exact message to everyone without changing a thing. Embarrassing. The cut and paste routine is so, so insincere. I guess they don't realize everyone talks and reads their messages to each other in disbelief. I got offered to go back to my old job and my husband thinks I should just do it. I was ready for a new launch, but there is something to be said with having a manager be your advocate instead of a constant micromanager shadow.
 






anonymous said:
THANK YOU. I can't even begin to tell you how much this is the talk amongst all of the KAM's and TBS's. I have never had a manager that seemingly has nothing else to do but ride our asses. They seem very insecure to me with rookie management skills. This is not a fun job at all. Just this fact alone has started a frenzy towards a lot of people looking for better jobs. Why doesn't Sage just get it? I've heard horror stories about one of the AD's that leaves constant messages out to each employee as if it is a personal message, but in reality just copies the same exact message to everyone without changing a thing. Embarrassing. The cut and paste routine is so, so insincere. I guess they don't realize everyone talks and reads their messages to each other in disbelief. I got offered to go back to my old job and my husband thinks I should just do it. I was ready for a new launch, but there is something to be said with having a manager be your advocate instead of a constant micromanager shadow.
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Please go back ASAP. And thank you
 












anonymous said:
Fake news. Total BS post. Go
Back and troll the other boards where you worked for the same Jon Coktoasten. Really pitiful that somebody who does not even work at Sage takes the time to post this type of crap. Titrations your meds please
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That was not a BS post. I worked at Otsuka 4 years ago and this jerk Coktoasten was my manager. I feel bad for the rep that is working for him out west. It is a cry for help. Nobody deserves to work for a micromanager like Coktoasten no matter how handsome he is.
 












anonymous said:
That was not a BS post. I worked at Otsuka 4 years ago and this jerk Coktoasten was my manager. I feel bad for the rep that is working for him out west. It is a cry for help. Nobody deserves to work for a micromanager like Coktoasten no matter how handsome he is.
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My friend. There is nobody managing in the West from Otsuka so please go troll somewhere else.
 










































My RBD is a female and I was really excited to work for her and a pro-women organization. She is the worst manager I have ever had! She is desperate, unprofessional, and micromanages us to death. She has made the job unbearable for any of us. I have never experienced anything like this before. My last manager was always available and would help with any problem. They would possibly come with me in my territory about 3 times a year when I had an important account I wanted them to visit. That was reasonable and they left it up to me to bring them in when necessary. Many providers do not want managers coming into their offices. I thought my RBD was an experienced manager, but she just doesn't possess the skills of a good manager.
Four very important skills she DOES NOT Possess
1. She is a terrible listener.
2. She never encourages us to be our own leaders
3. She does not motivate and Inspire any of us
4. She is the opposite of humble
 






anonymous said:
My RBD is a female and I was really excited to work for her and a pro-women organization. She is the worst manager I have ever had! She is desperate, unprofessional, and micromanages us to death. She has made the job unbearable for any of us. I have never experienced anything like this before. My last manager was always available and would help with any problem. They would possibly come with me in my territory about 3 times a year when I had an important account I wanted them to visit. That was reasonable and they left it up to me to bring them in when necessary. Many providers do not want managers coming into their offices. I thought my RBD was an experienced manager, but she just doesn't possess the skills of a good manager.
Four very important skills she DOES NOT Possess
1. She is a terrible listener.
2. She never encourages us to be our own leaders
3. She does not motivate and Inspire any of us
4. She is the opposite of humble
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Im so sorry for you. Its horrible to feel like that about your manager. My last manager was the exact same way. I recently resigned and now I feel valued and appreciated again. My manager is awesome now. My old manager use to ride with everyone on our team for two days once a month. She was the reason that I left the company. Prior to that company my manager rode with us when we needed them to and let us run our business our way. It makes me thankful now that I didnt come to work for Sage. Good luck to you!
 






anonymous said:
THANK YOU. I can't even begin to tell you how much this is the talk amongst all of the KAM's and TBS's. I have never had a manager that seemingly has nothing else to do but ride our asses. They seem very insecure to me with rookie management skills. This is not a fun job at all. Just this fact alone has started a frenzy towards a lot of people looking for better jobs. Why doesn't Sage just get it? I've heard horror stories about one of the AD's that leaves constant messages out to each employee as if it is a personal message, but in reality just copies the same exact message to everyone without changing a thing. Embarrassing. The cut and paste routine is so, so insincere. I guess they don't realize everyone talks and reads their messages to each other in disbelief. I got offered to go back to my old job and my husband thinks I should just do it. I was ready for a new launch, but there is something to be said with having a manager be your advocate instead of a constant micromanager shadow.
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Unfortunately, that is how a lot of rookie managers manage. They dont have the same kind of experience as the rest of the team and they feel they have to prove something so they micromanage you to death. It wont get any better. Good luck to you!
 












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