BL Europe

[Anonymous]

Do they not tell ye anything, the waterford plant know how many are going, 200 +

Two word...... BULL SHIT

 

[Anonymous]

That's not true. There will be arount 10% cuts in Munich. If they fire 200 then the only one who will be left is the cleaning lady and the building owner. The entire TPV has around 300 employees and thats worldwide.

Do they not tell ye anything, the waterford plant know how many are going, 200 +

 

[Anonymous]

Misunderstood your post. Just ignore mine.

That's not true. There will be arount 10% cuts in Munich. If they fire 200 then the only one who will be left is the cleaning lady and the building owner. The entire TPV has around 300 employees and thats worldwide.

 

[Anonymous]

I am so excited, its kick-arse time for B+L Europe (France and Germany). Finally, the purges have reached all these overrated, overpaid, ineffective, inexperienced, arrogant and lazy hang around people. Great times are ahead! Mike, keep wielding that fat cutting knife! I love you!

 

[Anonymous]

I am so excited, its kick-arse time for B+L Europe (France and Germany). Finally, the purges have reached all these overrated, overpaid, ineffective, inexperienced, arrogant and lazy hang around people. Great times are ahead! Mike, keep wielding that fat cutting knife! I love you!

Sounds like an old fogey in Rochester trying to trash the internal competition.Just remember Berlin etc were stand alone viable businesses before the cold dead hand from Rochestergrabbed hold.

 

[Anonymous]

I am so excited, its kick-arse time for B+L Europe (France and Germany). Finally, the purges have reached all these overrated, overpaid, ineffective, inexperienced, arrogant and lazy hang around people. Great times are ahead! Mike, keep wielding that fat cutting knife! I love you!

Seriously: what is your problem? Your comment adds absolutely no value whatsoever to this thread. In fact: I feel sorry for you. Given the fact that you seem so eager to lash out at your colleagues like that, you must be struggling with some serious psychological and/or social issues. Get well soon.

 

[Anonymous]

Seriously: what is your problem? Your comment adds absolutely no value whatsoever to this thread. In fact: I feel sorry for you. Given the fact that you seem so eager to lash out at your colleagues like that, you must be struggling with some serious psychological and/or social issues. Get well soon.

LOL. The best wishes should be extended to all B+L employees. Fear and isolation due to lack of information breed fear, insecurity and paranoia. In fact people may already have PTSD due to witnessing sudden extreme lifestyle changes being imposed on long-standing colleagues.

B+L, I mean Valeant employees are currently suffering the above symptoms. Individuals are in denial that shocking events are happening. They are exhibiting traumatic reality avoidance behaviours or else have delusions of grandeur that nothing bad can ever happen to them.

Have some me-time. Spend some quality time with family and friends. Understand that there is a world outside B+L and that sometimes change is good. Enjoy the ride.

 

[Anonymous]

BL Europe = Valeant Poland

 

[Anonymous]

Take it easy there cowboy, enough with the racial slurs already.....
You're making an embarrassment of yourself, and doing nothing other then showing that you're jealous of how the WF plant people have dodged the bullets.

The Irish you're trying to take the piss out of are the very ones that have escaped the chop so far and probably will going forward due to their 12.5% corporate tax rate.

If WF is sold so will the Rochester lens manufacturing plant probably to J&J or some such, if Valeant are such fuckers to work for then maybe these lens manufacturing people are getting a lucky escape and have a way out, something most of the rest of us dont have and will be stuck with MP as our CEO and all the shit that goes with it.[/QUOT

 

[Anonymous]

Take it easy there cowboy, enough with the racial slurs already.....
You're making an embarrassment of yourself, and doing nothing other then showing that you're jealous of how the WF plant people have dodged the bullets.

The Irish you're trying to take the piss out of are the very ones that have escaped the chop so far and probably will going forward due to their 12.5% corporate tax rate.

If WF is sold so will the Rochester lens manufacturing plant probably to J&J or some such, if Valeant are such fuckers to work for then maybe these lens manufacturing people are getting a lucky escape and have a way out, something most of the rest of us dont have and will be stuck with MP as our CEO and all the shit that goes with it.[/QUOT

 

[Anonymous]

Toulouse R&D is gone.
UK 100 people gone.
Zug gone.
Total Europe close to 450 people gone per work council schedule this year alone, more to come.
Everything to be folded into regional Valeant model.
Europe now you are back to dark ages.
By the way please focus on Valeant's vicious need to go to Poland and former Eastern bloc for manufacturing. Watch out Berlin, Aubenas, Montpelier, Milan - you all are moving.

So when is there more to come? What exactly is the regional valeant model ?

 

[Anonymous]

To answer some questions

 

[Anonymous]

YOU do your homework you twat, Valeant has doubled in size since the B&L aquisition, do you honestly think they can put through adequate amounts of finance from such a large business through such a small shell comapny as the one in Citywest without drawing unwanted attention. Idiot...

You have no idea. Not only can they run Waterford profits through the little office in Citywest, they will also run Rochester profits, it's legal. The flights that used to land in Shannon for "extraordinary rendition" of suspects will now land with extraordinary amounts of Rochester cash. For this to continue both Waterford and Rochester will continue to manufacture, Ned Flanders will continue to "lead" Waterford and Rochester manufacturing in an unholy, unstructured mess, surrounded by his acolytes, great times ahead, just hope they pay decent redundancy. Life moves on, I have seen the future already, it ain't pleasant and the return of the amazons is already underway, get out before they fuck you proper.

 

[Anonymous]

To summarise the above thread, the lay-offs are as follows. Can anyone provide more details?

Switzerland, Zug – 35
Germany, Berlin – 67
Germany, Munich – 30
UK, Kingston – 110
France, Montpellier – 97
France, Toulouse –
France, Aubenas –
Italy, Milan –
Netherlands –
Ireland, Waterford – 200

 

[Anonymous]

To summarise the above thread, the lay-offs are as follows. Can anyone provide more details?

Switzerland, Zug – 35
Germany, Berlin – 67
Germany, Munich – 30
UK, Kingston – 110
France, Montpellier – 97
France, Toulouse – HOW MANY???
France, Aubenas –
Italy, Milan –
Netherlands –
Ireland, Waterford – 200

What about Heidelberg?

 

[Anonymous]

You have no idea. Not only can they run Waterford profits through the little office in Citywest, they will also run Rochester profits, it's legal. The flights that used to land in Shannon for "extraordinary rendition" of suspects will now land with extraordinary amounts of Rochester cash. For this to continue both Waterford and Rochester will continue to manufacture, Ned Flanders will continue to "lead" Waterford and Rochester manufacturing in an unholy, unstructured mess, surrounded by his acolytes, great times ahead, just hope they pay decent redundancy. Life moves on, I have seen the future already, it ain't pleasant and the return of the amazons is already underway, get out before they fuck you proper.

I never said anything about solely putting WF and Rochester plants profits through citywest, they can now put finance from some of their other entities through the WF plant aswell as the shell in city west, Valeant is now too big to put all through citywest but using both WF and Citywest, nice amounts of cash can be put through at the 12.5% corporate taxation rate thus avoiding the higher taxation rates in the original country of origin.

 

[Anonymous]

I never said anything about solely putting WF and Rochester plants profits through citywest, they can now put finance from some of their other entities through the WF plant aswell as the shell in city west, Valeant is now too big to put all through citywest but using both WF and Citywest, nice amounts of cash can be put through at the 12.5% corporate taxation rate thus avoiding the higher taxation rates in the original country of origin.

Muppet!

 

[Anonymous]

To summarise the above thread, the lay-offs are as follows. Can anyone provide more details?

Switzerland, Zug – 35
Germany, Berlin – 67
Germany, Munich – 30
UK, Kingston – 110
France, Montpellier – 97
France, Toulouse –
France, Aubenas –
Italy, Milan –
Netherlands –
Ireland, Waterford – 200

Waterford -200 my arse, 'cause that's where you pulled that number. Waterford is zero until the big boys McKinsey come to town. Pure speculation. All the other numbers ars available through the EWC and Waterford was out of scope.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: BL Europe Benelux

Any updates on Europe, no matter which country?

Benelux: 24 FTE's are flagged as History.That does not seem a lot, but....
- major part of ELC (netherlands) is european distribution, cuts will come later?!
- Commercial Benelux: from (only) 40 FTE's now 31 (= 22%)
Unofficial announcements about promotion Budgets: -/- 60%
" " " market data budgets: -/- 80%
So, hardly any promotional support and fully blinded without market intelligence
2014 could be a very cold year

 

[Anonymous]

Hello all, McKinsey due in Waterford October 6th, clear out before end 2013 I hope, but we are safe in the knowledge that our steadfast adherence to the cornerstones espoused by WP will ensure we are valued members of a progressive and loyal company. Our superb leaders will ensure that Valeant realises that we are all indispensable and absolutely key cornerstones in the future of this wonderful new Valeant world. Mike will reward us all with pay rises, and perpetual job security.

The other option is that we are all fucked, which is the more likely ?