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Umm, that is pretty much the decision making process followed for deciding who to retain. In the previous cuts, almost everyone who was a really low performer was let go. The current group being retained includes the small percentage of exception performers (the players who run fast and kick the ball farthest), and then the remainder of the team is being selected based on who the captains like since there is so little variation on the basic skills.

BTW, there have been a number of studies showing that relative performance rankings between the extremes (the very good and the very bad) are pretty much in a random order; Lilly is trying to pick out the third and fourth best of a group when there is little difference in the real performance of people ranked third, fourth, fifth, and sixth in this group of seven. The managers are going to pick the people that they like for the open spots
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Previous poster was correct. You have dumbed it down to get all lowest common denominators, including "leaders" and "boots on the ground" -- pretty shameful.
 






The majority of my Lilly IT career was wonderful, and I'll always appreciate the company for providing me with employment during my 20-something years when- I'll admit it- I was working really hard but had no clue what I was doing.
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Finally, someone admits what was wrong in Lilly IT. Too much incompetence. Good riddance to idiots who lie and bandaid things to save your ass!
 






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Anonymous said:
What the heck? I am 72 years old and you are telling me to grow up? You are a moron. Wait until you have seen what I have seen, tried to do what I did, and then and only then, come back and post your silly ass comments. Now go away before I whip your ass in another post. You Loser.
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Thanks for the laugh, Old Timer! Perhaps in your next job (i.e. death), you will learn more about personal accountability. Look out for St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he'll be sure that you own up to shortcomings. You didn't learn it here...here's to hoping you learn it there.
 






Anonymous said:
Thanks for the laugh, Old Timer! Perhaps in your next job (i.e. death), you will learn more about personal accountability. Look out for St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he'll be sure that you own up to shortcomings. You didn't learn it here...here's to hoping you learn it there.
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You young whipper-snappers! Look at what you did to this company.

My generation made it big and strong. You destroyed it.
 






Anonymous said:
Thanks for the laugh, Old Timer! Perhaps in your next job (i.e. death), you will learn more about personal accountability. Look out for St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he'll be sure that you own up to shortcomings. You didn't learn it here...here's to hoping you learn it there.
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Gee -- I'm surprised you've even heard of the Pearly Gates -- or know who St. Peter is -- I can pass the test -- can you? Are you one without shortcomings? Should JL know about this so that you may get a promotion?
 






Anonymous said:
Gee -- I'm surprised you've even heard of the Pearly Gates -- or know who St. Peter is -- I can pass the test -- can you? Are you one without shortcomings? Should JL know about this so that you may get a promotion?
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Nice try at pointing the finger again, Old Man. Take a look in the mirror, and you'll see the #1 reason for everything that's gone wrong. Own up to it, Old Man. You'll be happier.
 






Anonymous said:
Nice try at pointing the finger again, Old Man. Take a look in the mirror, and you'll see the #1 reason for everything that's gone wrong. Own up to it, Old Man. You'll be happier.
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Sorry to burst your intuitive, all-knowing bubble, but this wasn't the old man speaking -- middle-aged woman -- oh, sorry, -- everything's always everybody else's fault to those external psychologically, morally, and mentally deficient individuals! Maybe you better listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyL8ed93x5w&feature=related

There's more to life than the wicked leeches (such as yourself) remaining at Eli Lilly! I thank God everyday I'm no longer there -- very (and I mean VERY) successful at another large corporation within the metropolitan area! (And, I don't have to sleep with the boss, or join the GLEAM team, etc. to "prove" myself.) -- Took the package and ran without looking back!

BTW -- those that can leave Lilly, do -- those that can't remain behind and mask their miserable attitudes/ lives by buying things, denigrating their fellow "friends" -- trying to prove how "valuable" they are to everyone. Well, I hate to inform you that -- you're not! You are so pathetic -- but can't see it (of course) and don't care to know it -- if only you knew what your "friends" are saying behind your back!
 






Anonymous said:
Sorry to burst your intuitive, all-knowing bubble, but this wasn't the old man speaking -- middle-aged woman -- oh, sorry, -- everything's always everybody else's fault to those external psychologically, morally, and mentally deficient individuals! Maybe you better listen to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyL8ed93x5w&feature=related

There's more to life than the wicked leeches (such as yourself) remaining at Eli Lilly! I thank God everyday I'm no longer there -- very (and I mean VERY) successful at another large corporation within the metropolitan area! (And, I don't have to sleep with the boss, or join the GLEAM team, etc. to "prove" myself.) -- Took the package and ran without looking back!

BTW -- those that can leave Lilly, do -- those that can't remain behind and mask their miserable attitudes/ lives by buying things, denigrating their fellow "friends" -- trying to prove how "valuable" they are to everyone. Well, I hate to inform you that -- you're not! You are so pathetic -- but can't see it (of course) and don't care to know it -- if only you knew what your "friends" are saying behind your back!
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I can tell you're VERY happy at your new job, which is why you run back to the Lilly board and get into arguments with anonymous people. HILARIOUS! Thanks for giving me a good laugh, sweetheart!!
 






Anonymous said:
Sorry to burst your intuitive, all-knowing bubble, but this wasn't the old man speaking -- middle-aged woman -- oh, sorry, -- everything's always everybody else's fault to those external psychologically, morally, and mentally deficient individuals! Maybe you better listen to this:


Are you a Cougar?
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Anonymous said:
I can tell you're VERY happy at your new job, which is why you run back to the Lilly board and get into arguments with anonymous people. HILARIOUS! Thanks for giving me a good laugh, sweetheart!!
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You know -- you're right -- my last post here -- not every coming back to pathetic posts with Lilly Loosers. Moving on -- don't want to clutter my brain with you sucking psycopaths. Besides, it's my one year anniversary of freedom -- what better way to celebrate!
 






Anonymous said:
You know -- you're right -- my last post here -- not every coming back to pathetic posts with Lilly Loosers. Moving on -- don't want to clutter my brain with you sucking psycopaths. Besides, it's my one year anniversary of freedom -- what better way to celebrate!
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So, were you a sales rep, or in some other type of position? You're lucky that you were able to move on to another good company. There are a number of Lilly employees who will have or have had the terrible misfortune of having to compete with hundreds of others for the same few positions in the Indpls. area and will spend months, if not years, trying to replace their jobs. These are people who will be losing the benefits and pension they would have had otherwise, hopefully. You are very fortunate to have gone on to a more profitable situation, and I hope you realize that.

While you may be unhappy with former Lilly employees, not ALL Lilly employees fit the description of those you are voicing your complaints to. Realistically, I cannot disagree with some of your comments. Just know, that there ARE still several who are going to be hurt catastrophically by losing their jobs. And many of these people would NEVER destroy others for ANY reason. The shame of all this is that the employees who destroy others continue to get away with it and keep their jobs. If you're faring well now, be glad, move on, and don't come back to be railed at by the negative people still left at Lilly.
 






Anonymous said:
So, were you a sales rep, or in some other type of position? You're lucky that you were able to move on to another good company. There are a number of Lilly employees who will have or have had the terrible misfortune of having to compete with hundreds of others for the same few positions in the Indpls. area and will spend months, if not years, trying to replace their jobs. These are people who will be losing the benefits and pension they would have had otherwise, hopefully. You are very fortunate to have gone on to a more profitable situation, and I hope you realize that.

While you may be unhappy with former Lilly employees, not ALL Lilly employees fit the description of those you are voicing your complaints to. Realistically, I cannot disagree with some of your comments. Just know, that there ARE still several who are going to be hurt catastrophically by losing their jobs. And many of these people would NEVER destroy others for ANY reason. The shame of all this is that the employees who destroy others continue to get away with it and keep their jobs. If you're faring well now, be glad, move on, and don't come back to be railed at by the negative people still left at Lilly.
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Keep your options open, better yet, expand them as quickly as possible.
 






Anonymous said:
You know -- you're right -- my last post here -- not every coming back to pathetic posts with Lilly Loosers. Moving on -- don't want to clutter my brain with you sucking psycopaths. Besides, it's my one year anniversary of freedom -- what better way to celebrate!
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"Loosers"....really? Learn to spell, sweetie. When you try to put down the people who still work here, it helps your cause when you don't look like an idiot.
 






Uh... so I started this thread to throw some positivity in the mix, and now it looks like every other post on the board.
I don't even understand what's being argued at this point.

Anyway, like I said- good luck to my old IT friends, and I hope things go well with the vendor situation. It may not seem like it now, but you really are looking at a GREAT career opportunity!

Oh... and I'm extending that to the person who "crashed" my post as well. You sound like one of those who's job isn't in jeopardy, but it really wouldn't hurt to be a little more sensitive to those who weren't quite so lucky... tides do turn sometimes.
As to your assumptions about my work performance and attitude, I guess I'll just let you have that argument because it's not worth naming myself just to win an argument with an anonymous person.
 






Anonymous said:
Just heard an interesting story. A friend of a friend is suffering from a serious case of cancer and joined an intense group psycotherapy program to deal with her resulting depression and anxiety. She was astounded to find out that several of the members of her therapy group are current Lilly employees who are suffering badly and on verge of a mental breakdown from the ongoing threat that they will be amongst the next group of employees thrown under the bus by JCL's minions in HR...
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How about those employees who are no longer at the company, because their COWORKERS very effectively LIED about them to management and destroyed their options for continued employment?! Imagine how nice it is to look for MONTHS for another job in the Indy area. Not nice at all!!! I am not at all surprised people are seeking some kind of help to get through the anxiety brought on by job loss, whether it is potential or impending.

I happen to be one whose life was TOTALLY, TOTALLY, TOTALLY DESTROYED by the liars I worked with. Believe me, I'd be very happy to tell the CEO he has a bunch of morons working in the low ranks at the company and they no longer deserve to remain employed, because they are LIARS and as deceitful as they come. What is worse is that their managers have foolishly bought into their lies--male managers who listen to senseless prattle from female underlings. They should be gotten rid of now, too--immediately! Toss them out on the street, pull all their money out of their bank account, and let them see how nice that is!!!!!!!!

That is what it is really like working for Eli Lilly--they destroy you while you're there and then they make sure they bankrupt you on the way out the door! It is time for Indianapolis to know that this company has a lot of corruption inside--it's not the prestigious company you think it is!
 






Anonymous said:
The majority of my Lilly IT career was wonderful... The important thing is, it only took one leadership change for none of that to matter. I'll leave out the details, but when you get a new TL (who just hates your very face from the start) and that TL forms a tight bond with the Manager... well, a good record will buy you about 1 year.

Each one of you is more valuable than they've allowed you to believe in years.
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Sorry for leaving out most of your original post, but you made a couple of very true points. New manager who does not like you (or who has been lied to and set up to dislike you) = end of your career, even on the heels of working with a previous manager who DID like you and gave you great ratings, in addition to being very appreciative of your work and efforts. Amazing how that can all turn around overnight, literally!

Your closing statement is SO true, sadly so. Basically, "You are more valuable than they let you believe." I have often felt I gave up myself when I first walked through the doors of that company. Came from several years of having been highly valued elsewhere to wondering what is wrong with this company!? Hateful, hateful, hateful. Anyway, back to your main point--you were actually trying to say something positive. I think you achieved that. There are just a lot of people who have actually experienced very hurtful situations in this company.
 






Anonymous said:
There are just a lot of people who have actually experienced very hurtful situations in this company.
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Particularly women subordinates who have been treated with rudeness and disrespect by male managers at Eli Lilly. Wonder if their wives have any idea their hubbies have such dark "other" sides? Another thing that the CEO should take care of--bad management!
 






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