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Being forced to room with someone at meetings is so degrading and dehumanizing

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Anonymous said:
This doesn't work. HR does a full blown and exhaustive research into your "condition". Keep in mind, HR hacks love to dig up dirt and snoop around. It's their mindset to undermine you in cases like this. I had a doctor buddy write an excuse that I had sleep apnea and needed my own room. His office started getting all these calls from Pfizer HR about my condition, wanting verification. Then, they wanted me to go to a second doctor and they sent me a list of specialists in my area they would accept a diagnosis from. All for a stupid room!!! That's the way things are done here, at least in the midwest
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Since Pfizer legal is too stupid and management is to disrespectful to provide us single room accommodations, then you have to outsmart them. Use their own system against them. The sharing of rooms is no doubt a violation of privacy rights, but it'll take some loud angry minority or rainbow coalition group to get it changed quickly. The forced sharing of sleeping quarters is patently a "hostile work environment" and a powder keg of potential litigation for Pfizer.

Demand an ADA or religious accommodation request. For the ADA, get a doc to fill out the ADA form that HR will send you. The laws are quite strict and HR violates them by demanding the doc letter if your request is obvious and the accommodation is reasonable (but I digressed, sorry). Sleep apnea, anxiety, any sleep disorder du jour will do.

Religious accommodation is that you require solitude to pray all evening. It's none of their fucking business what "religion" you ascribe to. If they balk, let an attorney talk to them. They won't retaliate, so don't worry.

These assholes in upper management are laughing that all of you who don't do this. Think of all the cash they saved, by not doing the right thing initially. They figure that if enough people finally do this, they will only then change this sharing rooms sham. Or figure out that these mass meetings and training are a huge waste of money and do it over the internet via videoconferencing in the comfort of your own home.

http://employerslawyer.blogspot.com/2006/04/requiring-rooming-on-road-caution-from.html

http://www.jan.wvu.edu/media/Sleep.html

http://www.awakeinphilly.org/Legal/ADA/EEOC-EnforcGuidline.htm

http://www.burnslawnj.com/PracticeAreas/ADA.html

http://www.ada.gov/pcatoolkit/chap1toolkit.htm
 




Anonymous said:
Can I sleep with my nuts in your sack after I slip you a Mickey?
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funny you asked......is this you?

http://employerslawyer.blogspot.com/2006/04/requiring-rooming-on-road-caution-from.html

Requiring Rooming on the Road - A Caution From Your Lawyer

Posted 3:17 PM by Michael Fox

Today's article in the NYT, My Colleague, My Roommate, notes that corporate America is beginning to borrow a concept from the non-profit and academic world -- having its employees share hotel rooms while on the road. A cost-saving measure that you can imagine, for the most part, is being met with less than enthusiasm.

While I don't normally post allegations from lawsuits -- as a service to anyone needing ammunition to oppose such a forced rooming request, let me offer as Exhibit A, the summary of a lawsuit filed just this past week in Austin, Texas:
Sexual harassment, retaliation, invasion of privacy and intentional infliction of emotional distress case seeking exemplary damages in which plaintiff worked for defendant [Company] as a technician and had to share a room with another employee, defendant [Doe] on a work related trip. [Doe] "masterbated [sic] in front of plaintiff " and plaintiff was terminated after he reported the behavior.

From D-1-GN-06-001277, filed in Travis County District Court on April 12, 2006, thanks to the always terrific reporters from the Courthouse News Service.

I rest my case.
 
















I don't see why they DENY YOU THE RIGHT TO PAY FOR YOUR OWN ROOM. That's where the company crosses the line from cost containment to breaching the boundaries of individual rights and privilege as a consumer. I'd rather pay a few hundred dollars to have some time to myself at these 18 hour a day mind fucks they have us go to and they don't let you do it. Give us that option, at the negotiated company rate and make it a first come, first serve basis.
 




It is degrading.

You could always just request to stay at another hotel, and make it up by saying you are going to stay with a friend if you dickhead manager gives you a hard time about it.
 




I don't disagree...there are a lot of things to dislike about Pfizer. But this notion that there are a bunch of reps who want to pay for their own rooms is ridiculous. There is no way that more than 0.5% of reps would even consider paying $500 out of pocket for a room at a meeting. Lets get serious we all stopped washing our cars after they said we could not expense it anymore. The OP is just upset that he can not take advantage of expensing one movie a night when on business travel. It could get embarassing if his roommate walks in.
 




Anonymous said:
I don't disagree...there are a lot of things to dislike about Pfizer. But this notion that there are a bunch of reps who want to pay for their own rooms is ridiculous. There is no way that more than 0.5% of reps would even consider paying $500 out of pocket for a room at a meeting. Lets get serious we all stopped washing our cars after they said we could not expense it anymore. The OP is just upset that he can not take advantage of expensing one movie a night when on business travel. It could get embarassing if his roommate walks in.
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You'd be surprised. Do you honestly mean to say that you don't mind going to a work meeting and being cooped up with some random person for 3-4 nights?
 












Here's an idea. They are all about saving money right? Let's stop having all these meetings period. When necessary, have web -ex teleconferences and let us all sleep in our own beds at home. What a novel idea. It really is surprising that we can not have our own rooms. I would think that Pfizer could write that off as a business expense.
 




Anonymous said:
No. unfortunately not. This was recent, a prime example of how things are done at this company
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This investigative research in not at all recent. Pfizer has been doing this for the last several years. And, HR does not handle the claims, it is actuall reviewed (approved or disapproved) by the same dummies who handle the short tem disablity claims at HQ. And yes they will request actual doctor notes and test results so you have to prove that you have a credible medical condition. I know, I've been through this exhaustive process.
 




Anonymous said:
This investigative research in not at all recent. Pfizer has been doing this for the last several years. And, HR does not handle the claims, it is actuall reviewed (approved or disapproved) by the same dummies who handle the short tem disablity claims at HQ. And yes they will request actual doctor notes and test results so you have to prove that you have a credible medical condition. I know, I've been through this exhaustive process.
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Yes, by all means! Let's SPEND lots of money on doctors and proving things instead of popping for a $125 room. That's the Pfizer spirit. Spend ridiculous amounts of money and go to great lengths to DO THE WRONG THING. No regard for people.
 








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