Any info on Precision Therapeutics?

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Are any of the other current reps getting constantly pestered by JF? I swear he calls me several times a week, some weeks everyday, just to see what I am doing. My god I wish he would get off my back
 












JF is great, he has great experience moving his buisness and is responsible for this product today. My goodness he is installing his own tactics now of personnaly paying techs to send of specimens, signing his own AOF, and the great preceptorship gig. The best was when he told us to cut a specimen in 2 because their is a better chance it will grow and you get credit for 2 and not 1 case. The ethics behind this SOB is scary. he is a snake in the grass and is going to ruin the company into the ground. It is time to start looking again. i have only been here a few months and this was defenitly a wrong move.
 






I'd like to take a moment to wish Matt Marshall and Sean McDonald a Happy Father's Day. I speak for all current and former sales employees at PTI when I say they truly are like 2nd fathers to all of us. They are the epitome of leaders - honest and forthcoming, ethical to the highest degree, and always looking out for what's best for those who are under their watch. I don't know of a single person who isn't a better man or woman for having worked for you. Here's to you guys...
 






THIS PLACE IS A JOKE......IM SHOCKED MEDICARE HAS NOT CAME DOWN ON THEM...THE TEST RESULTS ARE RARELY AND ALMOST NEVER USED BY THE ONCOLOGIST. A WELL KNOWN PHYSICIAN THAT ORDERS THE TEST HAS SHARED WITH PRECISION MANAGMENT THAT THE RESULTS WOULD NEVER BE FOLLOWED !! PATIENTS ARE NOT AWARE OF ANY TESTING UNTIL THEY GET THIS HUGE BILL...HUGE EMPLOYEE TURNOVER RATE.
 






what do you mean. this is cutting edge technology. don't let the facts get in the way of making this product sucessful. History tells us this company will fold at moments notice with a whole bunch of people out of a job and the execs walking way with the money. can't these guys be trusted.
 






Patients are getting huge bills, but enrolled in the compassionate care program to avoid having to pay for a test that even they don't want. The only one who is really dumb enough to continue paying for this test is medicare!
 
























get lost there is no way to prove your lies unless they are tape recorder or e-mail documentation. I understand those that are paying are using cash. More VC is probably coming stay tuned or IPO.
 






The most amusing part of this thread is the FACT that there are multiple posts that have been deleted since the last time I read it. I think there is a little Matt Marshall, a little Sean McDonald, and/or a little Joe Flanagan who have been reading and have contacted cafepharma to delete posts. In all seriousness, what are they covering up and why are they requesting posts to be deleted? Where there is smoke, there is fire and this piece of trash is about to blow up.
 






Boom!!! more like a dud this close to the 4th of July. for those people that just started call the recruiter that set you up here and say you want to keep looking. I know it has worked in favor of a few that have started here and left quickly getting a bump in base with their next job. When you can work the man over take your shot.
 






you better believe corporate is watching. They sure don't want to be exposed to much. this company will have 0-12 reps by the end of the year. people are starting and quiting weeks after starting. If you are fooled into PTI employment you will find out why. For all those reps out there watch your back as a recruiter will be calling around to fill your position while you are still in it.
 






I am a cancer survivor, and the haters on this thread are wrong. My oncologist sees this test as another piece to the puzzle. It is not the end all and be all, but it can help.

Every patient is different, and will react differently to chemotherapy. So, I ask the haters on this board, "Why are all patients treated the same, when everyone reacts differently to chemotherapy?"

Something is broken in cancer therapy. Something needs to change. Oncologists have embraced some of the molecular markers available today, which helps with understanding the proteomic and genomic aspect of the cell, but does not provide enough information.

Oncologists must take into consideration the functional aspect of the cancer cell as well. And from my research, this is where ChemoFx plays a critical role.

I'm not quite sure about the tactics of sales reps that are described here. But it is more disheartening that more oncologists don't utilize this test. As I said, my oncologist is in favor of utilizing ChemoFx, and I'm proud to have him working with me. Cancer therapists should have an open mind with the new testing coming out.

I'm glad that my oncologist doesn't look at me as an experiment, and took the time to see if my chemotherapy would react with my tumor, instead of just using me as the test. My oncologist cares about me as an individual.

My two cents...
 






Your oncologist sounds like a good doctor but that doesn't make the information from this test any more valid. Don't confuse the emotions of "doing the right thing" and "trying to help my patient" with the reality that ChemoFx provides little to no proven clinical benefit - retrospective analysis where the patient's therapy is not guided by the test results is not enough. I respect your opinion of "it is more disheartening that more oncologists don't utilize this test" but I disagree with you completely.
 






I agree with the posting above. Your oncologists sounds like a good doctor, but is it fair for the taxpayers to keep incurring the costs of such tests that have been not proven to offer any real* survival data (exclude the bullshit studies Precision has)? I am talking real, level one data. I'm not just talking about Precision, all of these personalized diagnostics companies will eventually phases out, especially with the 2012 Presidential election being so heavily weighted on costs cutting to the medicare system. I predict that most of these companies will either lose their medicare coverage or at least have their reimbursement chopped significantly.
 






Anonymous said:
I am a cancer survivor, and the haters on this thread are wrong. My oncologist sees this test as another piece to the puzzle. It is not the end all and be all, but it can help.

Every patient is different, and will react differently to chemotherapy. So, I ask the haters on this board, "Why are all patients treated the same, when everyone reacts differently to chemotherapy?"

Something is broken in cancer therapy. Something needs to change. Oncologists have embraced some of the molecular markers available today, which helps with understanding the proteomic and genomic aspect of the cell, but does not provide enough information.

Oncologists must take into consideration the functional aspect of the cancer cell as well. And from my research, this is where ChemoFx plays a critical role.

I'm not quite sure about the tactics of sales reps that are described here. But it is more disheartening that more oncologists don't utilize this test. As I said, my oncologist is in favor of utilizing ChemoFx, and I'm proud to have him working with me. Cancer therapists should have an open mind with the new testing coming out.

I'm glad that my oncologist doesn't look at me as an experiment, and took the time to see if my chemotherapy would react with my tumor, instead of just using me as the test. My oncologist cares about me as an individual.

My two cents...
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It is great that you are a cancer survivor. Keep in mind that your surgeon is most likely the one that cured you and not your oncologist. chemo rarley cures anything. Your Oncologist is probably pretty liberal if he actual says he utilizes chemo FX. If he was put in front a panel of peers I have a feeling he would deny that he orders it and only gets it when surgeons send tissue off. You are exactley right that most patients are treated the same defined by their tumor type. Survival and patient care has increased tremendously since Oncologist have started treating patients based on tumor type. Your right that something needs to change and progress needs to be made again. I find it strange that you would use the terminology of proteomic and genomic make-up of a cell. It is strange being that this is common terminology of PTI reps who have no idea what these means. the Chemo FX test looks at neither of these aspects of a cell. The lab here has been questioned multiple times on what they are testing from physcians, and they continue to not answer the question. It sure is not protein in nature or directly looking at any genes. I believe this post is from a PTI rep and not a real cancer survivor. It is not sad however that more people do not utilize this test because the information is worthless. PTI is a prime example of a company trying to take advantage of cancer patients looking for hope. Chemo-sensitivity assay's have been proven to be invalid by multiple cancer organizations. There is no data to spupport their use. Patients do not have better outcomes or prolonged survival with these assay's. Your research should have lead you away from corrupt companies like these. The thing that is broke about cancer therapy is that medicare doesn't even realize they are paying for these test. Are you aware if this test was done in 45 other states the test would not be paid for. Since it is done in Pittsburgh, PTI has Highmark in there back pocket. Many other medicare sections will not pay for this test. just the medicare portion of Highmark. I am sure there is a little kickback action happening here. If you are a cancer survivor congratulations, If you are a PTI rep posing as a cancer survivor same on you.
 












WOW!

I can not believe the hate that is generated here.

I have done extensive research, in conjunction with other survivors, and we all feel that some form of functional testing needs to be done to identify those who chemotherapy will help, vs. not.

I fully understand why oncologists are looking at proteomic and genomic aspects of the cell. It makes sense, but to disregard the functional aspect is a huge mistake. If a cell has the ability to metabolize the chemo prior to it affecting the RNA and DNA synthesis, then the molecular information is useless.

Drug companies and oncologists have made money hand over fist, the past 20 years by demanding prospective randomized trials that take years and years to analyze, and million if not billions of dollars in taxpayer money. This is where the shame lies, not with those companies trying to find a better way. When one looks at a retrospective study, it is a better cross reference to the doctor's patient population, don't you think??

These tests, whether from ChemoFx, or a number of different companies, will help save the taxpayer money. Plus the patient should be getting a drug that we know is effective for them. The shame that this is not more available lies solely with ASCO, and their biased opinion of such information. These tests cost the taxpayer a minimal amount when compared to the treatments of patients with ineffective therapy, and we're not even considering the quality of life aspect. Chemotherapy is a monster, why not find a way to administer it only when it is found effective???

If you think that significant progress has been made over the past 20 years in cancer therapy, then you are a fool. The cancer industry is not interested in finding a cure, there is too much money to be made.

Thanks for the jabs, I kind of forgot where I was when I posted this. I hope you all will take a good look at yourselves in the mirror, before you judge. Google Greg Pawleski, and read up on his adventures and thoughts on this over the past 20 years. I think you might find it very interesting. He is just a man, who lost his wife, and knows why and how this industry has negatively affected the progress of finding a cure, and limiting chemotherapy in patients. He has been a big influence on me and my views of this industry over the past few years.

Good luck, and good health to all of you. I hope you never have to deal with this on a personal level, but if you do, I think your tone will change considerably.
 






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