Any info on Precision Therapeutics?

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How in the world have you defended this company with your post. You have posted opinions from yourself and others. You have every right to be wrong. Your passion is warranted and even if I don't agree with you I have to respect your opinion and passion. However you did not defend any of the so called lies and hate on this board. It is well known about paying lab techs to send out cases, the old preceptorship trick for refferals, and the lack of clinical data. Even if there are hundreds of studies on assay's in this field, Precision has none. Regardless of what you believe the fact holds true that more information is not always better if it is bad information like found in the chemo FX report. Just validate the test and have patients directed to therapy with the report and show how benificial it is than empiric therapy. It is hard to dispute the truth. 2+2=4. By preying on cancer patients and saying it is better than doing nothing is wrong. There is no efficacy data and to give highly toxic chemotherapy based on the report is scary. Most cancer patients dread the chemotherapy toxicity and hope it is working. It really sucks when they are sick and have long term health problems from a chemotherapy that did nothing for their tumor. Is doing nothing better than doing something wrong? I would say yes. Good luck in the end you are the one that has to look in the mirror every night. Just keep that resume up to date.
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OK, fine. *I'll play ONE more time. *

Link to SOME of PTI's clinical data: *http://www.chemofx.com/cancer-treatment/cancer-studiesbibliography.html

Link to SOME of the ongoing trials (not all inclusive): ***http://www.chemofx.com/cancer-treatment/drug-trials.html

So, your math is correct. *2+2, does in fact = 4 (Bravo)

It's a shame that some reps choose to compromise their principles chasing the all mighty dollar. *Not much can be done about that, except weed them out.

I live with the ongoing affects of chemotherapy. *So, I understand what you are saying from a deeply personal level.

I believe that PTI has found a better way, and has the data and initiative to back it up.

No worries about needing my resume anytime soon, since you seem so concerned. *Most nights when I look in the mirror, I feel quite satisfied with the work I've done fighting cancer. *Some days are tougher than others, and I've lost some close friends along the way, and undoubtedly will lose more. *But every day is a blessing in my world.

Quite frankly, I think you, and others on this thread who bash PTI, are stupid. I can beat cancer, I can't fix stupid. I wish I could help you. Sorry about that.

One last time: *Good luck, and good health to you.
 












Anonymous said:
How in the world have you defended this company with your post. You have posted opinions from yourself and others. You have every right to be wrong. Your passion is warranted and even if I don't agree with you I have to respect your opinion and passion. However you did not defend any of the so called lies and hate on this board. It is well known about paying lab techs to send out cases, the old preceptorship trick for refferals, and the lack of clinical data. Even if there are hundreds of studies on assay's in this field, Precision has none. Regardless of what you believe the fact holds true that more information is not always better if it is bad information like found in the chemo FX report. Just validate the test and have patients directed to therapy with the report and show how benificial it is than empiric therapy. It is hard to dispute the truth. 2+2=4. By preying on cancer patients and saying it is better than doing nothing is wrong. There is no efficacy data and to give highly toxic chemotherapy based on the report is scary. Most cancer patients dread the chemotherapy toxicity and hope it is working. It really sucks when they are sick and have long term health problems from a chemotherapy that did nothing for their tumor. Is doing nothing better than doing something wrong? I would say yes. Good luck in the end you are the one that has to look in the mirror every night. Just keep that resume up to date.
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Why do you say, "Even if there are hundreds of studies on assay's in this field, Precision has none." ????

You are obviously a bold faced liar with an axe to grind. I have watched this thread for a few days, and whomever this guy/gal is that obviously works for Precision, has owned you.

He/she is right. You are an idiot. Go do something productive and quit pretending that you care about cancer patients. You obviously have an agenda. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are what is wrong with this industry.
 






Anonymous said:
Why do you say, "Even if there are hundreds of studies on assay's in this field, Precision has none." ????

You are obviously a bold faced liar with an axe to grind. I have watched this thread for a few days, and whomever this guy/gal is that obviously works for Precision, has owned you.

He/she is right. You are an idiot. Go do something productive and quit pretending that you care about cancer patients. You obviously have an agenda. You should be ashamed of yourself. You are what is wrong with this industry.
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DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THIS LOSER. PROBABLY A CARIS TARGET NOW REP. HAVE YOU SEEN THESE GUYS??? BUNCH OF USED CAR SALESMEN. THE ONE THAT COVERS KC/ST. LOUIS, JOSH, IS THE WORST!!!

THEY'LL ALL BE OFF TO ANOTHER COMPANY WITHIN A YEAR, BUNCH OF JOB JUMPERS THAT ARE REALLY BAD FOR THE INDUSTRY.
 






Anonymous said:
OK, fine. *I'll play ONE more time. *

Link to SOME of PTI's clinical data: *http://www.chemofx.com/cancer-treatment/cancer-studiesbibliography.html

Link to SOME of the ongoing trials (not all inclusive): ***http://www.chemofx.com/cancer-treatment/drug-trials.html

So, your math is correct. *2+2, does in fact = 4 (Bravo)

It's a shame that some reps choose to compromise their principles chasing the all mighty dollar. *Not much can be done about that, except weed them out.

I live with the ongoing affects of chemotherapy. *So, I understand what you are saying from a deeply personal level.

I believe that PTI has found a better way, and has the data and initiative to back it up.

No worries about needing my resume anytime soon, since you seem so concerned. *Most nights when I look in the mirror, I feel quite satisfied with the work I've done fighting cancer. *Some days are tougher than others, and I've lost some close friends along the way, and undoubtedly will lose more. *But every day is a blessing in my world.

Quite frankly, I think you, and others on this thread who bash PTI, are stupid. I can beat cancer, I can't fix stupid. I wish I could help you. Sorry about that.

One last time: *Good luck, and good health to you.
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WOW! THAT JUST HAPPENED!!! NICELY DONE DM, IF THAT IS YOU!!!!!
 






WOW- you're going to talk about employee retention when SIX people from the 2010 President's club have left Precision recently. Correct me of I'm wrong, but aren't those supposed to be the happiest people at the company? The answer is yes. This company will continue to see outrageously high turnover because it's a joke. Last year a girl in the southeast who was making over $300k a year quit without having another job. Who does that??? CR in Florida was the latest to resign. I guess his involvement with genzyme hit a little too close to home at Precision.

So before you accuse someone else of being "car salesmen" take a good look at your salesforce and ask yourself why people are constantly leaving to take less money elsewhere in the middle of the worst economy in decades. Technology aside, there is definitely something very wrong going on there and it will only be a matter of time before it's unleashed. Thanks JF and CR for the idea.
 












Anonymous said:
WOW- you're going to talk about employee retention when SIX people from the 2010 President's club have left Precision recently. Correct me of I'm wrong, but aren't those supposed to be the happiest people at the company? The answer is yes. This company will continue to see outrageously high turnover because it's a joke. Last year a girl in the southeast who was making over $300k a year quit without having another job. Who does that??? CR in Florida was the latest to resign. I guess his involvement with genzyme hit a little too close to home at Precision.

So before you accuse someone else of being "car salesmen" take a good look at your salesforce and ask yourself why people are constantly leaving to take less money elsewhere in the middle of the worst economy in decades. Technology aside, there is definitely something very wrong going on there and it will only be a matter of time before it's unleashed. Thanks JF and CR for the idea.
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To each their own.* Everybody makes their own decisions.* Good luck to those that have moved on!* They obviously made a decision they thought was best for them and their family.

If there is crap going on like is described here, it will catch up to those who are doing it.* I believe in charma.

I don't believe what we do is all about the money. I can only worry about myself, my territory, and what I can control.* The previous rep in my territory was a greedy, selfish, and unethical prick, who takes great pride in preying on cancer patients. What he said to a group of his peers about cancer patients during training, is unimaginable to me. He is worse than a used car salesman, and the biggest slimebag walkiing.* I've offered many times to meet with him after he's left, but he's too chicken shit to face me. Charma's gonna get him, if I don't get him first.
 






Anonymous said:
WOW- you're going to talk about employee retention when SIX people from the 2010 President's club have left Precision recently. Correct me of I'm wrong, but aren't those supposed to be the happiest people at the company? The answer is yes. This company will continue to see outrageously high turnover because it's a joke. Last year a girl in the southeast who was making over $300k a year quit without having another job. Who does that??? CR in Florida was the latest to resign. I guess his involvement with genzyme hit a little too close to home at Precision.

So before you accuse someone else of being "car salesmen" take a good look at your salesforce and ask yourself why people are constantly leaving to take less money elsewhere in the middle of the worst economy in decades. Technology aside, there is definitely something very wrong going on there and it will only be a matter of time before it's unleashed. Thanks JF and CR for the idea.
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A girl?? I will bet she'd prefer the respect of being called a woman, or a young woman at least.

Who does this? I can only guess, because I don't know her. So, I will say maybe someone who has made a large amount of money over the past several years, was recently married to someone who can support them both, and she didn't want to deal with the stress anymore. Perhaps she would rather focus her energy on her family or personal interests. It certainly would be nice to be in a position to do this at early age if that is what you wanted to do.

I am sure there are many who read this that would jump at the chance to make that kind of bank. So, you are saying that a company that gave her the opportunity to make that kind of money, is a joke??? I say she, and many of which you speak were OVERPAID, and when the correction happened, they knew it was time to jump ship, because the days of making that kind of sick bank, (although nice for the rep), were over. They were probably under the delusion that they deserved to keep making that kind of jack, and thought they were irreplaceable. Happens in every company, NOBODY is irreplaceable.
 






It must be nice to live in a world of rainbows and unicorns like you. You said it yourself that you can only speak for your own territory- so don't assume that everyone holds the same ethical values as you, or is there for the same reasons as you. People who were there from 2006 - on know the real truth behind how Precision got where it is today. How the observational study was built on inducements by JF, how he encouraged his reps to cut specimens in two pieces or take benign tissue, how he tried to pay off histo techs to send specs, how he used preceptorships as kickbacks. How he runs a rep out of a territory, then has a letter written blamming the rep for any problems tnat occured during their tenure. The list goes on...

I don't believe that everyone there is unethical, just some people. In a company that small though it only takes a few. So I'll go back to "selling cars" and you can go back to defending Precision. A battle you'll never win!
 






First of all, to the pti defender. 1. What is with your use of* symbols? It's weird. 2. The young woman left because she married someone who could support her? As a woman, I take more offense at some douche comment like that over being called a girl. 3. I understand you've had cancer and feel like your work is your mission. You wan something profound and positive to come from a dark experience. Unfortunately, you've been misled and misguided. This compAny is a shit hole and try as you might to blind yourself to that, if you worked here, you know its true. TAke your pAssion and volunteer where it will really matter. You obviously have no clinical training to whatsoever 4. Oncologists don't use our test. Period. No excuses. No denying that.

To the Cdx dude: you have taken the biggest steaming piles of shit from our team and added them to yours so you can get off your high horse. That doesn't make you smart and won't mKe them ethical. Your assay is prob better then most in this space but get real, you'll be out when a big lca kind of lab copies your test and pushes you aside. You have some crazy smart folks there too but lots of your ppl are unhappy and looking for other jobs. I have a mutual friend from a surg co who knows lots of your big guns and they say the pay sucks among other problems.

We are none of us doing shit for cancer. We are not doctors nurses or important in any way. It's just a fucking job.
 






"I've offered many times to meet with him after he's left, but he's too chicken shit to face me. Charma's gonna get him, if I don't get him first."

Dude, the majority of specimens you are getting are coming from docs the previous rep brought on board. If you are such a magnanimous personality and purveyor of oncology knowledge, go out and do your damn job and bring home some more business. The guy who blames the previous rep quite frankly isn't good enough to cut it at PTI or anywhere for that matter
 






Anonymous said:
"I've offered many times to meet with him after he's left, but he's too chicken shit to face me. Charma's gonna get him, if I don't get him first."

Dude, the majority of specimens you are getting are coming from docs the previous rep brought on board. If you are such a magnanimous personality and purveyor of oncology knowledge, go out and do your damn job and bring home some more business. The guy who blames the previous rep quite frankly isn't good enough to cut it at PTI or anywhere for that matter
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100% wrong. That business is gone. None of the old was based on clinical value, all on favors for the scumbag rep. The business today is mine, and based on clinical value. Tough work, but worth it, and the business will be there if I leave, bc it's based on value for the patient.

My business is based on acceptance from oncology. Hard work, but a pretty simple concept. If you understand the clinical utility, can convey the message appropriately, and know the entire history of the CSRA, you can get buy-in from oncology. It's just a test, not the magic bullet.

There are no shortcuts, ladies.
 






Anonymous said:
First of all, to the pti defender. 1. What is with your use of* symbols? It's weird. 2. The young woman left because she married someone who could support her? As a woman, I take more offense at some douche comment like that over being called a girl. 3. I understand you've had cancer and feel like your work is your mission. You wan something profound and positive to come from a dark experience. Unfortunately, you've been misled and misguided. This compAny is a shit hole and try as you might to blind yourself to that, if you worked here, you know its true. TAke your pAssion and volunteer where it will really matter. You obviously have no clinical training to whatsoever 4. Oncologists don't use our test. Period. No excuses. No denying that.

We are none of us doing shit for cancer. We are not doctors nurses or important in any way. It's just a fucking job.
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Amy, you're an idiot.

1. I agree, when I copied and pasted in that quote, the * came up quite a few times. Weird for sure, can't explain it.

2. This is what I said: "So, I will say maybe someone who has made a large amount of money over the past several years, was recently married to someone who can support them both, and she didn't want to deal with the stress anymore." Perhaps, maybe, I don't know. What I do know is she could afford the luxury of leaving, b/c of the huge money she made at PTI. Hell, maybe she just decided to retire early. Good for her, I'm sure she made the decision that was best for her.

3. I fight cancer on many levels, personally and professionally. In fact, professionally was just the most recent addition to my battle. I work with many organizations, both locally and nationally. I have a very charitable heart. I've been trying to make a difference in the lives of cancer patients, since the moment I was diagnosed. You should try to get involved on a personal level, you'll see a different side to this fight.

You are correct, I don't do shit for cancer, I do shit for people to help them fight cancer. You might think what you do on a daily basis isn't important, but I know what I do is. To some of us it's not just a fucking job, you small minded bitch.

Now, go get back to selling for Pathworks. An interesting concept, but will never survive on it's own, the market isn't big enough. Pray you get sold before they kick you to the curb. Which is where you belong anyway, in my opinion.
 












Anonymous said:
You bring in like 20 specs a month... You're not as good as you think! Oh, and Josh marn owns you.
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I don't work for your company, but as a competitor I do follow threads on this board. Never posted before but have to stay that y'all need to take this thread to your management team because it is really obvious you all know who this guy is and he said some outrageous shit.

That said, I like the pit rep in my territory. We are competitors in some situations, but its always respectful and not like this nasty business above. Too bad.
 












Anonymous said:
I don't work for your company, but as a competitor I do follow threads on this board. Never posted before but have to stay that y'all need to take this thread to your management team because it is really obvious you all know who this guy is and he said some outrageous shit.

That said, I like the pit rep in my territory. We are competitors in some situations, but its always respectful and not like this nasty business above. Too bad.
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Take it to our management team??? hahahahhahaha.... They're probably the ones writing half of this shit! Thanks for visiting and thanks for the laugh pal. Come visit our board anytime.
 






Anonymous said:
You bring in like 20 specs a month... You're not as good as you think! Oh, and Josh marn owns you.
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Whoa. Slow down chief. That's an outright lie. He had a couple slower months, but without JM's business, he's already almost averaging what JM did the entire time he worked here, with only part of JM's territory. This guy has brought on 19 new docs, 9 of which are medical oncologists, and med oncs appear to be buying into his message. JM had 0 med oncs on board.

I know he's frustrated and not where he wants to be yet numbers wise, (41 specs and 114% of plan in May isn't too shabby though), but he's done a hell of a job building a solid business the right way, in a relatively short amount of time. I'll bet he'll surpass anything JM did in the 2nd half of this year. The most JM did was 51 last July, and it was obviously padded with favors b/c he was getting ready to quit.

You taking a shot like that is low, and completely untrue. I NEVER post here, but I think he needed defended. He's right, what JM has said about cancer patients is disgusting, and I understand his hatred of JM.

I think he's gone too far on this board, and needs to tone it down, and actually stay the hell away from here, but I have to admit, his passion is 2nd to none. He truly cares about the patient first.
 












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