Ammon Labs Charity Scam

[anonymous]

What Ammon is doing gives all labs a bad name. They are the same as Millenium & Bio-Diagnostic. Once the government catches us with Ammon, they will then investigate all the labs to see if they are doing anything illegal. It is an avalanche waiting to happen. If everyone in this industry would just wake up, not do illegal things to get work, bill within the guidelines and not up code, CMS would leave us all alone. It is pure greed that makes people like the Haupt's commit obvious AKS & Stark violations. Other labs can't sell and get business if the market is tilted by labs like Ammon. In the end the entire industry will suffer for the sins of a few!

 

[PharmaRep69]

Ammon just thinks they can put a couple of fancy titles on unqualified family members and workers and spend money on a professional looking website and that makes them legit and ethical. You can’t put makeup on a pig!

Just as the owners of the other labs previously believed until they got caught, the Haupts think they are invincible.

 

[anonymous]

I also agree but we can’t all worry about what Ammon is doing we just have to make sure our labs are doing the right thing and the. It won’t matter if anyone comes to inspect, or audit us.

 

[anonymous]

Ammon just thinks they can put a couple of fancy titles on unqualified family members and workers and spend money on a professional looking website and that makes them legit and ethical. You can’t put makeup on a pig!

Just as the owners of the other labs previously believed until they got caught, the Haupts think they are invincible.

 

[anonymous]

I also agree but we can’t all worry about what Ammon is doing we just have to make sure our labs are doing the right thing and the. It won’t matter if anyone comes to inspect, or audit us.

I’m sorry Mr. Manners what is the title of this thread?

 

[anonymous]

I also agree but we can’t all worry about what Ammon is doing we just have to make sure our labs are doing the right thing and the. It won’t matter if anyone comes to inspect, or audit us.

You obviously know nothing about audits/inspections. This is the government you are dealing with. If they want to find something they will. Then the lab has to appeal, while paying back money, until their appeal is heard. This can take 2-3 years to appeal.

Ammon is going to ruin the drug treatment market, like Millenium ruined the Pain Market. The Haupts do not care as they are pulling millions out of Ammon and buying houses, horses, cars, etc. They think they are shielded, but since the AKS is criminal they can go after them personally. Their employees are at risk too. Any person in billing sending in claims, the director of the lab, the two ASAM consultants, the people running the foundation, are all at risk. Steve, Evan and Andrew don't care and everyone else be damned. But when the sh*t hits the fan, they will all be ruined!

 

[anonymous]

Has anyone heard about how Ammon fired the ‘AVP of Clinical Billing’ and the CFO citing they were responsible for the defaults in the audit? Yet they used the ‘AVP’ in their corrective action plan. Once that was approved and settled they fired her. Is that because she wasn’t down for ‘billing’ the way the way the Haupts wanted anymore?

 

[anonymous]

Has anyone heard about how Ammon fired the ‘AVP of Clinical Billing’ and the CFO citing they were responsible for the defaults in the audit? Yet they used the ‘AVP’ in their corrective action plan. Once that was approved and settled they fired her. Is that because she wasn’t down for ‘billing’ the way the way the Haupts wanted anymore?

How about the email that went out to their clients saying the audit was ‘routine’ and that Medicaid has a new task force and Ammon was the first one they picked for an audit? Who comes up with this stuff? More importantly who believe this bs?

 

[anonymous]

How about the email that went out to their clients saying the audit was ‘routine’ and that Medicaid has a new task force and Ammon was the first one they picked for an audit? Who comes up with this stuff? More importantly who believe this bs?

How bout the upcoding to Tier 2 & 3 and the deceptive requisitons that tricked clients into ordering tests they did not want. It is all in the audit. Why didn't the State nail them on this? I know why, the Comptroller's office was under fire to get a win due to politics and took the $3.3m from Steve. Rumor from my contact is NJ then kicked the other issues they found up to the US DOJ and the investigation is ongoing!

 

[anonymous]

The only reason Ammon has to pay off clients is their lab sucks. I have had at least 10 clinical directors tell me they question Ammons results on a daily basis and they want to leave them but the CEO of the clinic won;t let them. The CEO's say they get so much from the foundation that it will cost them money to leave Ammon. This is the definition of a kickback.

 

[anonymous]

It's all questionable, but I'm sure there is an explanation.So if Kentucky contracts with Mako in the near future, will that suggest a kickback? Mako even posted the dollar amount on LinkedIn, which is beyond stupid. I wonder if anyone will question the 70k for the event over the weekend. You can't make this up - They actually posted it to LinkedIn. Gotta keep up with that "Influencer" status.

 

[anonymous]

Has anyone heard about how Ammon fired the ‘AVP of Clinical Billing’ and the CFO citing they were responsible for the defaults in the audit? Yet they used the ‘AVP’ in their corrective action plan. Once that was approved and settled they fired her. Is that because she wasn’t down for ‘billing’ the way the way the Haupts wanted anymore?

 

[anonymous]

It's all questionable, but I'm sure there is an explanation.So if Kentucky contracts with Mako in the near future, will that suggest a kickback? Mako even posted the dollar amount on LinkedIn, which is beyond stupid. I wonder if anyone will question the 70k for the event over the weekend. You can't make this up - They actually posted it to LinkedIn. Gotta keep up with that "Influencer" status.

Sponsoring an event is one thing, giving kickbacks is a whole different ballgame! Ammon actually provides classes to client patient's in the clients facility. They pay for CEUs for the clients counselors. They have relatives of their clients on the payroll of both the foundation and lab. It is all done through the foundation, under the cover of "philanthropy". Everything Ammon does besides the scholarships is a kickback. They also violated IRS rules by not having the foundation completely separated from the lab. There can be no intermingling of the non-profit and for-profit entities if federal health care dollars are involved. All the Ammon clients that think they are in the clear should look at Bio-Diagnostics. They will all end up in prison and pay massive fines. I gave a client of theirs the Ammon Foundation Year End Report that states Ammon Labs accounts for 83.5% of the funding to the Ammon Foundation. Ammon lies to their clients by telling them all the foundation money is from outside sources. What a fraud Ammon is!

 

[anonymous]

Anyone go to NJMHA? Ammon Labs & Ammon Foundation booths next to each other. Co-marketing together. Another IRS violation. Who was that janitor taking pictures of Ammon's booths? Investigator? Maybe/maybe not. Who's to say?

 

[anonymous]

What Ammon Labs and Ammon Foundation is doing for educational scholarships for people in recovery is wonderful. Same for their work with Police Departments. This doe not excuse everything else they are doing that is illegal and a kickback to medicaid & medicare providers. They need to stop all the AKS crap and concentrate on the legal things the foundation does or they are going to jail!

 

[anonymous]

Could it be someone at Ammon posted 1 sentence on multiple threads to try to bury this thread? Hmm, is that the sound of someone running scared? A breaking news story about Ammon just came across the website of Integrity House. Ammon gave another $50,000 to present at the golf outing. I am sure the Foundation will give about $25,000 as well. Kickbacks galore at the most shady lab in the world, Ammon!

 

[anonymous]

Could it be someone at Ammon posted 1 sentence on multiple threads to try to bury this thread? Hmm, is that the sound of someone running scared? A breaking news story about Ammon just came across the website of Integrity House. Ammon gave another $50,000 to present at the golf outing. I am sure the Foundation will give about $25,000 as well. Kickbacks galore at the most shady lab in the world, Ammon!

That would make sense of why the Haupts stopped posting on this thread! Either they trying to bury this thread or they are busy covering their a$$e$ with everything that is being exposed.

 

[anonymous]

That would make sense of why the Haupts stopped posting on this thread! Either they trying to bury this thread or they are busy covering their a$$e$ with everything that is being exposed.

Well said!

 

[anonymous]

The individual that keeps posting on this thread is just upset because they were let go. Listen, you couldn’t sell and you’re not as good as you think you are. Why don’t you worry about trying to get new business with the lab you’re currently with and stop being so upset with Ammon. We know who you are and you’re making yourself look really bad. Let it go!

 

[anonymous]

The individual that keeps posting on this thread is just upset because they were let go. Listen, you couldn’t sell and you’re not as good as you think you are. Why don’t you worry about trying to get new business with the lab you’re currently with and stop being so upset with Ammon. We know who you are and you’re making yourself look really bad. Let it go!

Ammon, keep posting your lies. I didn't work for you. You say the person you reference above couldn't sell. Well no one in your company can sell! You only get and keep business because of the foundation's kickbacks! There were rumors for years that Steve had a large supply of cash and white envelopes that found there way into the hands of multiple directors of current and past clients. This only worked on the unethical clients. Once these scumbags retired, died or were fired, Steve had to come up with the charity scam to make it seem more legitimate. It is not! Keep breaking the law. The State of NJ and Feds are making their case. Multiple Ammon clients are cooperating and they also got multiple Awad clients to cooperate as well. All cooperationg clients have been asked by the investigators not to leave Ammon as not to raise suspicion. I have issued proposals to over 15 Ammon clients who are cooperating. They told me when Ammon is shut down they want to be prepared for a seamless lab transition. So take your BS and peddle it to someone that doesn't know any better.